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Post by joel the ornery » Thu Feb 23, 2006 9:18 am

David Brooks, NY TImes wrote:February 23, 2006
Kicking Arabs in the Teeth
By DAVID BROOKS
It's come to my attention that many of the foreign goods we import into our country are made by foreigners who speak foreign languages and are foreign. It's come to my attention that many varieties of hummus and other vital bread schmears are made by Arabs, the group responsible for 9/11. Furthermore, it's come to my attention that the Chinese have a menacing death grip on America's pacifier, blankie, bunny and rattle supplies, and have thus established crushing domination of the entire non-pharmaceutical child sedative industry.

It's therefore time for Chuck Schumer, Hillary Clinton, Bill Frist and Peter King to work together to write the National Security Ethnic Profiling Save Our Children Act, which would prevent Muslims from buying port management firms, the Chinese from buying oil and mouth-toy companies, and the Norwegians from using their secret control of U.S fluoridation levels to sap our precious bodily fluids at the Winter Olympics.

In other words, what we need to protect our security and way of life is a broad-based, xenophobic Know Nothing campaign of dressed-up photo-op nativism to show foreigners we will no longer submit to their wily ways.

Never mind — the nativist, isolationist mass hysteria is already here.

This Dubai port deal has unleashed a kind of collective mania we haven't seen in decades. First seized by the radio hatemonger Michael Savage, it's been embraced by reactionaries of left and right, exploited by Empire State panderers, and enabled by a bipartisan horde of politicians who don't have the guts to stand in front of a xenophobic tsunami.

But let's be clear: the opposition to the acquisition by Dubai Ports World is completely bogus.

The deal would have no significant effect on port security. Regardless of who operates the ports, the Coast Guard still controls their physical security. The Customs Service still controls container security. The harbor patrols, the port authorities and the harbor police still do their jobs. Nearly every expert who actually knows something about port security says the ownership of the operating companies is the least of our concerns. "This kind of reaction is totally illogical," Philip Damas, research director of Drewry Shipping Consultants, told The Times. "The location of the headquarters of a company in the age of globalism is irrelevant."

Nor would the deal radically alter the workplace. If the Dubai holding company does acquire the operating firm, the American longshoremen would stay on the job, the American unions would still be there to organize them, and most or all of the management would probably stay, too.

Nor would the deal be particularly new in the world of global shipping. Dick Meyer of CBS News reports that Dubai Ports World already operates facilities in Australia, China, Korea and Germany. It's seeking to acquire facilities in 18 other countries — none of them caught up in an isolationist fever like the one we see here. Eighty percent of the facilities at the port of Los Angeles are run by foreign firms — somehow without national collapse — including one owned by the government of Singapore.

Nor is Dubai a bastion of Taliban radicalism. All Arabs may look alike to certain blowhard senators, but the United Arab Emirates is a modernizing, globalizing place. It was the first country in the region to sign the U.S. Container Security Initiative. It's signed agreements to bar the passage of nuclear material and to suppress terror financing. U.A.E. ports service U.S. military ships, and U.A.E. firms have made major investments in Chrysler and Time Warner, somehow without turning them into fundamentalist bastions.

In short, there is no evidence this deal will do any harm. But it is certain that the xenophobic hysteria will come back to harm the U.S.

The oil-rich nations of the Middle East have plenty of places to invest their money and don't need to do favors for nations that kick them in the teeth. Moreover, this is a region in the midst of traumatic democratic change. The strongest argument the fundamentalists have is that they are engaged in a holy war against the racist West, which imposes one set of harsh rules on Arabs and another set of rules on everybody else. Now comes a group of politicians to prove them gloriously right.

God must love Hamas and Moktada al-Sadr. He has given them the America First brigades of Capitol Hill. God must love the folks at Al Jazeera. They won't have to work to stoke resentments this week. All the garbage they need will be spewing forth from press conferences and photo ops on C-Span and CNN.
AZ II, Two of the 19 hijackers were from the UAE, not "most". While you claim your comments are not based on racial bias, you certainly have made strange bed partners with thoose who do base their decisions on race. I find the justaposition, amusing.
wikipedia wrote:The nineteen conspiring hijackers who carried out the attack were affiliated with al-Qaeda, a well-organized Islamic terrorist group led by Osama bin Laden, a former Saudi national whose citizenship was revoked in 1994[1]. Fifteen of the hijackers were from Saudi Arabia, two were from the United Arab Emirates, and one each came from Egypt and Lebanon. American investigators concluded that it was Khalid Shaikh Mohammed who led the planning of the attacks. He was captured in 2003. The 9/11 Commission states in its final report that the attackers were terrorists. Bin Laden initially denied responsibility, [2] but later admitted to involvement in the attacks.
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What bothers me the most about this port deal with the UAE is that USA corporations don't see any point in owning said control over these USA ports.

Isn't there sufficient profit margins to interest USA Corporations in taking over these ports?

