Split from the "the best advice for noobs" thread

gyre · Post by **gyre** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 3:52 am

Sorry for not letting everyone assume I meant her.

Again, complaining to the wrong person.

Do you even think about this before you post?

Post by **AntiM** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 5:31 am

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you can be such a tool at times.

Do I feel pins sticking in the voodoo doll of me again? If so, this vendetta behavior is exactly what folks object to. I don't even have to read it, do I?

The best advice to newbs: not every post/thread on eplaya is golden. Do a lot of skimming. If it sucks, don't waste your time on it. If a user bothers you, put them on ignore and move on.

gyre · Post by **gyre** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 5:47 am

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you can be such a tool at times.
Do I feel pins sticking in the voodoo doll of me again? If so, this vendetta behavior is exactly what folks object to. I don't even have to read it, do I?

The best advice to newbs: not every post/thread on eplaya is golden. Do a lot of skimming. If it sucks, don't waste your time on it. If a user bothers you, put them on ignore and move on.

Laughable spin to call your crusade "my vendetta".
Points for artfulness and deception though.

This wasn't about you.
Sorry I had to make that clear, but with your vendetta on here, I thought it was only fair.

gyre · Post by **gyre** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 5:58 am

Poor little you.

You lied and it didn't work.

Just keep dancing.

Some are clearly stupid enough.

ibdave · Post by **ibdave** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 9:11 am

gyre wrote:Poor little you.

You lied and it didn't work.

Just keep dancing.

Some are clearly stupid enough.

Dr Jet Sinister · Post by **Dr Jet Sinister** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 9:34 am

gyre wrote:Poor little you.

You lied and it didn't work.

Just keep dancing.

Some are clearly stupid enough.

JPQ is that you?

It certainly sounds like you. Holding a grudge without merit for (how long now?) too long. Convinced everyone is out to get you. No one is on *your* side.

Why is that?

gyre wrote:I am on forums that are fun without any crap.

Good for you! Why don't you just spend more time there if this one upsets you so?

Dr Jet Sinister · Post by **Dr Jet Sinister** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 9:43 am

delle wrote:Why is this thread empty?

Thank you for this delle!

gyre · Post by **gyre** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 10:11 am

Dr Jet Sinister wrote:JPQ is that you?

It certainly sounds like you. Holding a grudge without merit for (how long now?) too long. Convinced everyone is out to get you. No one is on *your* side.

Why is that?

gyre wrote:I am on forums that are fun without any crap.
Good for you! Why don't you just spend more time there if this one upsets you so?

I'm guessing this is an insult?
What did I say to you?

Responding to lies posted publicly is "holding a grudge without merit" ?

Or are you asking me to quote the things AntiM continues to maintain, without any explanation?

Eplaya trounces someone for asking questions, but lets someone else get away with slinging lies and then weaseling out of any discussion whatsoever?

Pretty funny, huh?

No long grudge.
She lied yesterday, maintains the lies today.

I continue to respond that she is a liar.
That's today.

Isn't it clever how she gets in her paranoid little digs at every opportunity?

Lap it up, if you're so easily fooled.

If you think any of this is attack or vendatta, you really aren't thinking much.
I've seen stronger attacks on eplaya over nothing.

And vendetta?
It clearly applies to the moderator portraying me as a supervillain, but I didn't trot it out, or any of this discussion.
VendettaGirl glosses over that part, doesn't she?

Vendetta?

I don't think I'm the one sounding crazy.

Do some of you read what you post, or does the helmet and cape make it too difficult?

Again, my post wasn't about her.
(I thought I said that in the post.)

I have seen a Quillard posting, but I don't know who they are.

CapSmashy · Post by **CapSmashy** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 10:16 am

gyre wrote:I hear from many people that leave this forum.
The reason is always unpleasantness.

Not everyone is able to come across as they wish to, and text is difficult at best anyway.
You might be surprized at the name that is mentioned the most, as reason for leaving.
(It's not AntiM either, not even close, though she has been mentioned by more than one person.)

Or maybe they are leaving the forum because of fucktards that clog up the threads with a bunch of crybaby bullshit and stories of grand persecution.

Oh yeah, like this thread, a thread stared for veteran burners to offer advice to newbs and that you single handedly took over with your whaaaaa poor little me victimization spotlight.

