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K-mom · Post by **K-mom** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 11:19 pm

Interesting story coming out of the North American summit meeting in Montebello Quebec w/ Harper, Calderon and Bush. There's a video in the link, I haven't watched it yet.
Serves as a reminder to those who actually protest the pavilion .... watch for signs of betrayal in your midst .... one of you might be working for The Man......

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http://www.thestar.com/News/article/248608
Police accused of using provocateurs at summit
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Aug 21, 2007 09:14 PM
Canadian Press
OTTAWA â€“ Protesters are accusing police of using undercover agents to provoke violent confrontations at the North American leaders' summit in Montebello, Que.

Such accusations have been made before after similar demonstrations but this time the alleged "agents provocateurs" have been caught on camera.

A video, posted on YouTube, shows three young men, their faces masked by bandannas, mingling Monday with protesters in front of a line of police in riot gear. At least one of the masked men is holding a rock in his hand.

The three are confronted by protest organizer Dave Coles, president of the Communications, Energy and Paperworkers Union of Canada. Coles makes it clear the masked men are not welcome among his group of protesters, whom he describes as mainly grandparents. He urges them to leave and find their own protest location.

Coles also demands that they put down their rocks. Other protesters begin to chime in that the three are really police agents. Several try to snatch the bandanas from their faces.

Rather than leave, the three actually start edging closer to the police line, where they appear to engage in discussions. They eventually push their way past an officer, whereupon other police shove them to the ground and handcuff them.

Late Tuesday, photographs taken by another protester surfaced, showing the trio lying prone on the ground. The photos show the soles of their boots adorned by yellow triangles. A police officer kneeling beside the men has an identical yellow triangle on the sole of his boot.

Kevin Skerrett, a protester with the group Nowar-Paix, said the photos and video together present powerful evidence that the men were actually undercover police officers.

"I think the circumstantial evidence is very powerful," he said.

The three do not appear to have been arrested or charged with any offence.

Police confirm that only four protesters were arrested during the summit â€“ two men and two women. All have been charged with obstruction and resisting arrest.

Veteran protester Jaggi Singh, who is helping to circulate the video as widely as possible, said all four of those arrested are known to organizers and are genuine protesters.

"But we see very clearly in that video three (other) men being arrested . . . How do (police) account for these three people being taken in, being arrested? Where did they go?" Singh said.

"I have no hesitation in saying they were police agents . . . and they were caught red-handed."

Singh, a member of the Montreal-based No One is Illegal, believes the agents were meant to provoke a confrontation and give the police an excuse to use some of their "toys," such as tear gas and rubber bullets.

"To a certain extent it's self-fulfilling logic. You provide police with this kind of equipment and they end up using it and one way to justify it is to plant some people that toss a rock or two."

Neither the RCMP nor the Surete du Quebec would comment on the video or even discuss generally whether they ever use the tactic of employing agents provocateurs.

"I cannot answer your question because I don't have the information," said Const. Kane Kramer, a spokesman for the RCMP at the summit.

Finnegan · Post by **Finnegan** » Thu Aug 23, 2007 12:54 pm

http://www.theonion.com/content/video/i ... es_compete?

Apollonaris Zeus · Post by **Apollonaris Zeus** » Mon Aug 27, 2007 10:02 am

Good News, Al Gone-zales has resigned.

Bad news, GWBush: the Destoyer, is still in office

AIIZ

PS- what law officers as provocators! its just job security that's all!

Apollonaris Zeus · Post by **Apollonaris Zeus** » Mon Aug 27, 2007 10:14 pm

I just love it, Republicans getting trashed from alaska to DC and now Idaho with lovely Mr Craig another anti-wilderness pro-wise use rapist!

I see some wilderness bills going through congress after 2008!

Idaho senator pleads guilty after airport arrest
Craig was held in Minneapolis on charges of lewd conduct in men's room
Sen. Larry Craig, R-Idaho, who has denied allegations of homosexual relationships in the past, was arrested after an encounter in the Minneapolis airport in June.

Updated: 8:14 p.m. ET Aug 27, 2007
MINNEAPOLIS - Sen. Larry Craig of Idaho pleaded guilty this month to misdemeanor disorderly conduct after being arrested at the Minneapolis airport.

A Hennepin County court docket showed Craig pleading guilty to the disorderly conduct charge Aug. 8, with the court dismissing a charge of gross misdemeanor interference to privacy.

The court docket said the Republican senator paid $575 in fines and fees. He was put on unsupervised probation for a year. A sentence of 10 days in the county workhouse was stayed.

Roll Call, a Capitol Hill newspaper, which first reported the case, said on its Web site Monday that Craig was arrested June 11 by a plainclothes officer investigating complaints of lewd conduct in a menâ€™s restroom at the airport.

Craig said in a statement issued by his office that he was not involved in any inappropriate conduct.