Other than security issues (which haven't been aggressively addressed since 9/11 by neither political party), USA corporations not reinvesting alone bothers me the most.

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Post by EvilDustBooger » Thu Feb 23, 2006 9:30 am

Starting to see a pattern of unilateral decisions and under-the-table agreements yet?

Oh, but it`s an election year, so let`s not draw attention to ourselves.

Hello?

I predict that Dubai is a done deal...
...because it starts with "Dub"...

but not to worry, it`s all just fine because they said it`s fine,
what the hell do we need accountability for?..
...it just slows down the good works that our brave leaders are performing every day....
...our government has OUR best interests in mind...
they are protecting us from the terrorism and not just lining the pockets of cronies in large corporations.

...right?

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Post by Kinetic IV » Thu Feb 23, 2006 9:55 am

Halliburton?

Oversight? We don't need no stinkin oversight. Let the soldiers in Baghdad drink polluted water...now where was that bottle of Dom again?
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Post by joel the ornery » Thu Feb 23, 2006 10:07 am

here might be a few national defense reasons for allowing the UAE deal to go through


Gen. Peter Pace, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, told reporters Tuesday that the military relationship is "superb," and that U.S. forces use UAE seaports and air fields for logistics support and for training of Air Force pilots. Pace was in the Persian Gulf nation two months ago for talks with senior UAE military officials.

"In everything that we have asked and worked with them on, they have proven to be very, very solid partners," Pace said.

Among the specifics that Pace did not mention:

• Air Force U-2 spy planes and Global Hawk unmanned surveillance aircraft have been based at al-Dhafra air base, along with KC-10 aerial refueling planes. When a U-2 crashed in the UAE last June, killing the Air Force pilot, American officials did not publicly disclose the location "due to host nation sensitivities."

• U.S. sailors and Marines regularly make liberty calls at the port of Jebel Ali, near the UAE's largest city, Dubai.

• In March 2000 the UAE and the United States completed a sales agreement for 80 of the most sophisticated versions of the F-16 fighter jet.

• The threat to commercial shipping in the Gulf during the "tanker war" between Iran and Iraq in the 1980s was the impetus for the United States to develop closer ties to the UAE. Ties grew much closer after Iraq invaded Kuwait in August 1990.

The formal basis for the U.S.-UAE military relationship is a defense cooperation agreement signed in 1994. As with most other American allies in the Persian Gulf, including Saudi Arabia, the presence of American troops in the UAE is either cloaked in a degree of secrecy or de-emphasized out of concern about anti-US sentiment.

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Post by DVD Burner » Thu Feb 23, 2006 10:24 am

I am still having a hard time understanding why I see nowhere any mention either on this board or in the media, PNAC?

Why is it that it seems everyone is afraid to talk about PNAC?

Is it that if PNAC were mentioned more there would be a possibility of charging the people mentioned in PNAC with treason successfully?

Illuminati is a little bit harder to prove, but PNAC is a publicly signed deal.
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Post by EvilDustBooger » Thu Feb 23, 2006 11:39 am

joel the ornery wrote:here might be a few national defense reasons for allowing the UAE deal to go through
Those are all excellent reasons for remaining in the region and staying
involved in trade and political relations, but,.. accepting necessary evils as allies is not a great reason for trusting foreign companies to be in charge of our ports...however little actual security work is involved in this deal.

I agree American companies should step up, but it is an ominous proposition considering the current uneven national security conditions
and requirements..

This would not even be an issue if our own government would or even could step up to it`s own security obligations.
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But, for the time being we are crippled by the huge expenditures currently being made - dabbling in oil and Muslim politics, usurping our lives, limbs and money with the questionable "war" we are conducting in Eden.

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Post by joel the ornery » Thu Feb 23, 2006 12:01 pm

EvilDustBooger wrote:This would not even be an issue if our own government would or even could step up to it`s own security obligations.
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Post by DVD Burner » Thu Feb 23, 2006 4:19 pm

Secret Service Agents Say Cheney Was Drunk When He Shot Lawyer


Today, 12:37 PM

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By DOUG THOMPSON
Feb 22, 2006, 07:35


Secret Service agents guarding Vice President Dick Cheney when he shot Texas lawyer Harry Whittington on a hunting outing two weeks ago say Cheney was "clearly inebriated" at the time of the shooting.

Agents observed several members of the hunting party, including the Vice President, consuming alcohol before and during the hunting expedition, the report notes, and Cheney exhibited "visible signs" of impairment, including slurred speech and erratic actions.
According to those who have talked with the agents and others present at the outing, Cheney was drunk when he gunned down his friend and the day-and-a-half delay in allowing Texas law enforcement officials on the ranch where the shooting occurred gave all members of the hunting party time to sober up.

We talked with a number of administration officials who are privy to inside information on the Vice President's shooting "accident" and all admit Secret Service agents and others say they saw Cheney consume far more than the "one beer' he claimed he drank at lunch earlier that day.

