Donna Matrix's Bible Trivia Question O' the Day !!!

thisisthatwhichis · Post by **thisisthatwhichis** » Tue Jan 01, 2008 1:46 pm

Wholly Crap, Eri2000...... What if you accidently wash your jeans with that long list in your pocket???

Shit... I'd haveta start all over................

DVD Burner · Post by **DVD Burner** » Tue Jan 01, 2008 1:48 pm

I cant believe this thread has lasted 8 pages.

BitterDan · Post by **BitterDan** » Tue Jan 01, 2008 1:55 pm

8 months til the burn, we have to find some way to pacify.

oneeyeddick · Post by **oneeyeddick** » Tue Jan 01, 2008 2:24 pm

Donna Matrix wrote:
You are not asking correctly... I think this was Paul yet again. Paul is not Jesus. The Lord = Jesus.... and Paul said a lot of things that Jesus didn't say.

Personally if there is some disagreement or controversy I just stick to what Jesus said. First four gospels.

In this case, Jesus is clear. Following men will not get one into heaven. So, D.

Good Answer, Donna and Dana.

What is the Lordâ€™s opinion of those who, after critical analysis, opt for a belief structure other than Christianity?

Correct Answer: D (All of the above.) â€œFor many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichristâ€

oneeyeddick · Post by **oneeyeddick** » Tue Jan 01, 2008 2:38 pm

Alrighty then.........

Since we are all feeling intelligent, smart and wise here,

How does the Bible define â€œwisdomâ€

Simon of the Playa · Post by **Simon of the Playa** » Tue Jan 01, 2008 2:46 pm

dont bother jizzin' your pearl necklace on the face of a swine or something like that....

oneeyeddick · Post by **oneeyeddick** » Tue Jan 01, 2008 3:09 pm

Leviticus 18:23 (King James Version)

Neither shalt thou lie with any beast to defile thyself therewith:
neither shall any woman stand before a beast to lie down thereto:
it is confusion.

and I think when they said confusion they meant perverse.

Simon of the Playa · Post by **Simon of the Playa** » Tue Jan 01, 2008 3:21 pm

dude, does that include WHALING?

sweeeeeeeeet....

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Tue Jan 01, 2008 4:11 pm

BitterDan wrote:
or if there isn't a who then how did all these things come into existence.
Random, careless chance and change.

Just remember that the chance may have been random, but there was a constant selection process that kept the best examples going.

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Tue Jan 01, 2008 4:16 pm

oneeyeddick wrote:OK, that was interesting, let's stick with the vein we are in.

What is the Lordâ€™s opinion of those who, after critical analysis, opt for a belief structure other than Christianity?

A. They are all anti-Christs!
B. They are evil and will be destroyed by God.
C. They are people you shouldnâ€™t associate with â€“ donâ€™t even invite them into your home.
D. All of the above.

Always go with All of the Above, alhtough A seems a little shaky.

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Tue Jan 01, 2008 4:20 pm

Nick Collide wrote:
oneeyeddick wrote:You should all be ashamed of yourselves.

I can't believe nobody got this one...Fishy was close, but the word
(and concept) of science is in the New Teastament.

Perhaps Fishy was thinking of the scientific method - which did come much later.

Hey! I was at least 3/4 right! Science: The word "science" came from the Latin word for knowledge: scientia. From the 1200's to until the 1840's science was known as natural philosophy.

the fire elf · Post by **the fire elf** » Tue Jan 01, 2008 4:30 pm

Donna Matrix wrote: Personally if there is some disagreement or controversy I just stick to what Jesus said. First four gospels.

In this case, Jesus is clear. Following men will not get one into heaven.

nay, fair bible student...

the veil of knowledge and mystery cloaks that figure throughly

most of what you could stick to is what someone else said of sayings

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Tue Jan 01, 2008 4:36 pm

My guess:

oneeyeddick wrote: C. Wisdom means being afraid of God.

dana · Post by **dana** » Tue Jan 01, 2008 4:51 pm

DVD Burner wrote:I cant believe this thread has lasted 8 pages.

Actually I think it has good "traction".
The bible is actually quite a wacky and entertaining piece of popular culture.
Oneye is quite entertaining, especially with the new avatar.
Donna is quite the peculiar character - studying a bible based law school online!

back to the quiz....
I'll take C for a thousand Bob.

Its a trick question. The bible implies you should try to gain wisdom, but the more you know - the more you should be afraid.