â€œAt the time of this incident, I complained to the police that they were misconstruing my actions,â€

Bin Noddin · Post by **Bin Noddin** » Mon Aug 27, 2007 10:16 pm

Pathetic, innit?

Apollonaris Zeus · Post by **Apollonaris Zeus** » Tue Aug 28, 2007 4:03 pm

The senator pleads guilty Because he wanted it to just GO AWAY!

Just like Bush's and his Iraq thing

Can't wait to hear the jokes on late night TV!!!

Ya' can just kiss his ass good bye!

Funny how these guys have fought against Gays and now they're being Outed! Who's next in the "Homo's on the Hill" saga?

AIIZ

Vote "Wilderness Bill 2008!!!!!

Bin Noddin · Post by **Bin Noddin** » Wed Aug 29, 2007 6:44 am

And now he's gone and made the obligatory "I'm not gay, I've never been gay, I love my wife" speech. Larry, Larry, Larry: Look in the mirror (yes, it can be an airport bathroom mirror), look your inner queer right in the eye and repeat after me: "there's nothing I like better than a dick in my mouth." Be a mensch, Larry. Show us you can.

K-mom · Post by **K-mom** » Wed Aug 29, 2007 7:50 pm

He's already been there, I think that mantra is part of obligatory Republican hazing when you join .........

can't sit still · Post by **can't sit still** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 5:22 pm

It's generally agreed that power corrupts. But, what direction does it corrupt? You hear all about pages and teenage boys running around the white house. Does POWER make a person lust for a catamite? I think that teenage girls are the most attractive thing there is. If I become a senator, am I going to switch over to lusting after teenage boys?

Now I'm worried.

Apollonaris Zeus · Post by **Apollonaris Zeus** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 8:52 pm

Mitt wins the straw poll!

Took almost all of his money to buy those vote @ $35 a pop!

I remember when all it took was beer!

Votes were cheap back then

AIIZ

can't sit still · Post by **can't sit still** » Wed Sep 12, 2007 6:37 pm

Gallows humor; http://rense.com/general78/dollar.htm

can't sit still · Post by **can't sit still** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 4:15 pm

This is a breathtaking account of the current problems, especially as they relate to Iran, Putin and Mexico. http://www.isecureonline.com/Reports/DR ... 2&l=819607

This narrative brings a whole new meaning to the term "push comes to shove" Dan

DVD Burner · Post by **DVD Burner** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 1:14 am

Hey! Wheres Joel?

He hasn't posted in months.

He cant be that disappointed in politics just yet.

cowboyangel · Post by **cowboyangel** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 12:34 pm

Joel's busy doing what the rest of us should be doing...working and getting laid....

can't sit still · Post by **can't sit still** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 5:07 pm

"..working and getting laid...."
Damn, I knew something was missing. I'm just working.

DVD Burner · Post by **DVD Burner** » Wed Oct 17, 2007 9:36 am

Well good for him.

He's earned it.

I still miss him though.

can't sit still · Post by **can't sit still** » Wed Oct 17, 2007 7:44 pm

Well, I finally see a ray of hope. We may be on the verge of world peace,,,, strange as it may sound. Bush is talking about WW III. He's always wrong. Putin is the man who makes the decisions that affect the west. Israel is finally going to be shoved into a corner. They've been the impetus for many of the recent wars. Europe can no longer support israel. Putin said that he would turn off the natural gas line [Gazprom] Great Britian is at the end of that line and could be easily cut off.

The US is fast becoming a paper tiger. We're bankrupt and the world knows it. Just as France had to accept a diminished role when other countries grew in power, the US has the same destiny. We can no longer afford to support hundreds of military bases, many in foreign countries.

The US knows this and all of a sudden Condi is talking about the creation of a Palestinian state. Europe is very tired of the brutality of Israel.
China is also very aware of our weaknesses, both militarily and financially. All of a sudden, Taiwan wants to talk about peace talks with China. Our fleet is down to 1/3 of what it once was,,,, and it can't defend itself against modern missles. The balance of power is shifting away from the US and the world is adjusting to the new reality. Even Korea is talking about raproachment and peace.
Pax Americana recently turned to Pox Americana. We over-reached and now we've fallen. Where the US tried to create a military based hegemon, China is creating a trade based hegemon. It's far more effecient. Russia, China and Central Asia control so much of the world's remaining oil that the US will be beggared in a decade or so.

I don't like seeing MY country beggared, but that is where our leaders took us. OUR leaders sold arms to both sides just to destabilise the world,,, and sell more arms. We're the merchants of death. OUR leaders poisoned the world with DU. OUR leaders killed uncounted millions to steal the resources.
Part of the guilt can be apportioned to the military-industrial complex. Part of the guilt can be apportioned to leaders who wanted to create an empire. Part of the guilt can be apportioned to Israel for their intransigence. That intransigence is being tempered by the increasing weakness of the US. Israel is now talking about dividing Jerusalem. There is plenty of both death and guilt to go around.
I hope to see both Israel and Palestine have their own country and take their appropriate place in the world.
The times,, they are a changing, Dan

cowboyangel · Post by **cowboyangel** » Wed Oct 17, 2007 8:43 pm

self reliant communities...Larry's only 7 days right....