"This was a South Texas hunt," says one White House aide. "Of course there was drinking. There's always drinking. Lots of it."

One agent at the scene has been placed on administrative leave and another requested reassignment this week. A memo reportedly written by one agent has been destroyed, sources said Wednesday afternoon.

Cheney has a long history of alcohol abuse, including two convictions of driving under the influence when he was younger. Doctors tell me that someone like Cheney, who is taking blood thinners because of his history of heart attacks, could get legally drunk now after consuming just one drink.

If Cheney was legally drunk at the time of the shooting, he could be guilty of a felony under Texas law and the shooting, ruled an accident by a compliant Kenedy County Sheriff, would be a prosecutable offense.

But we will never know for sure because the owners of the Armstrong Ranch, where the shooting occurred, barred the sheriff's department from the property on the day of the shooting and Kenedy County Sheriff Ramon Salinas III agreed to wait until the next day to send deputies in to talk to those involved.

Sheriff's Captain Charles Kirk says he went to the Armstrong Ranch immediately after the shooting was reported on Saturday, February 11 but both he and a game warden were not allowed on the 50,000-acre property. He called Salinas who told him to forget about it and return to the station.

"I told him don't worry about it. I'll make a call," Salinas said. The sheriff claims he called another deputy who moonlights at the Armstrong ranch, said he was told it was "just an accident" and made the decision to wait until Sunday to investigate.

"We've known these people for years. They are honest and wouldn't call us, telling us a lie," Salinas said.

Like all elected officials in Kenedy County, Salinas owes his job to the backing and financial support of Katherine Armstrong, owner of the ranch and the county's largest employer.

"The Armstrongs rule Kenedy County like a fiefdom," says a former employee.

Secret Service officials also took possession of all tests on Whittington's blood at the hospitals where he was treated for his wounds. When asked if a blood alcohol test had been performed on Whittington, the doctors who treated him at Christus Spohn Hospital Memorial in Corpus Christi or the hospital in Kingsville refused to answer. One admits privately he was ordered by the Secret Service to "never discuss the case with the press."

It's a sure bet that is a private doctor who treated the victim of Cheney's reckless and drunken actions can't talk to the public then any evidence that shows the Vice President drunk as a skunk will never see the light of day.

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Post by DVD Burner » Fri Feb 24, 2006 3:17 am

Arroyo should go.





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Post by Davoid » Fri Feb 24, 2006 2:32 pm

joel the ornery wrote:
David Brooks, NY TImes wrote:The strongest argument the fundamentalists have is that they are engaged in a holy war against the racist West, which imposes one set of harsh rules on Arabs and another set of rules on everybody else. Now comes a group of politicians to prove them gloriously right.
I think he meant to say another group of politicians.

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Post by Kinetic IV » Fri Feb 24, 2006 2:51 pm

DVD Burner wrote:Arroyo should go.
(no one knows what I am talking about.)
Fine. Name a suitable replacement that's not worse than she is.
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Bzzzt. Times up. You couldn't answer because there is no suitable replacement.
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Post by DVD Burner » Fri Feb 24, 2006 3:38 pm

You may have a point there K.


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Post by Apollonaris Zeus » Sat Feb 25, 2006 8:44 pm

Sorry, about that flaw, joel. I had confused UAE with Saudi, but never the less they too are affiliated and Wahhabists too. Perhaps the worst of the funtamentalist.

WAHHABI ISLAM AND THE GULF

The eighteenth and nineteenth centuries were a turbulent time for Arabia in general and for the gulf in particular. To the southeast, the Al Said of Oman were extending their influence northward, and from Iraq the Ottoman Turks were extending their influence southward. From the east, both the Iranians and the British were becoming increasingly involved in Arab affairs.

The most significant development in the region, however, was the Wahhabi movement. The name Wahhabi derived from Muhammad ibn Abd al Wahhab, who died in 1792. He grew up in an oasis town in central Arabia where he studied Hanbali law, usually considered the strictest of Islamic legal schools, with his grandfather. While still a young man, he left home and continued his studies in Medina and then in Iraq and Iran.

When he returned from Iran to Arabia in the late 1730s, he attacked as idolatry many of the customs followed by tribes in the area who venerated rocks and trees. He extended his criticism to practices of the Twelver Shia, such as veneration of the tombs of holy men. He focused on the central Muslim principle that there is only one God and that this God does not share his divinity with anyone. From this principle, his students began to refer to themselves as muwahhidun (sing., muwahhid), or "unitarians." Their detractors referred to them as "Wahhabis."

Muhammad ibn Abd al Wahhab considered himself a reformer and looked for a political figure to give his ideas a wider audience. He found this person in Muhammad ibn Saud, the amir (see Glossary) of Ad Diriyah, a small town near Riyadh. In 1744 the two swore a traditional Muslim pledge in which they promised to work together to establish a new state (which later became present-day Saudi Arabia) based on Islamic principles. The limited but successful military campaigns of Muhammad ibn Saud caused Arabs from all over the peninsula to feel the impact of Wahhabi ideas.

