Fuck!

[LeChatNoir]

Fuck Brain ick.

[gyre]

Red, I've had people in pain before.

I'd like to know the best way for others to deal with it.

Is there a right response?

[OregonRed]

gyre~I don't know about a "right" response. Just knowing that I have the support of my friends is usually enough.

And on to more fucked up shit... TheCO and I just got home from our evening of craziness to a friend of ours hiding in the yard. Said friend has gone completely off the deep end over the last few years, he's homeless, and he wants to go to the Burn (he's been once before). We told him we didn't think it was a good idea.

All I hear when he speaks is the crazy... No sign of the friend I've known for almost thirty years. It's really heartbreaking. And not a fucking thing I can do.


FUCK.

Tomorrow needs to be better than today.

[The CO]

Fuckin a it does.

[The CO]

Fuck Brain ick.

Stealing.

[ygmir]

FUCK OR and CO.........that friend situation......I know the feeling.
and, the helpless feeling seeing someone dissolve...........sometimes, one might think of them as a rabid dog........sometimes, not so much.
Dang, sorry though.

[unjonharley]

FUCK OR and CO.........that friend situation......I know the feeling.
and, the helpless feeling seeing someone dissolve...........sometimes, one might think of them as a rabid dog........sometimes, not so much.
Dang, sorry though.

CO&OR, It comes from living down there in the flats.. I'm much saner after moving out to these south hills.. Fuck, I have a couple of homeless and crazy friends that live on the streets of Salem.. My heart go's out to them.. There just is nothing I can do for them..Just writing this makes me feel sad about my friends..

[OregonRed]

CO&OR, It comes from living down there in the flats.. I'm much saner after moving out to these south hills.. Fuck, I have a couple of homeless and crazy friends that live on the streets of Salem.. My heart go's out to them.. There just is nothing I can do for them..Just writing this makes me feel sad about my friends..

I grew up in the hills of South Salem, which is where I met my friend (when I was in the 7th grade at Judson Middle school). It wouldn't matter what part of town I lived in, if he needs a friend, he shows up at my house. It's been that way since we lived on our own. But over the last three or four years I've watched his grip on reality get more and more tenuous. He shows up far more sporadically these days and when he does, he's often in this bizarre state of "almost". He's almost okay, he's almost making sense, he's almost got a grip on reality. He's still eating and bathing (when he can), but he's so manic that I am actually a little frightened by him. This, of course, leaves me feeling guilty, but I don't want to encourage him to hang around. He's been arrested a few times in the last three years for violent behavior (he never had a tendency toward violence until recently) and I'm not comfortable with him being around my daughter.

Fuck. I feel like a shitty friend. I wish I knew how to help him effectively.

[BAS]

CO&OR, It comes from living down there in the flats.. I'm much saner after moving out to these south hills.. Fuck, I have a couple of homeless and crazy friends that live on the streets of Salem.. My heart go's out to them.. There just is nothing I can do for them..Just writing this makes me feel sad about my friends..

I grew up in the hills of South Salem, which is where I met my friend (when I was in the 7th grade at Judson Middle school). It wouldn't matter what part of town I lived in, if he needs a friend, he shows up at my house. It's been that way since we lived on our own. But over the last three or four years I've watched his grip on reality get more and more tenuous. He shows up far more sporadically these days and when he does, he's often in this bizarre state of "almost". He's almost okay, he's almost making sense, he's almost got a grip on reality. He's still eating and bathing (when he can), but he's so manic that I am actually a little frightened by him. This, of course, leaves me feeling guilty, but I don't want to encourage him to hang around. He's been arrested a few times in the last three years for violent behavior (he never had a tendency toward violence until recently) and I'm not comfortable with him being around my daughter.

Fuck. I feel like a shitty friend. I wish I knew how to help him effectively.

That situation sucks, but I really don't know what you can do-- you do have to be concerned with your daughter and your own safety.

Here's hoping it somehow works out.

oh, and fuck.

[maryanimal]

Fuck fuck fuck! My knee is not doing well. It's not doing well right now. It's swollen and very painful. It feels like its going tk blow out any day now. And I'll be leaving for the playa on the 25th. I have a doctors appointment on the 24th. Nothing will keep me from going!! I'll buy a fucking knee brace and see if anyone will give me fucking piggy back rides. LOL

[ygmir]

Fuck MA.............take care, folks can and will help, and, there are camps for folks with injuries that can help getting around.

