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Dumb Question: WHERE is the map of all the placed camps on this site?

Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2019 4:42 pm
by asinglecandle
Am I retarded? Can't find it. Yes, I know the iBurn app will be updated soon but I would like to explore the map from home before I go. Anyone have the link?

Re: Dumb Question: WHERE is the map of all the placed camps on this site?

Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2019 5:05 pm
by gaminwench
The 'unofficial Burner Map' is the only source one can access prior to arriving at Greeters, where one is given the placement/Art map.

Not a dumb question, it just only 'sort of' exists as a burner voluntary addition map. (Thanks, burner who does this!)

Re: Dumb Question: WHERE is the map of all the placed camps on this site?

Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2019 6:26 pm
by some seeing eye
GW is correct.

Camps apply and many are listed by name-description, but not location on the Burning Man 2019 theme camp list - https://burningman.org/event/brc/2019-theme-camps/. Our BORG masters make the list hard to search.

Then Placement places many from that list and others not on the list and privately communicates their coordinates to the camp.

The camps may publish their location to unofficial lists from that private location as GW mentions.

Then the camps arrive on playa and check in with their BORG Placement placer. At that point they could be moved. That means what they sent to unofficial lists could be burnt toast.

Once every camp is actually placed Sunday gate, the internal BORG map is electronically updated to official. From my understanding that is what emergency services has. That would be about August 25.

Say camp Fancy Camp arrives and checks in with Placement on August 24. Fancy Camp: "Um, we requested 200' x 200' for 50 RVs and 200 people, so we got 100 DGS tickets, but we only have 3 people in tents because the dog ate our homework." Placement: "No problem, I'll call the other placers to fill in the space." So all of a sudden, camps get moved.

So there is not a real map until about August 25 or after.

After the event, the area is inspected for trash and the trash is logged on the official map of camps.

The BORG publishes a camp map with trash markings many months after the event.

So OP, your simple question is not as simple as you might think, unless you view it through the Alice in Wonderland looking glass. The system is designed for a measure of privacy on playa, flexibility, and with full transparency on trash left behind after the event.

Of course, I may be hallucinating, sure we have Placement on here...

Re: Dumb Question: WHERE is the map of all the placed camps on this site?

Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2019 7:01 pm
by Eric
some seeing eye wrote:
Sun Aug 11, 2019 6:26 pm
Of course, I may be hallucinating, sure we have Placement on here...
Not hallucinating - the only mostly accurate map* that will ever be seen by most of us is the MOOP map, which shows all the camps - but doesn't start getting released until mid-late Sept. However, even in the form we get to see it, it's not a searchable database, so you'd kind of have to know where you're looking.

I'd bet money that Placement, First Camp, and Emergency Services have maps, but the only one of those that I know does is Placement. Because they make them.


*This is Burning Man, I seriously doubt that anything is 100% accurate

Re: Dumb Question: WHERE is the map of all the placed camps on this site?

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 12:14 am
by jcliff
This is the "unofficial map" for theme camp placement. The creators aren't Borg affiliated, and the map is based on submissions. Useful for an idea of what's probably where.

2019 Unofficial Map of Black Rock City

Re: Dumb Question: WHERE is the map of all the placed camps on this site?

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 9:29 am
by Ano
If you figure out how to sneak into the back zone of staff camps (GPE, Rangers, etc) or have someone who can escort you back there, they have the same map that's used for the MOOP map posted. It's usually in an area you're not supposed to go, so, good luck!

Re: Dumb Question: WHERE is the map of all the placed camps on this site?

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 11:07 am
by Papa Bear
some seeing eye wrote:
Sun Aug 11, 2019 6:26 pm
Of course, I may be hallucinating, sure we have Placement on here...
We may, but just so there is no confusion, I'm not part of Placement. That's a totally different "Papa Bear".

(You may not have been referring to me, but since people are mixing us up more and more often the last few years, I'm being proactive.)