The Wahhabis became known for a fanaticism similar to that of the early Kharijites. This fanaticism helped to intensify conflicts in the gulf. Whereas tribes from the interior had always raided settled communities along the coast, the Wahhabi faith provided them with a justification for continuing these incursions to spread true Islam. Accordingly, in the nineteenth century Wahhabi tribes, under the leadership of the Al Saud, moved at various times against Kuwait, Bahrain, and Oman. In Oman, the Wahhabi faith created internal dissension as well as an external menace because it proved popular with some of the Ibadi tribes in the Omani interior.

Wahhabi thought has had a special impact on the history of Qatar. Muhammad ibn Abd al Wahhab's ideas proved popular among many of the peninsula tribes, including the Al Thani clan, before the Al Khalifa attempted to take over the area from Bahrain at the beginning of the nineteenth century. As a result, Wahhabi beliefs motivated Al Thani efforts to resist the attempt of the Al Khalifa, who rejected Wahhabism, to gain control of the peninsula. In the early 1990s, Wahhabism distinguished Qatar religiously from its neighbors.

Wahhabi fervor was also significant in the history of the present-day UAE. The Qawasim tribes that had controlled the area since the eighteenth century adapted Wahhabi ideas and transferred the movement's religious enthusiasm to the piracy in which they had traditionally engaged. Whereas Wahhabi thought opposed all that was not orthodox in Islam, it particularly opposed non-Muslim elements such as the increasing European presence in the Persian Gulf.

Data as of January 1993

And we went after Saddam, a man that wanted to rid the peninsula of Wahhabists.


And I was right about the cover up of Cheney being drunk. He should be in jail. Any way he's a tr and now a felon in my book! Damage Control cover up.

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Post by EvilDustBooger » Fri Mar 03, 2006 12:45 pm

It is with a heavy heart and a groaning yawn that I announce that
it`s official :

Nobody Gives A Shit.

Go and have a great weekend knowing that you are safe and someone is in charge.

There were a couple blurbs about it yesterday, almost in passing, when it was revealed that :
yes indeed, as expected the "Patriot Act" was given full legality by our congress with only minor cosmetic changes to please the stuffier hold-outs. George still must have dirt on everybody, because "The Patriot Act" is fact now, and not just some bad joke created by the military/industrio-wizzes in the bush administration.
In effect our government now has even more power and less accountability. More faceless agencies and appointed(that is not-elected)officials will be calling the shots from behind the scenes with impunity.
The words from our fearless leader, who prides himself as a Reagan like republican, who also initially believed in limiting government power-until he got into government, ... :)... are as follows :

"This bill will allow our law enforcement officials to continue to use the same tools against terrorists that are already used against drug dealers and other criminals, while safeguarding the civil liberties of the American people,"

That`s right. Let`s add insult to injury by commending ourselves on the
superb job we`re doing in "the war on drugs" to bolster confidence in the
amazing job we`ll be doing "fighting terrorism" with all those extra billions to
spend on our "covert" activities... all the while "safeguarding" American liberties.

Isn`t that sweet?
On the surface it sounds simple, if you are against drug dealers and terrorists you should be fine with this , right?.....

Practically runaway drug enforcement policies along with the publically funded yet privately operated armies they employ,... with open borders and under-scrutinized ports and even more un-accountable government agencies already bumbling security operations that are over-extended with the "spot enforcement" they do now... "in charge" of everything,...?

HAH!

This a recipe for serious trouble.

I haven`t given up believing in America or the freedom so many have given thier lives to preserve, but I seriously question the intent of this legislation. I believe this is an attempt by our administration to COVER-ASS and I am not a happy camper when I see the ruinous implications this type of legislation could have on our countries future.

One thing is certain.
We need to be VERY careful about who we elect as President for at least
a generation.
It will take a progressive of the FDR caliber to repair the damage being done to our country both home and abroad in the last 2 terms.


IMHO of course.

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Post by DVD Burner » Fri Mar 03, 2006 1:51 pm

EvilDustBooger wrote:We need to be VERY careful about who we elect as President for at least
a generation.

so knowing the facts about Diebold still makes you belive that your vote actually counts huh?


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Post by lurker » Fri Mar 03, 2006 2:04 pm

so knowing the facts about Diebold still makes you belive that your vote actually counts huh?
What facts? Facts like the head of the company is a Republican so , obviously, he's set it up to steal your vote?

That kinda fact?

How about this fact. Whoever makes the machines you vote on, whoever counts the votes you vote, whover makes, designs and distributes the card/ballot/ whatever you use to vote with is, most likely going to have some kind of a political opinion. Get that? People have political opinions.

Should we distrust this guy because he's Republican? Should we distrust him because he said he'd 'get the state' for Bush? How many other campaigners use terminology like that?