Take a good long look in the mirror before bitching about others and the detrimental effects you claim they have in participation on this message board.

Dr Jet Sinister · Post by **Dr Jet Sinister** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 10:25 am

gyre wrote:I don't think I'm the one sounding crazy.

Of course you don't. That doesn't make it not completely true.

gyre wrote:She lied yesterday, maintains the lies today.

How about you tell us about this recent lie in your grand prosecution? Since this thread is already all about you now. Share with us how horrible they've been to you.
Perhaps you can convince us.
The floor is yours.

gyre · Post by **gyre** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 10:26 am

Thanks for the support.

I tried to add something productive.
I'm sure your post will be just as helpful to new people.

If someone is determined to read something else into everything I post, it's hard to stay on topic.

Sorry it bothers you that I object to being lied about.
I'm sure it wouldn't bother you.

People have written to me often about this.
Perhaps you should ignore what they said, since they left?

Simon of the Playa · Post by **Simon of the Playa** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 10:36 am

Name names or shut the fuck up gyre.

CapSmashy · Post by **CapSmashy** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 10:41 am

gyre wrote:I tried to add something productive.
I'm sure your post will be just as helpful to new people.

Really? You call what you were posting in here to be productive? How is a bunch of incessant whining about these supposed "injustices" going to be productive for newb to read?

I guess it would be productive in the manner of "Wow, what a tool. Ignore what he has to say".

If someone is determined to read something else into everything I post, it's hard to stay on topic.

Read something into it? That's a hoot. You are the one making far flung accusations and have yet to provide an ounce of substance to back up any of it. All you are doing is making yourself look like a bitter old fool with persecution issues.

Sorry it bothers you that I object to being lied about.
I'm sure it wouldn't bother you.

It doesn't. If I am being lied to I confront that person head on and deal with it, not turn into a little bitch and cry in my cheerios over it.

People have written to me often about this.

Bull. Shit.

Back your shit up or just shut the fuck up already.

gyre · Post by **gyre** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 10:46 am

Dr Jet Sinister wrote:
gyre wrote:I don't think I'm the one sounding crazy.
Of course you don't. That doesn't make it not completely true.

gyre wrote:She lied yesterday, maintains the lies today.
How about you tell us about this recent lie in your grand prosecution? Since this thread is already all about you now. Share with us how horrible they've been to you.
Perhaps you can convince us.
The floor is yours.

They?

What is true is that I was talking about new people's experience, as told to me.

Everything else belongs on another thread.

I have considered starting one, but with no response other than weaseling, I am unsure it would be productive.
Perhaps it would get everything on one page, so to speak?

No new story, just the same one maintained, as is my response, which I wasn't trying to bring up here.
I was just trying to avoid bringing it up here.
That worked swell.

Let's move anything else elsewhere?
I will still discuss anything by email, including things I won't post about.
Happy to talk about it.
Can't make it make sense, because it doesn't.

I saved that post for days, so I could consider if it was accurate.
It is.

I won't name the person named so often by people leaving.
Enough to say, most would be surprized.
It isn't someone that bothers me.

My point is that we are often misunderstood, even with good intent.

Dr Jet Sinister · Post by **Dr Jet Sinister** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 10:47 am

gyre wrote:If someone is determined to read something else into everything I post, it's hard to stay on topic.

Let's see here...

gyre wrote: Hilarious.

I just had a post pulled with no discussion, based on lies from AntiM's Cockroach Club.

No one ever asked me anything, but why would they, when they are only going to lie.

AntiM is an admitted liar.

Worse, vicious just for the sake of being vicious.

For her to be a moderator is high comedy.

If that's the kind of forum you want, you're already there.

gyre wrote: Anyone that didn't have boo to say when she ranted about me being a con man, etc etc really doesn't have anything to say when I respond.

Her lies stand.
So will my responses.

And the whispers and smears continue, only sneakier now.

Bother me when you finish objecting to that.

Sorry, nothing subjective about this at all.

I demanded fair play from her with her lies.
You'd think she would welcome the invitation to back her stories up.

Only more lies and martyrdom.

I'm not fooled.
You can be, if you like.

If you think her behavior is acceptable, don't come to me about my responding.

I am baffled that anyone is fooled by this game of hers.