[maryanimal]

Thanks for the info yggy. I'm going to buy a knee support. Maybe that would help too!

[Mojojita]

Fuck - I'm so sorry OR! Take the good drugs until it lets up some. Make the bad days floaters.

[theCryptofishist]

Fuck. I feel like a shitty friend. I wish I knew how to help him effectively.[/color]

Fuck, you are doing your best, and without a lot of societal support. Just think of all the fucking money we're saving by releasing the seriously mentally ill into the community to be taken care of as outpatients.

[BAS]

Fuck. I feel like a shitty friend. I wish I knew how to help him effectively.[/color]

Fuck, you are doing your best, and without a lot of societal support. Just think of all the fucking money we're saving by releasing the seriously mentally ill into the community to be taken care of as outpatients.

That was a Reagan innovation, wasn't it? THANK you Mr. Reagan. (Ooops. Misspoke. I meant FUCK you, Mr. Reagan!)


And a minor "fuck"-- the last post in the determining your porno name thread is more Russian language spam. I can't even READ the damn thing! Why are they spamming an English language board, anyway?!

[ygmir]

Fuck. I feel like a shitty friend. I wish I knew how to help him effectively.[/color]

Fuck, you are doing your best, and without a lot of societal support. Just think of all the fucking money we're saving by releasing the seriously mentally ill into the community to be taken care of as outpatients.

That was a Reagan innovation, wasn't it? THANK you Mr. Reagan. (Ooops. Misspoke. I meant FUCK you, Mr. Reagan!)


And a minor "fuck"-- the last post in the determining your porno name thread is more Russian language spam. I can't even READ the damn thing! Why are they spamming an English language board, anyway?!

you may well find, it was fucking Jimmy Carters

[BAS]

Fuck, you are doing your best, and without a lot of societal support. Just think of all the fucking money we're saving by releasing the seriously mentally ill into the community to be taken care of as outpatients.

That was a Reagan innovation, wasn't it? THANK you Mr. Reagan. (Ooops. Misspoke. I meant FUCK you, Mr. Reagan!)


And a minor "fuck"-- the last post in the determining your porno name thread is more Russian language spam. I can't even READ the damn thing! Why are they spamming an English language board, anyway?!

you may well find, it was fucking Jimmy Carters

I believe it started in Carter's, but it was Reagan who cut the funding for the local governments to do outpatient counseling, now that I have thought about it.

[OregonRed]

I am honestly okay with "earning the Burn" but I'm just not sure I can deal with any more bad fucking news.

Got a call from the fucking insurance company, apparently my surgery is only covered if I get it done during the school year, regardless of the status of my enrollment. So now, not only do I have to reschedule the surgery that is supposed to stop my "time of the month" from being one of the most painful, torturous things I've ever dealt with, I now have to reschedule said surgery during the school term, which is what I was trying to avoid in the first place.

Fuck.

While I was on the phone dealing with the fucking insurance people, TheCO received an email from the mortgage company telling him that although they had offered to put us on a program that would lower our mortgage payments and help us get caught up with our payments, that we don't actually qualify for that fucking program and that we need to pay them all that we owe them by August 29 or they'll sell our home out from under us. As we're both committed to working at the Burn, we cannot simply back out of going to TTITD without letting a lot of people down, so we've basically got five fucking business days to get this shit taken care of.

Double fuck.

[The CO]

I'm meeting with fuckin lawyers on Monday. I'm meeting with others that can help our fucked situation today. & I know that there is no sale date registered with the courts, so the 29th is a fucking scare tactic from what I can tell.

There's nothing quite so disheartening as saying "yes, I can afford that payment every month" and have the answer be "then that payment is not an option.

Fuckers!

[FIGJAM]

Stay calm.

If your situation is like most people's in this economy, it is indeed a scare tactic.

They don't want your house.

If your mortgage got sold in all the S&L bullshit, chances are they don't even have the original note, which puts them on very shakey legal ground.

You have a lot of options.

Good luck.