And if we should distrust this guy because he's got obvious political biases, how do we fix it? Let a Democrat do it? Don't they have political biases , too?

The dead vote Democrat so often it's not a joke--hell the Democrats RUN dead people.

People have political biases, DVD, there's not a damned thing you can do about it
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Post by EvilDustBooger » Fri Mar 03, 2006 2:10 pm

Diebold Voting Corp.?
Another large corporation trying to "dictate" policy discussion?
The Pricks....
I will neither cease or desist.

When they pry my cold dead fingers off of my sharpie.... :wink:

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Post by DVD Burner » Fri Mar 03, 2006 4:02 pm

:lol:

You guys are funny.


Not to change topics but I wanted to post this little tid bit in relation to PNAC since no one here really likes to post about it here.
It's not about PNAC.....per se.


Ex-CIA Official Faults Use of Data on Iraq
Intelligence 'Misused' to Justify War, He Says


By Walter Pincus
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, February 10, 2006; Page A01

The former CIA official who coordinated U.S. intelligence on the Middle East until last year has accused the Bush administration of "cherry-picking" intelligence on Iraq to justify a decision it had already reached to go to war, and of ignoring warnings that the country could easily fall into violence and chaos after an invasion to overthrow Saddam Hussein.

Paul R. Pillar, who was the national intelligence officer for the Near East and South Asia from 2000 to 2005, acknowledges the U.S. intelligence agencies' mistakes in concluding that Hussein's government possessed weapons of mass destruction. But he said those misjudgments did not drive the administration's decision to invade.

"Official intelligence on Iraqi weapons programs was flawed, but even with its flaws, it was not what led to the war," Pillar wrote in the upcoming issue of the journal Foreign Affairs. Instead, he asserted, the administration "went to war without requesting -- and evidently without being influenced by -- any strategic-level intelligence assessments on any aspect of Iraq."

"It has become clear that official intelligence was not relied on in making even the most significant national security decisions, that intelligence was misused publicly to justify decisions already made, that damaging ill will developed between [Bush] policymakers and intelligence officers, and that the intelligence community's own work was politicized," Pillar wrote.

Pillar's critique is one of the most severe indictments of White House actions by a former Bush official since Richard C. Clarke, a former National Security Council staff member, went public with his criticism of the administration's handling of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks and its failure to deal with the terrorist threat beforehand.

It is also the first time that such a senior intelligence officer has so directly and publicly condemned the administration's handling of intelligence.

Pillar, retired after 28 years at the CIA, was an influential behind-the-scenes player and was considered the agency's leading counterterrorism analyst. By the end of his career, he was responsible for coordinating assessments on Iraq from all 15 agencies in the intelligence community. He is now a professor in security studies at Georgetown University.

White House officials did not respond to a request to comment for this article. They have vehemently denied accusations that the administration manipulated intelligence to generate public support for the war.

"Our statements about the threat posed by Saddam Hussein were based on the aggregation of intelligence from a number of sources and represented the collective view of the intelligence community," national security adviser Stephen J. Hadley said in a White House briefing in November. "Those judgments were shared by Republicans and Democrats alike."

Republicans and Democrats in Congress continue to argue over whether, or how, to investigate accusations the administration manipulated prewar intelligence.

Yesterday, the Senate Republican Policy Committee issued a statement to counter what it described as "the continuing Iraq pre-war intelligence myths," including charges that Bush " 'misused' intelligence to justify the war." Writing that it was perfectly reasonable for the president to rely on the intelligence he was given, the paper concluded, "it is actually the critics who are misleading the American people."

In his article, Pillar said he believes that the "politicization" of intelligence on Iraq occurred "subtly" and in many forms, but almost never resulted from a policymaker directly asking an analyst to reshape his or her results. "Such attempts are rare," he writes, "and when they do occur . . . are almost always unsuccessful



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Post by DVD Burner » Fri Mar 03, 2006 10:20 pm

This was on the other board and I just could not help it....I just had to post here.


Presidency to be outsourced



Congress today announced that the Office of President of the United
States of America will be outsourced to India as of December 31, 2006.



The move is being made to save the President's $400,000 yearly salary, and also a record $521 billion in deficit expenditures and related overhead the office has incurred during the last 5 years.

"We believe this is a wise move financially. The cost savings should be significant," stated Congressman Thomas Reynolds (R-WA). Reynolds, with the aid of the Government Accounting Office, has studied outsourcing of American jobs extensively. "We cannot expect to remain competitive on the world stage with the current level of cash outlay," Reynolds noted.

Mr. Bush was informed by email this morning of his termination.
Preparations for the job move have been underway for sometime. Gurvinder Singh of Indus Teleservices, Mumbai, India, will be assuming the office of President as of April 1st. Mr. Singh was born in the United States while his Indian parents were vacationing at Niagara Falls, thus making him eligible for the position.