Then the serpent said to the woman, "You will surely not die. For god knows that in the day you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like god, knowing good and evil."
So when the woman saw that the tree was good for food,... and a tree desirable to make one wise, she took of its fruit and ate.
Genesis 3:4-6

Donna Matrix · Post by **Donna Matrix** » Tue Jan 01, 2008 5:20 pm

[quote]Alrighty then.........

Since we are all feeling intelligent, smart and wise here,

How does the Bible define â€œwisdomâ€

Donna Matrix · Post by **Donna Matrix** » Tue Jan 01, 2008 5:29 pm

erri2000 wrote:
Donna Matrix wrote:I had to come up with my own rules
I will show you mine if you show me yours, game?

Okay erri, I was quite impressed with your rules. I liked probably 95% of them.

I have two set of rules:
1. the ones I should be following
2. the ones I really am following but know better but I just can't help myself most of the time but then I forgive myself because God forgives me and I try again to follow number 1.

#1 rules:
Love God with all your strength, mind, soul and heart.
Love your neighbor as you love yourself.

#2 rules:
Treat them the way they treat you but will a little more respcet but not very much lest they think you are a doormat, which of course you'd be if you just let them get away with it.

oneeyeddick · Post by **oneeyeddick** » Tue Jan 01, 2008 8:43 pm

Simon of the Playa wrote:dont bother jizzin' your pearl necklace on the face of a swine or something like that....

Almost forgot this little gem also :

Matthew 7:6 (King James Version)

Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine,
lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.

oneeyeddick · Post by **oneeyeddick** » Tue Jan 01, 2008 9:00 pm

As for the current question.........

How does the Bible define â€œwisdomâ€

dana · Post by **dana** » Tue Jan 01, 2008 9:16 pm

Donna Matrix wrote: Wisdom is the knowledge of God. It begins with the fear of God.

Love God with all your strength, mind, soul and heart.

Wow. There it is. The most bizarre and difficult statement that a Christian can make.

If we see a woman in a relationship with a man which she fears and "loves" at the same time, we tend to say that she is trapped in a dangerous and abusive relationship. But the christians seem to like that position in relation to their god.
I haven't seen one yet who can come up with a good rational of how that works out.

How do we reconcile threats of punishment with love?

Baby, I love you so much.

But if you leave me Bitch, you're dead!!

oneeyeddick · Post by **oneeyeddick** » Tue Jan 01, 2008 9:42 pm

And what do those threats of punishment lead to if
God decides to show his omnipotentness ?

A good thwacking with the backside of a ruler ? (my personal fave)
A literal swatting of his hand ?
Eternal Damnation ? (this one keep me in line )

This is an interesting topic, one that I will hopefully never have to witness first-hand.

When God gets angry, He can be compared to one of those fire-breathers in the circus.
How?

A. He breathed fire out of His nose and smoke out of His mouth.
B. He breathed fire out of His mouth and smoke out of His nose.
C. He breathed fire and smoke out of both His nose and mouth, but not to a degree that could burn anything.
D. All of the above.

Donna Matrix · Post by **Donna Matrix** » Wed Jan 02, 2008 3:54 am

Fear is not always the fear of punishment but people who condemn God seem to always think so.

Fear can also be fear of losing the other person's respect, love or admiration. One can be afraid of what the other person thinks of them. And then there is righteous anger - there is a very good reason that someone is mad at you, like when you say you'll do something and then don't and let them down.

When a person falls in love the fear of that person leaving them is always present. When a baby is born there comes a fear that something might happen to that baby, so extra care is given. There are a lot of examples of fear without punishment.

The question begs: Why are you afraid of God's punishment?

Simon of the Playa · Post by **Simon of the Playa** » Wed Jan 02, 2008 7:18 am

the STORY of christ is a cheap rip-off of the Myth of Horus, the Sun (son) God.

Jesus Never Existed.

Morningstar is the True name of the SUN (son) of God.....DUH!

Jesus is about as real as Mickey Mouse, and just about as Heinous in the deception they provide.

take your cross of lies and shove it.

I AM NOT AFRAID OF YOUR GOD.

dana · Post by **dana** » Wed Jan 02, 2008 7:52 am

Donna Matrix wrote:Fear is not always the fear of punishment but people who condemn God seem to always think so.