[Elderberry]

Yup; they're all on the hot seat right now because of all of the "signing mills" actually forging signatures on supposedly "original" documents which are long gone because they thought that actually maintaining and keeping the original paper documents was too much of an impediment to making quick electronic deals required to make the quick big bucks. So I'd say that with a smart real estate attorney the mortgage holder will more likely find themselves in quicksand. Hang firm and get good legal counsel from a specialist.

Stay calm.

If your situation is like most people's in this economy, it is indeed a scare tactic.

They don't want your house.

If your mortgage got sold in all the S&L bullshit, chances are they don't even have the original note, which puts them on very shakey legal ground.

You have a lot of options.

Good luck.

[The CO]

Oh, I'm calm, just fuckin' annoyed. Been dealing with this for quite some time now. I also qualified for a program that would have been paying my full mortgage payment for a year starting back in Feb/Mar, but the lender chose not to participate in it. The renegotiation in lack of good faith bugs me.

First thing I did was get ahold of a retired private detective I know, who confirmed that there currently is no sale date set. So they have to file that, and then give us X amount of days(I want to say 90) and inform us by process server and all that fuck. Second thing I did was contact Legal Aid & an attorney that specializes in this kind of thing.

Just not keen on departing for BRC with unknowns like this, so I'm working on making them knowns. And at this point, if I can screw over the mortgage company in any way, I like that idea.

*added edit* Oh yeah, this is the third lender we've had since we bought, and we've never changed, they keep getting bought out. All of the paperwork in the courts & with the county clerk lists the mortgage holder as a company that doesn't exist any more. That means they are not updating the paperwork correctly, which Oregon has laws about & as of a couple months ago (Mcvoy v. BNC Mortgage/MERS) district court precedent saying they cannot foreclose in those circumstances. We'll see where that goes.

[OregonRed]

Thanks, Figgy. It's just the timing of everything. We thought we had this mortgage shit taken care of and the fuckers change their mind. We know we have some legal recourse, it's just going to be rushed.

The surgery thing is frustrating and disheartening. I've been in pain that's gotten progressively worse for the last eighteen months and there was finally a light at the end of the fucking tunnel. Now, there's no light. No date which I can put into my brain and say "I just need to deal with this for this much longer".

I'm trying to stay strong and remember that life happens this way and it's my job to work it out.

Fuck.

[FIGJAM]

There are cases where the loan company couldn't find the records so had no legal rights to the property.

Some people have gotten out of 100s k of payments.

Ask them for copies of the original documents, it's your right, then watch them squirm.

It will at least buy you several months to prep for war while they hoplessly search.

Tramadol is the only thing that helps with my pain.

[theCryptofishist]

It will at least buy you several months to prep for war while they hoplessly search.

Ah, like P, G and fucking E and their pipeline records.

[Eric]

Fuck OR & CO. I wish I could do more than send good thoughts your way.

Figjams right- ask for copies of the originals. It will definitely slow them down.

[BAS]

OR & CO-- here's hoping that you come out on top and the loan company is the one to get fucked.


I wish I could do more than send my best wishes your way, OR. There isn't any good reason that you have to wait until after BM and after school starts to get the surgery. I'd say that the health care system in this country is all fucked up, except for the fact we don't have one: We've got a health care mess.

Good luck to you folks.

[maryanimal]

It's 12:30 am and I'm in a lot of pain. My left leg from my hip to my knee (the one that has been bothering me) is hurting so bad, I'm in tears. Muscles in the leg are so sore and just ache...I can't go to the ER because I can't afford it. At this point I can barely bend my knee. I feel truly alone at this very moment. I'd have to drive myself to the hospital. It hurts so fucking bad!! Funny (ironic) thing is from below my knee down It'd fine...FUCK!!!!

[Elderberry]

Fuck. Don't they have a county hospital you can go to? What is causing the pain? Is it something that has been previously diagnosed?

[ygmir]

fuck, MA!!!
seems going to the ER is your only choice, if it doesn't get better........and, they treat, regardless of ability to pay, IIRC, especially if you're in a lot of pain.
well, just tell 'em what you can afford (10 bucks/month) and go from there?
Dang.
Did you injure yourself?
Sometimes, things like that can be from your back.