He will receive a salary of $320 (USD) a month but with no health coverage or other benefits. It is believed that Mr. Singh will be able to handle his job responsibilities without support staff. Due to the time difference between the US and India, he will be working primarily at night, when few offices of the US Government will be open.

"Working nights will allow me to keep my day job at the American Express call center," stated Mr. Singh in an exclusive interview. "I am excited about this position. I always hoped I would be President someday."

A Congressional spokesperson noted that while Mr. Singh may not be fully aware of all the issues involved in the office of President, this
Should not be a problem because Bush was not familiar with the issues either. Mr. Singh will rely upon a script tree that will enable him to respond effectively to most topics of concern. Using these canned responses, he can address common concerns without having to understand the underlying issues at all.

"We know these scripting tools work," stated the spokesperson.
"President Bush has used them successfully for years." Mr. Singh may have problems with the Texas drawl, but lately Bush has abandoned the "down home" persona in his effort to appear intelligent and on top of the Katrina situation.

Bush will receive health coverage, expenses, and salary until his final day of employment. Following a two-week waiting period, he will be eligible for $240 a week unemployment for 13 weeks. Unfortunately he will not be eligible for Medicaid, as his unemployment benefits will exceed the allowed limit.

Mr. Bush has been provided the outplacement services of Manpower, Inc., to help him write a resume and prepare for his upcoming job transition.
According to Manpower, Mr. Bush may have difficulties in securing a new position due to limited practical work experience. A Greeter Position at Wal-Mart was suggested due to Bush's extensive experience shaking hands and phony smile.

Another possibility is Bush's re-enlistment in the Texas Air National Guard. His prior records are conspicuously vague but should he choose this option, he would likely be stationed in Waco, TX for a month, before being sent to Iraq, a country he has visited. "I've been there, I know all about Iraq," stated Mr. Bush, who gained invaluable knowledge of the country in a visit to the Baghdad Airport's terminal and gift shop.

Sources in Baghdad and Falluja say Mr. Bush would receive a warm reception from local Iraqis. They have asked to be provided with details of his arrival so that they might arrange an appropriate welcome.
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Post by Apollonaris Zeus » Tue Mar 07, 2006 6:41 am

Somewhere there is documented evidence that will put GWB and the Krew in jail that should be coming to light soon for the war with Iraq.

Meanwhile, more mass executions of Sunni's have been found. I find this a sad joke because isn't that Why Saddam is being tried on right now!

The highest levels of returning soldiers are seeking psychological help then any war ever fought. Funny what happens when you don't find those mythological WMD's and find out that you are putting your life and your families on the line and you have been duped just like the Gulf War soldiers!

Now let see how those new supreme court appointees will vote on this:

South Dakota Bans Abortion, Setting Up a Battle



By MONICA DAVEY
Published: March 7, 2006
Gov. Michael Rounds of South Dakota signed into law the nation's most sweeping state abortion ban on Monday, an intentional provocation meant to set up a direct legal challenge to Roe v. Wade, the 1973 United States Supreme Court decision that made abortion legal.

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Gov. Michael Rounds signing the abortion measure Monday in Pierre, S.D. Mr. Rounds said he fully expected a legal challenge.

South Dakota's Governor Says He Favors Abortion Ban Bill (February 25, 2006)

Ban on Most Abortions Advances in South Dakota (February 23, 2006) The law makes it a felony to perform any abortion except in a case of a pregnant woman's life being in jeopardy. Though the law is not scheduled to go into effect until July, officials working at the state's only abortion clinic, in Sioux Falls, where about 800 abortions take place each year, said they spent much of the day consoling women.

"This is a very real issue for a lot of people," said Kate Looby, state director of Planned Parenthood. "That's the part I think the legislators don't quite understand."

Mr. Rounds, a Republican, said in a statement after signing the legislation in Pierre that it was the right thing to do. The law will force a legal showdown before it ever comes into effect, an outcome its supporters, eager to overturn Roe, intended.

"In the history of the world, the true test of a civilization is how well people treat the most vulnerable and most helpless in their society," the governor said. "The sponsors and supporters of this bill believe that abortion is wrong because unborn children are the most vulnerable and most helpless persons in our society. I agree with them."

Around the country, abortion rights advocates responded with fury, calling the new law "blatantly unconstitutional," dangerous and counter to what a majority of Americans would support. Planned Parenthood, which operates the abortion clinic in South Dakota, pledged to use any means necessary — whether a federal lawsuit or a statewide referendum — to sideline the statute.

Under state law, if opponents collect 16,728 signatures of registered voters in the next three months the law will be delayed and a vote held on the issue in November.

"We're trying to evaluate the timing and the options now, but we're committed to making sure this does not come into effect," Cecile Richards, president of the Planned Parenthood Federation of America, said in a telephone interview. "It's a sad day for the women of South Dakota. We had really hoped that the governor would weigh women's health as more important than politics."

Leaders on each side of the abortion debate said South Dakota's law had stirred new support and fervor for their causes. Abortion rights advocates reported a flood of donations, volunteers and membership requests since the abortion bill began drawing national attention last month.

