Teacher at My Kids School Threatend Me about BM

[Tay]

I bring these two up because it's not just a "Republican" or "Right Wing" issue, per se.

You're right about that Chai. In fact the traditional notions of the nanny state and thought crime come from the left (the novel 1984 was about a left wing government.) The right - or Republicans - "traditionally" - take a libertarian view of these ideas. I say traditionally because the current government is not exactly in line with those views.

I would venture to guess, even though it was a private school, that the school administrator would place herself firmly on the left side of the political spectrum. But burner politics are convoluted to say the least.

[spectabillis]

The government is to me the provider of last resort when family and community have failed you. Unfortunately, many these days seem to look to government as the first line provider and they end up frustrated and disappointed.

A trend that I can only see as growing stronger in reliance.

Actually, her threat is illegal, and constitutes harrassment - she is seeking a certain response from you by threatening certain action, that is harrassment. I would definately contact the higher-ups and tell them what happened, and that if any mention of it at any time will result in a harrassment claim.

I am not sure if its outright illegal, if thats true I would love to see a single (and directly relevant) precedent case where that was proven. Overall I agree about making a defensive move in going to the superiors - but not with an initial threat of harassment.

[Isotopia]

I am not sure if its outright illegal, if thats true I would love to see a single (and directly relevant) precedent case where that was proven. Overall I agree about making a defensive move in going to the superiors - but not with an initial threat of harassment.

I don't think that's what I meant to imply. Well, once you remove my tongue-in-cheek threat to kill the family dog. I do believe taking the offensive and addressing the issue honestly and forthrightly to the person's superiors would go a long way towards defusing the issue. Especially so if you framed it in a way that suggests the implicit threat is more eggregious than anything that the person might have done by taking their child to an arts festival.

The best defense is often a good offense. Doing so allows you to often frame the argument/issue in a way that diminishes the initial complaint or threat thereof.

[theCryptofishist]

wow. i am a burner/mom and have taken my oldest to the event 3 times, and my youngest once. i often get a raised eyebrow when i say i bring my kids, but to threatem the AUTHORITIES. fer cryin' out loud... there are worse things happening in HOMES in the city than what my kids see in BRC...

Yeah, but that's keeping it where it belongs...
*fishy pukes in anger*

[blyslv]

[(the novel 1984 was about a left wing government.)

Cites? That is the silliest thing I've ever read on this board. INGSOC transcends notions of "right" and "left" as those labels are used today.

[Fat SAM]

You're right about that Chai. In fact the traditional notions of the nanny state and thought crime come from the left (the novel 1984 was about a left wing government.)

What publisher made the copy your read?!!! Or did you read it? I smell rhetoric. Deee-lish!

[kilngod]

Side B:

My son missed the first 2 days of school to attend BM this yr, our first. (ChaiGuy, did you meet him at BusCamp?) The more common reaction to his "excuse" was one of ENVY, not horror/righteous indignation. Confession: My son is 15 and he doesn't go to private school. Oh, and we live in SoCal, if that's relevant.

This brings up: Having BM on Labor Day weekend means a lot o' teachers cannot ever attend BM because they need to be around for the 1st few days of the Fall term. Admirable, but sad, too, for them individually and because teachers are a group of people you'd really want to send to BM. They should have BM scholarships for teachers. Have They ever considered having it on a different weekend, earlier in the Summer?

Watch out -- the new Supreme Court may ban children from BM.

[geekster]

That comes up from time to time. Actually, if enough teachers and students were "sick" during that period, schools might consider opening after Labor Day. But then we would be talking about a much larger event.

I believe BM was just a labor day weekend event when it first moved to the desert.

[Tay]

What publisher made the copy your read?!!![/b][/i] Or did you read it? I smell rhetoric. Deee-lish!

That's absolutely true. At least according to George Orwell.

[geekster]

The great "left vs. right" thing has been that the left has historically been in a position of people being subordinate to the state and state ownership of resorces, etc. The right is the philosophy that the state is subordinate to the people and about private property rights, etc. In that respect 1984 would clearly be about a leftist state with the government basically being in control of most if not all resources. It was basically a communist dictatorship run amok (and communism being the epitome of leftist political practice).

This is further shown by the rule of The Party in 1984. Clearly a book ment to show what could happen with a single party dictatorship and modern technology. Some might argue that this is close to being the case currently in China with access to outside information closely managed and inside information closely controlled.

[spectabillis]

Cites? That is the silliest thing I've ever read on this board. INGSOC transcends notions of "right" and "left" as those labels are used today.

you goldsteinian, off to room 101 with you.

[joel the ornery]

i am glad i am right of center... othewise, i'd be party to taking personal freedoms away.

with this current administration, they just let the left squander their rights away with silly arguments and inaction.

[joel the ornery]

"A government that is big enough to give you all you want is big enough to take it all away."-Barry Goldwater

"And here we encounter the seeds of government disaster and collapse -- the kind that wrecked ancient Rome and every other civilization that allowed a sociopolitical monster called the welfare state to exist."-Barry Goldwater

"Now those who seek absolute power, even though they seek it to do what they regard as good, are simply demanding the right to enforce their own version of heaven on earth, and let me remind you they are the very ones who always create the most hellish tyranny."
-Barry Goldwater