I care fuck all what someone totally without respect for other people thinks of me.
I won't let her destroy my trust in other people or theirs in me, with her lies, if I can do anything about it though.

You should be asking yourself why you aren't as bothered as I am.

Here's a recap of what you've said in this post. I don't see any misunderstanding about it, thus no one is 'reading' anything into your posts that you didn't type.

So now I'm asking. You think people are sneaking around lying about you? What is this lie or group of lies that has your panties in a bunch? Why isn't there anyone else to ask?

gyre · Post by **gyre** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 10:49 am

CapSmashy wrote: Bull. Shit.

Back your shit up or just shut the fuck up already.

Already did.

I can refer you to the non responses.

CapSmashy · Post by **CapSmashy** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 10:51 am

gyre wrote:
CapSmashy wrote: Bull. Shit.

Back your shit up or just shut the fuck up already.
Already did.

I can refer you to the non responses.

Sure thing Sparky. Where they at.

Dr Jet Sinister · Post by **Dr Jet Sinister** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 10:52 am

gyre wrote: I will still discuss anything by email, including things I won't post about.
Happy to talk about it.

You'll call someone a liar out here, but you only want to discuss details in private? That's some jacked up shit there. Do you take all of us for fools?

Like I said, this thread is already about you. Let's just put it all out on the table.

Don't you think it would be helpful for the noobs to know the real story?

gyre · Post by **gyre** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 10:59 am

gyre wrote:It's worth remembering that many people coming on here, have been burners for a long time.
It should be a concern that so many lurk and don't post.

I hear from many people that leave this forum.
The reason is always unpleasantness.

Not everyone is able to come across as they wish to, and text is difficult at best anyway.
You might be surprized at the name that is mentioned the most, as reason for leaving.
(It's not AntiM either, not even close, though she has been mentioned by more than one person.)

I was referring to this new post.

I thought it might be helpful, but I see no one is really reading it.

I wasn't trying to revive thread drift.
Let's take that elsewhere.

Again, I would never consider naming the person referred to.
Sometimes new people just don't feel welcome.
I try to help, but it isn't clear to me why they are uncomfortable sometimes.
Many people aren't used to the web or forums, but many are.

What I am saying more explicitly is that this forum is misunderstood by people joining sometimes, whch means we all are.

gyre · Post by **gyre** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 11:04 am

Simon of the Playa wrote:Name names or shut the fuck up gyre.

Your name has only come up when you got directly in a fight with someone, once maybe.

Jet -
Not only privately, but there are some things I haven't mentioned on here.

This isn't the thread.

Dr Jet Sinister · Post by **Dr Jet Sinister** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 11:05 am

gyre wrote:
gyre wrote:It's worth remembering that many people coming on here, have been burners for a long time.
It should be a concern that so many lurk and don't post.

I hear from many people that leave this forum.
The reason is always unpleasantness.

Not everyone is able to come across as they wish to, and text is difficult at best anyway.
You might be surprized at the name that is mentioned the most, as reason for leaving.
(It's not AntiM either, not even close, though she has been mentioned by more than one person.)
I was referring to this new post.

I thought it might be helpful, but I see no one is really reading it.

I wasn't trying to revive thread drift.
Let's take that elsewhere.

Again, I would never consider naming the person referred to.
Sometimes new people just don't feel welcome.
I try to help, but it isn't clear to me why they are uncomfortable sometimes.
Many people aren't used to the web or forums, but many are.

What I am saying more explicitly is that this forum is misunderstood by people joining sometimes, whch means we all are.

If you are going to run and not back up your accusations then you should man up and NEVER post about it again. Seriously.
On top of that, no one should ever trust you. You make all these accusations that you're being persecuted and you have NO PROOF or you're too yellow to post any proof. I don't know which is worse.
You are made of fail.

Dr Jet Sinister · Post by **Dr Jet Sinister** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 11:10 am

gyre wrote: Jet -
Not only privately, but there are some things I haven't mentioned on here.

This isn't the thread.

Like it or not. It is now.

CapSmashy · Post by **CapSmashy** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 11:15 am

"gyre"I was referring to this new post.

Ah yes, the one 3 pages in where you started trying to backpeddle when people started calling you on your bullshit?

Not gonna work for ya Sparky.