Opponents said they, too, had had a flood of calls, including numerous donations to a defense fund to fight what is expected to be expensive litigation on behalf of South Dakota.

Already, the state's move seems to have emboldened legislators opposed to abortion elsewhere. For months, similar bills had been proposed in the statehouses of at least a half-dozen states, including Ohio, Georgia and Tennessee, but some efforts have gained steam in the weeks since the South Dakota Legislature overwhelmingly passed its ban.

"Legislators feel that now is the time to wrestle back their authority from the courts," said Tony Perkins, president of the Family Research Council, based in Washington. "The courts have overstepped their bounds on issues like gay marriage, and the legislators are speaking up."

In Mississippi, an abortion ban with exceptions for rape, incest and the life of the mother passed the House on Thursday. In Missouri, legislation that would outlaw all abortions except to save the life of the mother was proposed last week.

But opponents of abortion have split over South Dakota's approach, a fact that Mr. Rounds acknowledged in recent weeks as he weighed whether to sign the legislation.

Some, including those who led efforts to pass the ban in South Dakota, said they considered this the ideal time to return the central question of Roe to the Supreme Court. State Representative Roger Hunt, who sponsored the bill in South Dakota, pointed to the appointments of Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. and Justice Samuel A. Alito Jr., both conservatives, and what he described as the "strong possibility" of the retirement of Justice John Paul Stevens in the near future and the naming of a conservative as his successor.

"This is our time," Mr. Hunt said on Monday.

Other national anti-abortion groups, though, have quietly disagreed with the timing, pressing instead to cut down on abortions by creating restrictions that may be more palatable to a wider audience, restrictions like parental and spousal notification laws and clinic regulations. If the Supreme Court upholds Roe, they have argued, the damage for those opposed to abortion rights will be grave.

"As much as this isn't the best strategic thing to do, it's there and it's the law of South Dakota now," said Daniel S. McConchie, vice president of Americans United for Life, another group. "We'll defend our position now — which is to oppose abortion."

Cristina Minniti, a spokeswoman for the National Right to Life Committee, said no one from her organization was available to be interviewed on the South Dakota law. Instead, she issued a one paragraph statement which stated, in part: "Currently there are at least five votes, a majority, on the U.S. Supreme Court to uphold Roe v. Wade."

Mr. Rounds, who became governor in 2003 after serving in the South Dakota Senate for a decade, declined to speak with reporters after the signing. In an earlier interview, he said that he personally felt uncertain about the timing of a challenge to Roe, but that he was leaning toward signing the bill, in part because he did not wish to divide the people who, like him, oppose abortion.

In the statement he issued on Monday, Mr. Rounds said he fully expected the law to be challenged, and that it might wind up in the nation's highest court. He compared the possibility of a reversal on Roe to that of the changing legal precedents around segregation.

"The reversal of a Supreme Court opinion is possible," the governor said. "For example, in 1896, the United States Supreme Court ruled in the Plessy vs. Ferguson case that a state could require racial segregation in public facilities if the facilities offered to different races were equal. However, 58 years later, the Supreme Court reconsidered that opinion and reversed itself in Brown vs. Board of Education."

End of article!

Who really wants the Wade vs Roe repealed?

Aliens from the 4 dimension, rapists and mad Arian fertility doctors!

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Post by OCCAM'S SLEDGE-O-MATIC » Sun Mar 12, 2006 11:21 am

So here's ANOTHER reason (as if we needed more) not to trust electronic voting machines;

http://www.bradblog.com/archives/00002458.htm

It's about the IrDA ports on voting machines.

Yes, the same kind you have on your celphone, PDA, portable computer, and computer controlled swedish penis-enlarging pump.

I feel way better about electronic voting now- especially since I've heard they're installing a big red button in the 2007 models that say "throw election".

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Post by lurker » Mon Mar 13, 2006 10:51 am

After the fiasco in 2000 everyone was screaming for some unambiguous way to count votes--without all this 'hanging chad' crap.

Electronic and computer voting were seen as ways to combat this...

But they soon came under fire because they proved(like every program) hackable--and worse, the people making them actually had political opinions of their own

So then, a whole bunch of people--who clearly had no long term memory--began clamoring for paper ballots 'so there would be a paper trail'

You want honest elections?

Eliminate the secret ballot.
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Post by DVD Burner » Mon Mar 13, 2006 11:59 am

Eliminate the electoral college.



Also I hope there is a way to get religion back out of politics.
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Post by rob easy » Mon Mar 13, 2006 1:30 pm

lurker wrote:
Eliminate the secret ballot.
You want elections controlled through violent or financial pressure targetted at specific voters then eliminate the secret ballot.

