A visit to Fly Ranch (and a request for feedback!)

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A visit to Fly Ranch (and a request for feedback!)

Postby DrYes » Sun Sep 18, 2016 1:59 pm

I had the opportunity to visit Fly Ranch during the Burn this year, and put together an article on it with pics and video.

I'd love to hear your thoughts on what we could do with the ranch!

http://www.burn.life/blog/a-visit-to-bu ... -fly-ranch

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Re: A visit to Fly Ranch (and a request for feedback!)

Postby Jackass » Sun Sep 18, 2016 2:09 pm

Checking my spam and inbox now, but I don't believe I got an invite...

I must not be "influential" enough.

It's ok, members of the BRCCP are permitted to skinny dip there anytime we want... Larry said it's cool.
Sooner or later, it will get real strange...

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Re: A visit to Fly Ranch (and a request for feedback!)

Postby vargaso » Sun Sep 18, 2016 3:25 pm

Could be interesting if they turned it into a Burning Man version of an artists' retreat, where people or groups of people can either reserve or apply to stay for a week or two, with all the rules and freedom of Burning Man in place. Could result in lots of smaller burns. Over time, I can see different groups coalesce into more desirable events, for lots of different reasons, and I can definitely see people preferring these smaller burns over the big one. I think it would be different than regionals in that, assuming the Hualapi Flat could be used, the topography would more resemble Burning Man, and certain weeks would begin to draw artists and others from around the world.

I was initially against the purchase of Fly Ranch because it just seemed like another misguided effort to "spread burner culture," but if what I described is part of the plan, I think it could be very interesting.

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Re: A visit to Fly Ranch (and a request for feedback!)

Postby Token » Sun Sep 18, 2016 10:15 pm

$6.5 Million gifted by wealthy burners ...


So is that like giving big to your local election campaign or more of a lobbyist dropping off aluminum suitcases of sweaty money?

Kind of feels like when you forget your shirt-cocking and scratch your ass long and hard.

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Re: A visit to Fly Ranch (and a request for feedback!)

Postby Simon of the Playa » Mon Sep 19, 2016 4:05 am

bags of cash from Arcata covered in Resin...




oh wait, wrong wealthy burners...
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Re: A visit to Fly Ranch (and a request for feedback!)

Postby some seeing eye » Mon Sep 19, 2016 6:03 am

It is a remote spot. It's roughly 6 miles by 1.

The main challenge is to articulate a long term mission for the Burning Man Org and hope the August regional is not canceled because of a liability event.

They need to figure out how much electricity they can get up there, how much they can generate, whether they can use the geothermal. What the environmental constraints are. They need a paved runway somewhere. Just getting the depot legal with the county was a good step.

They already have a relationship with Esalen http://www.esalen.org/page/campus-map, and The Long Now kids. I'm voting for Esalen + Arcosanti + Djerassi. A think tank would be cool but that would complicate the finances.

Contributions have been running in the $1M/ year (2014) plus a free cash flow of $2M. To build out a conference center and housing would be far North of $100M and take more than 10 years. Esalen has operating expenses of about $15M, about $5M+- of it personnel expenses, so you would need a lot of people to pay to stay or do a conference at the Ranch to bring in $5, 10, 15M a year.

So the culture is going according to plan.

Fly ranch is in Washoe Co. But the flat lies with our BFF, Pershing Co. Ultimately it could revive Gerlach, slowly.

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Re: A visit to Fly Ranch (and a request for feedback!)

Postby Token » Mon Sep 19, 2016 7:11 am

SSE, is there a readable high-Rez or vector of that map anywhere? Can't read as is.

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Re: A visit to Fly Ranch (and a request for feedback!)

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Re: A visit to Fly Ranch (and a request for feedback!)

Postby some seeing eye » Mon Sep 19, 2016 7:45 am

I am not aware of a high res version.
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Re: A visit to Fly Ranch (and a request for feedback!)

