Environmental Crisis: The Sky is Falling!

[cowboyangel]

Hey Isotopia a real environmental disaster would be the hoops in your skirt missaligning.............

[AuldAne]

The rest of the page is a bunch of technical stuff that I don't have the science to judge whether it's valid or not.

(referring to the john daly site) I don't understand most of it either, but I am capable of parsing graphs. I'm a bit suspicious of some of the ones on here. For example, if you track to the "'Global Mean Temperature' - Disputed Data" near the bottom, he says this graph
, which shows a .8 temp increase, is contradicted by this one
.

First noticing that the Y scale differs between the two, drawing a rough best-fit line on each actually seems to more or less show an increase of .6 < x < .9 on each, though admittedly it's harder to see this on the US graph because of the 1930-40 bulge and because he flattened the scale, which is itself suspicious. Of course, as far as I can tell he never bothers to exlain the meaning of the Y axis on any of his graphs, including if you follow links, so it's hard to say what the significance is. At least a few of his other graphs suffer similar problems.

Of course, none of this means he's wrong, just that his work probably hasn't been well-reviewed.

[Ranger Genius]

KellY: that was the point I was making about Leavitt, actually. There's a big gravel pit right alongside the freeway in north SLC, across the street from three oil refineries, in what used to be lovely foothills. I always remark as I go past: "This eyesore brought to you by thirty years of republican leadership."

The right trees are the ones that move use towards cleaner, renewable energy sources. And the ones that are logical and pragmatic, rather than the ones that evoke the most emotional response (example: new york trying to ban manufacture of PVC due to dioxin release, whereas home fireplaces actually release much more into the environment anually.) We just take the wrong approach. More later, lunch is over.