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Rian Jackson · Post by **Rian Jackson** » Wed Feb 09, 2005 2:35 pm

who was saying anything about bonobos having sexual practices that correlate to ours, necessarily?

it's just shit that i remember from an anthro video.

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Wed Feb 09, 2005 2:36 pm

stuart wrote:it takes near zero studying to determine that. I believe we are the only primates to disguise ovulation. As a result, it would be dangerous to make any claims about our natural sexual practices based on bonobos.

Point taken. And I do try to be careful about the whole "evolutionary psychiatry" thing, because a lot of people seem to find in it the same thing there grandparents found in the bible. That being said, I think that there is possible light to be shed on human evolution by looking at relatives. Just be careful of solid conclusions.

stuart · Post by **stuart** » Wed Feb 09, 2005 2:37 pm

no one

but in the present context of taking great logical leaps wrt primates and us I thought I would pre-emptively strike. It is the (united states of) american way after all.

Rian Jackson · Post by **Rian Jackson** » Wed Feb 09, 2005 2:40 pm

stuart wrote:no one

but in the present context of taking great logical leaps wrt primates and us I thought I would pre-emptively strike. It is the (united states of) american way after all.

well, now that THAT"S sorted out.

they still have a lot of social sex.

and the eplaya is one place where ovulation is rarely disguised...

(remembering GS wearing out the beau last time...)

stuart · Post by **stuart** » Wed Feb 09, 2005 2:42 pm

possible light to be shed on human evolution by looking at relatives

absolutely. It can be a bit of a rorshach test, like the bible, without careful scrutiny. I think the best way to try and figure out what is 'natural' behavior for us is to study very primitive indigenous peoples. However, even in those cases the cultural differences can be staggering. Pretty impressive in it's own right though. Too bad there aren't very many left.

stuart · Post by **stuart** » Wed Feb 09, 2005 2:43 pm

the eplaya is one place where not much of anything is disguised. Well, except for one's identity.

Donita · Post by **Donita** » Thu Feb 10, 2005 6:55 pm

Monkeys/Lemurs in the Vegan Cafe! Oh, happy happy joy joy!

gigglesnort · Post by **gigglesnort** » Fri Feb 11, 2005 7:14 am

(remembering GS wearing out the beau last time...)

:blush:

Donita · Post by **Donita** » Mon Feb 14, 2005 6:30 pm

OK, somebody said to eat what your body is craving, so... Last night I was craving Pizza with lots of cheese. And I was looking in the fridge for things to throw on top of the pizza. It ended up with chopped portabello mushrooms, asparagus, brussel sprouts, black olives, fresh tomatoes and 3 kinds of cheese. It....was...heavenly....

Donita · Post by **Donita** » Mon Feb 14, 2005 6:47 pm

Now I am craving a spinach & feta cheese & refried bean burrito...

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Wed Feb 16, 2005 10:30 am

Interesting article about trying to complie with FDA dietary guidelines.
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f ... B8THQ1.DTL

Martiansky · Post by **Martiansky** » Sat Feb 19, 2005 4:14 pm

Has anyone ever grown their own sprouts while they were out on the Playa? I thought a mini greenhouse for growing sprouts might be cool.

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Wed Feb 23, 2005 10:59 am

stuart wrote:do bonobos disguise ovulation as humans do?

Further reading indicates that they advertise in much the same way as chimps.

However, a lot of primate speicies do hide ovulation as well as we do or don't advertise as prominently as chimps and bonobos. There is no easy corrolation between mating systems and prominance of ovulation advertising.

ravenna · Post by **ravenna** » Fri Jun 10, 2005 11:53 am

Do you have any advice for a first timer vegan -- what works best to bring for the week? Thanks!

Ranger Genius · Post by **Ranger Genius** » Fri Jun 10, 2005 12:48 pm

Geek reference:

I saw

stuart wrote:Do bonobos disguise ovulation as humans do?

And read it as

Genius thought stuart wrote:Do Chocobos disguise ovulation as humans do?

WTF?

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Fri Jun 10, 2005 12:58 pm

Genius
Call 911 for the ambulance. Then lie down in a dark room with a washcloth on your forhead until they come.

NOW!

joel the ornery · Post by **joel the ornery** » Fri Jun 10, 2005 3:05 pm

ravenna wrote:Do you have any advice for a first timer vegan -- what works best to bring for the week? Thanks!

I like a little garnish with my roasted vegan.

philosopher · Post by **philosopher** » Wed Jun 15, 2005 9:55 pm

ravenna wrote:Do you have any advice for a first timer vegan -- what works best to bring for the week?

First, I'd say think about bringing a cooler or two per person. (I freeze a lot of bottled water and then add sealed food items and ice around that.) I've had good luck with fresh veggies that keep if you wash them and that you can eat raw, like celery, carrots, radishes, etc. If you bring leafy salad greens, figure on eating them early and eat the more durable stuff later. I like the various tofurkey products, which give you all the protein you can stand and are ready anytime you are. Pre-packaged pressed tofu also worked well for me.

I found I didn't eat too much of the canned vegetables I brought, but the ones I did eat I set out in the afternoon sun and had hot. I also did that with some canned ready-to-eat things I got at the Asian grocery store.

One year I made some gourmet vegetarian Chinese soups for a crowd when the Post Office was a real camp and had big kitchen thing going. If you're able to manage soup, it is great on a cool playa night because you get both warmth and that all-important fluid. And if you use sea salt, you even replace some lost minerals enjoyably. (Sports drinks mostly don't do that well enough--too limited inventory of minerals.)

The advice to first-timers about the tendency to bring too much food bears repeating. One does seem to eat less when there is so much eye candy to consume.

DoctorIknow · Post by **DoctorIknow** » Fri Jun 24, 2005 10:30 pm

ravenna wrote:Do you have any advice for a first timer vegan -- what works best to bring for the week? Thanks!

I pack fresh for the first couple of days, then it's pretty much Tasty Bites, crackers, rice cakes, a couple of vegan power bars for sweet treat. I find food is pretty low on my priorities there, and I eat much less than any other time of the year, and would be sad to lose my Tasty Bites.

They make many vegan meals, and even more vegetarian with dairy. (Pretty good deals on website, free shipping, bulk discount...)

http://www.tastybite.com/

Climbers love them, too. Found this comment on a rock climbers blog:

"TastyBites Indian food (can eat straight out of pouch with no heating or adding water). It's not as good as fresh stuff obviously, but it's pretty awesome for camping/climbing palate. Think they were actually designed as MREs (meals ready to eat) for Indian military."

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