I thought it might be helpful, but I see no one is really reading it.

When the sum total is looked, are any of your posts worth reading? You drone on incessantly about bullshit minutia in most of them to the point that most people probably want to claw their eyes out about half way through them. Have you ever heard of getting to the fucking point?

Wait, that answer is obviously no.

I wasn't trying to revive thread drift.
Let's take that elsewhere.

Why is that? You already hijacked the fuck out of this thread to make it all about you. You have the floor Sparky, you have our ears. You have a golden opportunity to set the record straight right here, right now.

Either do it or shut the fuck up about it already.

Again, I would never consider naming the person referred to.

Of course you wouldn't because you made that shit up. And now it is just a person? What happened to:
People have written to me often about this.

That's the problem with telling lies. You forget the ones you told even in the same thread you are telling them in.

Sometimes new people just don't feel welcome.
I try to help, but it isn't clear to me why they are uncomfortable sometimes.

This should help clear it up for you. Maybe its because they see some guy whining incessantly in half the threads on the board about how everyone picks on him and his litany of vague accusations about persecution at every turn.

Like I said earlier, take a look in the fucking mirror before accusing others of running people off.

MOD NOTE - had to fix a couple of your brackets you used the "{" instead of the "["
MDMF

Elorrum · Post by **Elorrum** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 11:33 am

Adding more shit, and stirring continuously, ain't gonna make this soup edible. Let's dump the pot out, wash it, and move on. I wouldn't mind if a moderator chose to lock this puppy up, since newcomers might actually think there was some advice here.

Dr Jet Sinister · Post by **Dr Jet Sinister** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 11:36 am

Elorrum wrote:Adding more shit, and stirring continuously, ain't gonna make this soup edible. Let's dump the pot out, wash it, and move on. I wouldn't mind if a moderator chose to lock this puppy up, since newcomers might actually think there was some advice here.

Getting it all out in the open would be a good thing. Perhaps changing the name of the thread would be a different solution?

Elorrum · Post by **Elorrum** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 11:43 am

Dr Jet Sinister wrote:
Elorrum wrote:Adding more shit, and stirring continuously, ain't gonna make this soup edible. Let's dump the pot out, wash it, and move on. I wouldn't mind if a moderator chose to lock this puppy up, since newcomers might actually think there was some advice here.
Getting it all out in the open would be a good thing. Perhaps changing the name of the thread would be a different solution?

I don't think this one is going to end, well or otherwise. name change is a good idea.

lucky.bastard · Post by **lucky.bastard** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 11:48 am

as a noob i have learned a lot from this thread.... that is: if i have a problem with someone i will deal with that person myself and offline

don't sweat the petty..instead pet the sweatty

makes me want to jump on a grenade and ask if i can DJ at anybody's camp

Dr Jet Sinister · Post by **Dr Jet Sinister** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 11:52 am

Elorrum wrote:
Dr Jet Sinister wrote:
Elorrum wrote:Adding more shit, and stirring continuously, ain't gonna make this soup edible. Let's dump the pot out, wash it, and move on. I wouldn't mind if a moderator chose to lock this puppy up, since newcomers might actually think there was some advice here.
Getting it all out in the open would be a good thing. Perhaps changing the name of the thread would be a different solution?
I don't think this one is going to end, well or otherwise. name change is a good idea.

You're probably right about that. I, for one, am sick of running across these hit and run attacks on AntiM for no reason other than attention seeking. Her moderation on this board has always been fair and she doesn't deserve the continued harassment. Moreover, I firmly believe I'm not alone in that opinion.

I do not respond well to passive-aggressive BS and would prefer to just get it out of the way and move on. If he continues to respond the same way and without any proof it will certainly never end.

Dr Jet Sinister · Post by **Dr Jet Sinister** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 11:53 am

lucky.bastard wrote:as a noob i have learned a lot from this thread.... that is: if i have a problem with someone i will deal with that person myself and offline

don't sweat the petty..instead pet the sweatty

makes me want to jump on a grenade and ask if i can DJ at anybody's camp

LOL Are you sure about that? That's a pretty big grenade.

Simon of the Playa · Post by **Simon of the Playa** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 11:55 am

Much ado about bull squat...

Thats all i see gyre...and as a result more than enough rope is at your disposal.

You know what will inevitably occur.