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Post by DVD Burner » Thu Mar 16, 2006 4:01 am

I'm sure everyone will want to read this.


http://www.sourcewatch.org/wiki.phtml?t ... in_P._Bush



Marvin Bush

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Marvin Pierce Bush, born October 22, 1956, is the brother of President George Walker Bush and Florida Governor Jeb Bush and the son of former President George Herbert Walker Bush and Barbara Bush.

Marvin Bush was described in 2000 by ABCNews as a "venture capitalist in Alexandria, VA. ... Marvin pitched in on his father's campaigns and his doing his part to help George W. raise cash. He and wife Margaret have two children, Marshall and Walker."[1] (http://abcnews.go.com/sections/politics ... nasty.html)


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Margie Burns, "Bush-Linked Company Handled Security for the WTC, Dulles and United," (http://www.infowars.com/print/Sept11/bu ... y_link.htm) Prince George's Journal, February 4, 2003. Also here (http://www.populist.com/03.02.burns.html) and here (http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2003/02/43867.shtml).

George W. Bush's brother was on the board of directors of a company providing electronic security for the World Trade Center, Dulles International Airport and United Airlines, according to public records. The company was backed by an investment firm, the Kuwait-American Corp., also linked for years to the Bush family.

The security company, formerly named Securacom and now named Stratesec, is in Sterling, Va.. Its CEO, Barry McDaniel, said the company had a 'completion contract' to handle some of the security at the World Trade Center 'up to the day the buildings fell down.'

It also had a three-year contract to maintain electronic security systems at Dulles Airport, according to a Dulles contracting official. Securacom/Stratesec also handled some security for United Airlines in the 1990s, according to McDaniel, but it had been completed before his arriving on the board in 1998.

McDaniel confirmed that the company has security contracts with the Department of Defense, including the U.S. Army, but did not detail the nature of the work, citing security concerns. It has an ongoing line with the General Services Administration - meaning that its bids for contracts are noncompetitive - and also did security work for the Los Alamos laboratory before 1998.

Marvin P. Bush, the president's youngest brother, was a director at Stratesec from 1993 to fiscal year 2000. But the White House has not publicly disclosed Bush connections in any of its responses to 9/11, nor has it mentioned that another Bush-linked business had done security work for the facilities attacked.

Marvin Bush joined Securacom when it was capitalized by the Kuwait-American Corporation, a private investment firm in D.C. that was the security company's major investor, sometimes holding a controlling interest. Marvin Bush has not responded to telephone calls and e-mails for comment.

KuwAm has been linked to the Bush family financially since the Gulf War. One of its principals and a member of the Kuwaiti royal family, Mishal Yousef Saud al Sabah, served on the board of Stratesec.

The managing director at KuwAm, Wirt D. Walker III, was also a principal at Stratesec, and Walker, Marvin Bush and al Sabah are listed in SEC filings as significant shareholders in both companies during that period.

Marvin Bush's last year on the board at Stratesec coincided with his first year on the board of HCC Insurance, formerly Houston Casualty Co., one of the insurance carriers for the WTC. He left the HCC board in November 2002.

But none of these connections has been looked at during the extensive investigations since 9/11. McDaniel says principals and other personnel at Stratesec have not been questioned or debriefed by the FBI or other investigators.

Walker declined to answer the same question regarding KuwAm, referring to the public record.

Walker is also chairman and CEO of Aviation General, a Tulsa, Okla.-based aviation company with two subsidiaries. SEC filings also show al Sabah as a principal and shareholder in Aviation General, which was recently delisted by the Nasdaq. Stratesec was delisted by the American Stock Exchange in October 2002.

The suite in which Marvin Bush was annually re-elected, according to public records, is located in the Watergate in space leased to the Saudi government. The company now holds shareholder meetings in space leased by the Kuwaiti government there. The White House has not responded to various requests for comment.

Speaking of the Watergate, Riggs National Bank, where Saudi Princess Al-Faisal had her 'Saudi money trail' bank account, has as one of its executives Jonathan Bush, an uncle of the president. The public has not learned whether Riggs - which services 95 percent of Washington's foreign embassies - will be turning over records relating to Saudi finance.

Meanwhile, Bush has nominated William H. Donaldson to head the Securities and Exchange Commission. Donaldson, a longtime Bush family friend, was a Yale classmate of Jonathan Bush.

On the very day of the tragic space shuttle crash, the government appointed an independent investigative panel, and rightly so. Why didn't it do the same on Sept. 12, 2001?
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Post by Bin Noddin » Wed Mar 22, 2006 8:26 pm

Read this and smile:

http://www.burnerswithoutborders.org/ka ... uinox/view

Read this and weep:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 01078.html

Really made me grind my teeth, though its not really news.
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Post by Kinetic IV » Wed Mar 22, 2006 9:11 pm

That warrants an email broadside to my local congressional delegation. It's freakin ridiculous. 6 layers of contractors? WTF are they doing down there? And if it's this jacked up just cleaning up debris I wonder how the levee reconstruction projects are being handled? That's the part that's real scary especially when past history is taken into account.
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