Cultural Course Correcting post by Marian Goodell

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Re: Cultural Course Correcting post by Marian Goodell

Post by wraith » Fri May 24, 2019 3:28 am

some seeing eye wrote:
Fri Apr 05, 2019 1:20 pm
Now for some humor... how do we punish bad burner behavior? Well the BRCCP would have them doing hard labor in the FIgjam Cooler and Lag Screw Anchor Factory to make them for Burners Without Borders, overhauling playafied bikes, sorting moop, working in the lost and found call center, cleaning up the highways after the event and working in the outbound recycling and repurposing center.
I mean, it's pretty simple. Invalidate their ticket, throw them out, and bar them from attendance. God knows there's enough various cops on site to enforce it.

A few people getting very publicly bounced mid-event will rapidly change attitudes, and if not, well caveat emptor.

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Re: Cultural Course Correcting post by Marian Goodell

Post by MyDearFriend » Fri Jul 05, 2019 1:58 pm

Papa Bear wrote:
Thu Feb 21, 2019 3:39 pm
This might be a case where the heading writer summarized a bit too much, since the detailed text could be read as indicating it'll only be for camps that choose to be listed. (Emphasis below is mine.)
Ratty wrote:
Thu Feb 21, 2019 11:29 am
This year the WhatWhereWhen printed guide will include a short, 100-character interactivity description for every placed and publicly listed Theme Camp and Village.
This needs more attention.

In my role as a long-time volunteer with EMS I have seen, year after year, the limited-distro, not-for-public-display maps of BRC that show many placed but unpublished camps; these camps are marked as such on the EMS maps, with instructions not to share this information. I have often studied the maps and wondered: Who are these secret camps? And how the fuck do they get PLACED in such prime spots when they are so OBVIOUSLY not participating in our community in an honest and open way?

Exactly what role do these secret camps play into our "corrected" culture???
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Re: Cultural Course Correcting post by Marian Goodell

Post by some seeing eye » Fri Jul 05, 2019 2:23 pm


I have been promoting anonymity as the 12th principle, after consent.

I'm friends of family of one of two startup students back when they were 2 minivans with a blue tarp between them. They camped near the Oregon Country Fair camp which had the only Internet connection. Once they were successful, we could never meet at their camp per their security advisors.

All of our security EIS nonsense is because individuals are not sufficiently anonymous and anonymously located.

I'm also close with the Tuna Guys. Very humble and fun working people who would be overwhelmed with visitors beyond their community. The BORG understands that.

I always thought that the event would end with a liability event, a tragic death with litigious family, or a wildfire in the camping areas, but now I'm more concerned about it being destroyed by celebrity or government VIP security, noted in some of my posts.

I'm awed by all the infrastructure camps. ESD has responded to life emergencies I found, and graciously treated me for electrolyte depletion. But there is a good argument that it would be a distraction to have people finding and wandering into infrastructure camps asking for a job, distracting them or disrupting their recharging.

All in my opinion, of course.
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Re: Cultural Course Correcting post by Marian Goodell

Post by Ratty » Fri Jul 05, 2019 2:56 pm

Tiger Man Camp is placed but not publicly listed. Our gifts are scheduled with the placement team but not published. There are only 4 or 5 of us. We will install 50 or so foam and fur seat covers this year. We'll adjust your seat height, check the tires, tighten the chain if necessary and fix your butt. We have about 200 or 300 hats to gift. All styles. A dozen pockets to hang on your belt. Three dozen laminated decoupage art pieces to be set up in an impromptu gallery. And the list goes on. We do it anytime some one is in camp. We interact and gift. People are happy. We don't have a specific schedule but we work at it till everything is gone.

This is just one weird reason not to be listed. I'm sure there are others.
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