Relax, it's typical for this day. They're only wolf ticketsstygmah wrote:Just saw tickets at $1500 on ebay... It sucks to know this guys got and I didn't
Ooops, I doubled down...
Relax, it's typical for this day. They're only wolf ticketsstygmah wrote:Just saw tickets at $1500 on ebay... It sucks to know this guys got and I didn't
Hey, feel free to forward your "useless" tickets to this jackass. I'm resourceful like that...pixeltrance wrote:Got two tickets but no vehicle pass so yeah, left with two pretty useless tickets. Woohooo...
This is the way of the world for BM.melomel wrote:I really cannot wait until the Last minute sale and possibly not even STEP
Nothing missing or to misunderstand, there's just lots of people going after a limited resource. And every year since 2011 has been a de facto lottery, as explained on another thread. There is no true "first-come/first-served" ticketing system when tens of people hit the servers at literally the same millisecond. In that kind of a scenario, the software will basically assign each user a place in line randomly. And honestly even if it were possible to line everyone up in order by the millisecond, is there really a difference in effort from one millisecond to the next?melomel wrote:I feel like there's something missing or I don't understand something about tickets.
So in lottery years (aka this year and 2012) I was unable to get ticket in the main sale. Fine.
But I really cannot wait until the Last minute sale and possibly not even STEP to make sure I have a ticket. Last year I displayed art in Center Camp and the application for that closed in May I believe. I can't find a link to application for this year, so I don't know what the cut off is again this year, but I'll assume May again.
Realistically, I feel like an asshole applying to bring and show art when I don't even have a ticket and I can't arrange/make people depend on me for a ride without a ticket. Yes some aspects of prep take less time after going a few times, but the ride stuff is a new challenge each year especially w/ vehicle passes involved. I still have to have vacation time off of work, arrangements for taking care of pets, etc. as well.
Everyone says the tickets will appear, but I can't 100% sure believe it is true. The world of tickets today is not the world of tickets last year or the year before and for some of us introverts, even if we've been to BM multiple times, volunteered while at BM, contributed art, etc., some subculture/backdoor ways of getting things done doesn't work.
Yeah, coming to BM from another country and not having a vehicle pass makes those tickets completely useless as there is no way that we can get there without a camper. Going to wait to see if we can get a pass thru STEP otherwise will sell the tickets for as much $$$ as possible and then use the profit to spend our vacation elsewhere. Yes, I know that goes against the whole "spirit" but honestly, I'm so pissed about the fact that nowadays it isn't enough to have a ticket to get in. Instead, we are forced to buy two different types of tickets and one type is useless without the other.Jackass wrote:Hey, feel free to forward your "useless" tickets to this jackass. I'm resourceful like that...
Sounds like we have a deal then, but I will pay you no more than face on those tickets. Don't be a disgraceful type.pixeltrance wrote:Yeah, coming to BM from another country and not having a vehicle pass makes those tickets completely useless as there is no way that we can get there without a camper. Going to wait to see if we can get a pass thru STEP otherwise will sell the tickets for as much $$$ as possible and then use the profit to spend our vacation elsewhere. Yes, I know that goes against the whole "spirit" but honestly, I'm so pissed about the fact that nowadays it isn't enough to have a ticket to get in. Instead, we are forced to buy two different types of tickets and one type is useless without the other.Jackass wrote:Hey, feel free to forward your "useless" tickets to this jackass. I'm resourceful like that...
I mean, maybe I'm being presumptuous or adding more self importance, but I don't think I'm the only one that has these problems of wanting to contribute, but getting stuck in a loop of not wanting to put time into something and promise something I can't ensure I can follow through on and by finding out at the last minute I can go, I don't have time to contribute in the same way. I know people keep saying there's less art in the deep playa for example, and I can't help but to wonder some of these types of things are part of the reason why. Some of us actually do contribute even if we aren't officially part of a camp that result in ticket preference. There's many people I know that still only go to Burning Man to party and take, even after multiple years.vargaso wrote:
Nothing missing or to misunderstand, there's just lots of people going after a limited resource. And every year since 2011 has been a de facto lottery, as explained on another thread. There is no true "first-come/first-served" ticketing system when tens of people hit the servers at literally the same millisecond. In that kind of a scenario, the software will basically assign each user a place in line randomly. And honestly even if it were possible to line everyone up in order by the millisecond, is there really a difference in effort from one millisecond to the next?
