News Reports Can Be Confusing -- Nudie Pics too!

[Simon of the Playa]

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check his shit out here

[Trishntek]

Doc Placebo has presented the SCIENTIFIC evidence for climate change that is non-disputable...

Does anything strike you as ironic about this statement? Placebo maybe? I know he's on this board...

BTW... I'm not a skeptic about climate change. It seems to me everybody knows its happening. The only people I've seen dispute it are those reporting on it in the media.

That is the quintessential objective of my point. Why does information have to be filtered, digested and shit out by other people who cannot help but place their own bias on the subject? Instead of telling us what he said or she said, present us with the raw data. True scientific studies and the results with all the variables should be made available to everyone. Especially since it is a study funded by our tax dollars. Kind of like watching Cspan. You get it from the "horse's mouth".

When someone says, "The debate is over." When, where, what, who, why and how was this debate performed?

When someone says, "The debate continues." When, where, what, who, why and how is this debate performed?

I took journalism in high school and this was pretty much covered the first couple days. As has been stated in this thread, true journalism is difficult to find.

[LLQchasm]

oops...thread removed...it was about CSS and his revisionist history...
check his shit out here

At St. Johns they stressed the importance of "primary sources".

[Simon of the Playa]

yes, you are preaching to the choir...


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filth from filth....i should be surprised?



hows that for syntax?

[Elderberry]

Why does information have to be filtered, digested and shit out by other people who cannot help but place their own bias on the subject? Instead of telling us what he said or she said, present us with the raw data. True scientific studies and the results with all the variables should be made available to everyone. Especially since it is a study funded by our tax dollars. Kind of like watching Cspan. You get it from the "horse's mouth".

Because some people not only don't have the background to even understand information that is published in original source format, let alone have the intelligence to separate a credible source from a non-credible one.

Or in other more simple, easier to understand words, they can't even tell if they are getting their information from the horses mouth or the horses ass.

There are far too many people that believe every word that passes the lips of Glen Beck, perfect example of a horses ass and how many uneducated people actually can buy into garbage.

[JStep]

Because, simply put, you said, ",,,but I think,,,". There is no basis in fact presented. Simply another opinion,,,, just an opinion.

That doesn't make sense to me. Simply inserting the words "I think" before the statement "gravity holds us to the ground" doesn't make the statement about gravity merely my opinion, or any less factual.

[JStep]

To completely answer you, provide evidence the debate is over.

Why should I have to, it's common knowledge if you have any understanding of the issue at all. Here, I'll do a little work for you: "No scientific body of national or international standing has maintained a dissenting opinion; the last was the American Association of Petroleum Geologists, which in 2007 updated its 1999 statement rejecting the likelihood of human influence on recent climate with its current non-committal position." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific ... ate_change

Provide evidence the media states the debate continues based upon arguments of equal merit.

Ok, you're just trollling now. I appreciate the fun you're having making me jump through hoops to present to you evidence supporting what you full well know is true. I'm not your monkey, however.

Please demonstrate that what you say is fact.

I'm supposed to believe what you say merely because you say it?

No, you're just supposed to have an ounce of brains in your head and a willingness to admit the obvious without approaching the simplest questions as if we were having a grand philosophical debate. You're posting as if first we have to start with the question of "Do I exist?" then move on to "Do I have free will?" Prove to me that I'm not a brain in a jar being fed this reality, a la The Matrix, then we can move on to other questions. Don't be fracking silly is all I ask.

What makes you different than anyone else? Because what you think is fact in your own mind makes it so?

No... MOUNTAINS OF EVIDENCE DOES! THE LACK OF ANY CREDIBLE REFUTATION OF THE CONCLUSIONS OF SCIENCE DOES! STOP BEING SILLY!

Since the thread is about how confusing news reports can be, I'm simply pointing out how statements without substantiation, such as the ones you put forth, have no merit. In other words, back up what you say with facts instead of what you think.

Interesting, I thought you had turned the thread into being about "Make J-Step run around the web to support every simple, known, obviously factual statement he happens to mention in reference to what used to be subject of the thread, which was how lazy news reporting everything as being equal makes it harder for people to come to correct conclusions."

[gyre]

An example of raw data = polls.
Few understand how to interpret them.
The questions or lack can skew them.
Good surveys always have an error rate and a sampling number listed.

Nonselective polls are also meaningless, as in internet tv polls.

[gyre]

Polls and other statistics.
Everyone should know how to read them.
They affect your lives and your potential life constantly.