Monkeypoo wrote:Apollonaris Zeus wrote:Monkeypoo wrote:
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wow, monkeypoo, think about it. you'd be moving up with a guy like this!
HaHa, PissyAss AIIZ. You can TRY to piss on MY parade, but your
venture is fultile,
little man. I don't move up for anyone.
You really are a miserable little buttcheek, aren't you?
8) :P :lol: :P 8)
Some people (or monkeys) have no sense of humor!
I guess humor is evolutionary!
anyway, to those interested in non-snark discussions, I've got the reply from Larry Lahren,
What a suprise to hear from you.
The link states that "he likely died of a clean wound to his left side that nicked one rib but left the others relatively unharmed" the operative term is "relatively" to what? A cross bow is not the instrument to use for comparative tests- too much control and penetration as compared to the simple bow, atlatl or thrusting spear. Our tests, as noted in Homeland and later work with the atlatl indicate a distance of no more that 30 yards for an effective bow shot. And assuming that Cro mag and Neanderthal didn't have bows or atlatls, then the thrusting spear or throwing spear would be the main tool and the effective killing/penetration range of a thrusting/throwing spear is 30 yards or less probably less.
So I think a fire hardened tip on a thrusting spear would have created the "clean" wound they describe, whether he fell on it or was stabbed. But I am not sure how they determined that the wound was in fact fatal.
Like the guy said, "there is a lot of speculation."
Best,
Larry Lahren
If anyone is interested on reading about America's longest and oldest most inhabitated religious clovis point site, this is a great book. It also contain information on flintings and other paleolithic tools and weapons used during its time: Homeland, by Larry Lahren
AIIZ