Fear can also be fear of losing the other person's respect, love or admiration. One can be afraid of what the other person thinks of them. And then there is righteous anger - there is a very good reason that someone is mad at you, like when you say you'll do something and then don't and let them down.

When a person falls in love the fear of that person leaving them is always present. When a baby is born there comes a fear that something might happen to that baby, so extra care is given. There are a lot of examples of fear without punishment.

The question begs: Why are you afraid of God's punishment?

OK. So you mostly opted for the neener neener neener argument, and decided to skip this whole question of punishment in hell vs reward in heaven. (As if God should be reduced down to The Great Behaviorist In the Sky - "He" comes up with a pretty nifty universe, which is a massively creative effort, but can't think of anything better to do with people after their one lifetime than either condemning them for eternity to either alternative......????)

However you did manage to point out one signifigant fear that is not dispelled by love - the fear of loss. (I thought about putting it in my post, but wanted you to focus on the normal biblical concerns.)

Why are you afraid of God's punishment?

My god has given me very strict commandments on that very fact:
Don't fear punishment!
Immediately after the fact, I have already been forgiven.
It is only for me to receive that forgiveness - either from myself (or if it seems appropriate from the Goddess herself.)

growth= recognition/acknowlegement, forgiveness, change

You can quote me on that "inspired" scripture, and repeat it for however many thousands of years seems appropriate.[/quote]

Donna Matrix · Post by **Donna Matrix** » Wed Jan 02, 2008 8:25 am

There are a lot of different kinds of believers in God / Jesus / Scripture out in the world.

What I object to is being classified into one group or the other based on YOUR experiences rather than MY experiences. What anybody thinks of me is not me.

The fact that few seem willing to listen to me about my experiences and instead wish to peg me to some preconceived slot is disenchanting. In fact and in law, classification that reduce a person to one characterics is bigotry - a form of x-ism. In this case it might be called beliefism or Jesusism (very similar to racism).

Bigot = a person who is utterly intolerant of any different creed, belief, or opinion.

My experiences at BM is far far different than my experiences on eplaya.

help · Post by **help** » Wed Jan 02, 2008 8:49 am

I always was a sucker for a sweet face.

What could possibly go wrong in a world with Pope Lillipops?

BitterDan · Post by **BitterDan** » Wed Jan 02, 2008 10:30 am

And what do those threats of punishment lead to if
God decides to show his omnipotentness ?

There is always viagra.

Donna Matrix · Post by **Donna Matrix** » Wed Jan 02, 2008 11:02 am

Box Burner · Post by **Box Burner** » Wed Jan 02, 2008 11:24 am

If the god you believe in is going to command your support and respect by making you afraid of him then he is a bully and should quickly be disposed of.

the fact of the matter, I believe, is that the definition of the word fear has changed or was lost in translation many, many ages ago. Probably before or about the time that moses wrote the first books of the bible. (I am using the bible as a historical reference here.) I think that the true meaning of the word is more akin to "understanding". The danger of science or wisdom is that once you start to "see" how things work it becomes easy to say that everything happened naturally and there is no god. The problem is that you are only seeing a small part of the the picture. The only way to really know that god created everything is to know everything that god knows.

but then you would be god.

Donna Matrix · Post by **Donna Matrix** » Wed Jan 02, 2008 11:44 am

Box Burner... you are right...

Proverbs 9:10

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The fear
yir'ah (yir-aw')
fear (also used as infinitive); morally, reverence -- dreadful, exceedingly, fear(-fulness).
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of the LORD
Yhovah (yeh-ho-vaw')
(the) self-Existent or Eternal; Jehovah, Jewish national name of God -- Jehovah, the Lord.
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is the beginning
tchillah (tekh-il-law')
a commencement; rel. original (adverb, -ly) -- begin(-ning), first (time).
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of wisdom
chokmah (khok-maw')
wisdom (in a good sense) -- skilful, wisdom, wisely, wit.
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and the knowledge
da`ath (dah'-ath)
knowledge -- cunning, (ig-)norantly, know(-ledge), (un-)awares (wittingly).
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of the holy
qadowsh (kaw-doshe')
sacred (ceremonially or morally); (as noun) God (by eminence), an angel, a saint, a sanctuary -- holy (One), saint.
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is understanding
biynah (bee-naw')
understanding -- knowledge, meaning, perfectly, understanding, wisdom.

Scripturetext.com Online Bible

Box Burner · Post by **Box Burner** » Wed Jan 02, 2008 11:56 am

but then you would be god.