So yeah, it sucks, I didn't get tickets in the main sale either, but like much of life, there's no meaning to it or blame to assign, it's just supply and demand.
Take it easy with all of that logic you got there, someone's gonna lose an eye. Besides, I believe I have a sale pending...Simon of the Playa wrote:sleep in a fucking tent and take the goddamn burner xpress in to the event.
problem fucking solved.
It's just a matter of huge numbers of people and an imperfect ticketing system... any meaning you derive is of your own design. Hopefully you'll keep making art no matter what. ((commiseratin' hug))melomel wrote:It feels like the universe is telling me to give up on this. Maybe it's time for me to listen.
Ahhhh... so bringing a tent, sleeping mats, shade structure, food and everything else you need to camp is something that you see a viable option for international travel? Especially considering the amount of regular stuff as well as food and water/drinks you need to bring.Simon of the Playa wrote:sleep in a fucking tent and take the goddamn burner xpress in to the event.
problem fucking solved.
Thats such fucking bullshit dude! There's lots of us coming from different countries and you should be happy you got two tickets, lots of people didn't! VPs do suck, but coming from abroad chances are you're pretty light weight compared to others, you probably don't have any big art work or theme camp or wtv, you just bring your own shit. As such you have a pretty easy mission to find someone to share a ride with, theres always plenty of posts about this. If this really is a major issue I don't think you want to go bad enough...pixeltrance wrote:Yeah, coming to BM from another country and not having a vehicle pass makes those tickets completely useless as there is no way that we can get there without a camper. Going to wait to see if we can get a pass thru STEP otherwise will sell the tickets for as much $$$ as possible and then use the profit to spend our vacation elsewhere. Yes, I know that goes against the whole "spirit" but honestly, I'm so pissed about the fact that nowadays it isn't enough to have a ticket to get in. Instead, we are forced to buy two different types of tickets and one type is useless without the other.Jackass wrote:Hey, feel free to forward your "useless" tickets to this jackass. I'm resourceful like that...
Actually I was coming from Barcelona and that was my planpixeltrance wrote:Ahhhh... so bringing a tent, sleeping mats, shade structure, food and everything else you need to camp is something that you see a viable option for international travel? Especially considering the amount of regular stuff as well as food and water/drinks you need to bring.Simon of the Playa wrote:sleep in a fucking tent and take the goddamn burner xpress in to the event.
problem fucking solved.
Yeah, right...
I guess when you live just around the corner of the event it's hard to imagine the logistics for someone coming from half a world away.
Yup, seen quite a few international burners do that. One guy from Australia had a motorcycle too, so he didn't even need a vehicle pass.stygmah wrote:Actually I was coming from Barcelona and that was my plan
This was obviously not the case...100ideas wrote:How the queue works is described in the tips for main sale post. Basically, everyone is assigned a random number. Those with low numbers get to purchase sooner. Not sure how numbers are given to customers that join the queue late or reload. Possibly they could be assigned a lower random number than others that have been waiting longer?
Timezone LaFontaine wrote: It's just a matter of huge numbers of people and an imperfect ticketing system... any meaning you derive is of your own design. Hopefully you'll keep making art no matter what. ((commiseratin' hug))
I dont think so, there was still a lot of people waiting to get to the ticket purchase page by the time I saw posts about this happening. There was a number of people who skipped past everyone waiting. That is, a bunch of friends are in line, one of them arrive late after the waiting room but hits the link anyway and gets to purchase tickets before his friends without ever being in line.trilobyte wrote:The waiting room/randomness thing only really applied to the front end of the sale. Once everyone got moved to the queue, the waiting room basically went away.
And once people started seeing or hearing about all tickets being in carts, a lot of people dropped out really quickly. I'd venture to say that in almost no time at all one would have been able to go in and access the sale (to see whether something was available or not).
BBadger wrote:Yup, seen quite a few international burners do that. One guy from Australia had a motorcycle too, so he didn't even need a vehicle pass.stygmah wrote:Actually I was coming from Barcelona and that was my plan