Postby DrYes » Mon Sep 19, 2016 10:59 am

vargaso wrote:Could be interesting if they turned it into a Burning Man version of an artists' retreat, where people or groups of people can either reserve or apply to stay for a week or two.


I heard someone connected to the project (not officially speaking for the Org in any capacity, mind you) say something to the effect of, "Artist residency programs seem like a no-brainer." Completely agree with you and that person.

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Re: A visit to Fly Ranch (and a request for feedback!)

Postby vargaso » Mon Sep 19, 2016 1:13 pm

DrYes wrote:
vargaso wrote:Could be interesting if they turned it into a Burning Man version of an artists' retreat, where people or groups of people can either reserve or apply to stay for a week or two.


I heard someone connected to the project (not officially speaking for the Org in any capacity, mind you) say something to the effect of, "Artist residency programs seem like a no-brainer." Completely agree with you and that person.


Not just a retreat or residency, but an exhibition and event, like mini burns. Maybe reserve a percentage of spaces for artists and friends, and then some for the public. Year round burns. How cool would a burn on the Hualapi Flat be in Dec? Cold as fuck, but think of the all the ways artists and planners could deal with that?

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Re: A visit to Fly Ranch (and a request for feedback!)

Postby lucky420 » Mon Sep 19, 2016 1:41 pm

It's really quite a bit wetter over that way
Oh my god, it's HUGE!

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Re: A visit to Fly Ranch (and a request for feedback!)

Postby Traveller in Time » Mon Sep 19, 2016 1:50 pm

Does the Hualapi Flat not also flood with included transport limitations?
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Re: A visit to Fly Ranch (and a request for feedback!)

Postby vargaso » Mon Sep 19, 2016 3:06 pm

Traveller in Time wrote:Does the Hualapi Flat not also flood with included transport limitations?


Detail, details....

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Re: A visit to Fly Ranch (and a request for feedback!)

Postby WileE13 » Thu Sep 22, 2016 9:38 am

"I'd love to hear your thoughts on what we could do with the ranch!"

Raise cattle. Fence in the geyser and open it to the public.

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Re: A visit to Fly Ranch (and a request for feedback!)

Postby some seeing eye » Tue Oct 25, 2016 3:43 pm

You can sign up for email updates on the Fly Ranch Project. They sent out a mailing on their early gathering of ideas from the community with links to eplayan DrYes and others, more info and videos to come. If you happen to live in Washoe, might be good to follow.
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A visit to Fly Ranch

Postby some seeing eye » Mon Feb 20, 2017 1:50 pm

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Visit Fly Ranch

Postby some seeing eye » Sat Oct 07, 2017 1:29 pm

Burning Man Org and Friends of Black Rock - High Rock are partnering to offer 3 hour walks of Fly Ranch five Saturdays in October and November. No soaking though.

https://blackrockdesert.ticketleap.com/ ... ture-walk/

(If you sign up for the Fly Ranch emails, on https://flyranch.burningman.org/, you get occasional notes like this.)

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Re: Visit Fly Ranch

Postby Just_Joe » Sat Oct 07, 2017 3:05 pm

some seeing eye wrote:Burning Man Org and Friends of Black Rock - High Rock are partnering to offer 3 hour walks of Fly Ranch five Saturdays in October and November.


That's right!
My gang (Friends of Black Rock High Rock) are excited to be working with the Burning Man Project on this and look forward to having some great hikes. Join us for an afternoon!

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Re: A visit to Fly Ranch (and a request for feedback!)

Postby alt12 » Wed Oct 18, 2017 10:06 pm

Thanks for sharing this. I've been wondering what they've been up to with Fly Ranch. Sounds like not much currently. Frankly, a year-round intentional arts-spiritual-healing-thinktank community and retreat center that hosts events on a much smaller scale could be really interesting. But as always it comes down to economics and how it pays for itself.


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