Toolmaker · Post by **Toolmaker** » Wed Oct 17, 2007 9:21 pm

cowboyangel wrote:self reliant communities...Larry's only 7 days right....

I don't think they'll let us do anything longer. Too many laws making freedom and liberty illegal. I think anyone who desires freedom these days is considered a terrorist.

can't sit still · Post by **can't sit still** » Thu Oct 18, 2007 8:08 am

It seems perverse, but economic ruin in the US may be the only thing that limits the excesses of bad gov.

Ugly Dougly · Post by **Ugly Dougly** » Thu Oct 18, 2007 10:28 am

The Republican candidates for President are going to be debating in...
...Berkeley?

Now, why would they choose Berkeley for a Republican event? What were they thinking???
Maybe they hope to convert some of the commonisk Hippies over thar.

cowboyangel · Post by **cowboyangel** » Thu Oct 18, 2007 5:49 pm

the homeless and the street urchins kicked the commies out a long time ago....

Lassen Forge · Post by **Lassen Forge** » Fri Oct 19, 2007 5:51 am

Well, lets see... A buku boatload of free press? They want to show how evil the liberals are. I bet they are hoping for a riot - just what the RP needs, free press. Wasn't Nixon elected after a riot during a meet of Republicans?

Don't put it past them - remember "dirty tricks"...

A shitload of conservative bucks there - like it or not, Berkeley is also the hime for huge dollar conservatives. Doubt it? Try living there for a while. You can *feel* the financial entitlement pour off of them. That's why Berkeley - plus, they have the stormtrooper law enforcement to really **CRUSH** anyone who dares try anything.

DVD Burner · Post by **DVD Burner** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 4:51 pm

can't sit still wrote: Israel is now talking about dividing Jerusalem. There is plenty of both death and guilt to go around.
I hope to see both Israel and Palestine have their own country and take their appropriate place in the world.
The times,, they are a changing, Dan

What what what whatttt?

Israel is about to do what?

Wait a minute, I said that would happen a year ago in this thread and Mr. K. said "nope, not gonna happen".

Kinetik V · Post by **Kinetik V** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 4:59 pm

I said it then and I say it now. It ain't a gonna happen.

You'll see all out war first, and of course in the fog of war anything and everything is possible. So militarily it's possible. But to be politically separated? Nah, there's no leadership with the testicular fortitude necessary to do the job.

DVD Burner · Post by **DVD Burner** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 5:39 pm

We'll see.

I predicted it would happen by the end of this year or the middle of next.

Any takers?

DVD Burner · Post by **DVD Burner** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 5:41 pm

In the mean time, here's a funny one:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21427332/

Blackwater accused of tax evasion

By Stephanie Kirchgaessner in Washington
Updated: 27 minutes ago

Blackwater USA, the security company that has come under intense scrutiny on Capitol Hill after a September 16 incident in which it allegedly opened fire on Iraqi civilians and killed 17, was accused on Monday by a senior Democratic lawmaker of evading tens of millions of dollars in federal taxes.

Henry Waxman, chairman of the House oversight committee, who is leading congressional investigations into Blackwater, said that a newly discovered March 2007 ruling by the Internal Revenue Service, the tax authority, found that Blackwater's designation of one of its employees as an "independent contractor" was "without merit".

Unlike two other security companies operating in Afghanistan and Iraq, Blackwater has said it designates its workers contractors, not employees, because it is a "model that works" and because its guards prefer the "flexibility" of the contractor relationship.
The arrangement has, according to Mr Waxman, wrongly allowed Blackwater to avoid paying social security and Medicare taxes, as well as federal income and unemployment tax - or $32m (Â£16m) in taxes from May 2006 to March 2007.

The IRS ruling was issued after a single security guard approached the tax authority after a dispute over back pay and other compensation. Although the ruling, which is based on Blackwater exercising control over its worker, applied only to the individual, the IRS alerted Blackwater that it could apply to others.

Blackwater, which has classified 604 security guards as contractors, agreed a settlement with the employee after the ruling. That included a confidentiality agreement that prohibited the employee from contacting "any politician" or "public official" about its details.

"It is deplorable that a company that depends on federal tax dollars for 90 per cent of its business would even contemplate forbidding an employee to report corporate wrongdoing to Congress," Mr Waxman said in a letter to Erik Prince, Blackwater chairman and CEO.

He further alleged that the confidentiality agreement was "particularly suspect" because it was signed by Blackwater general counsel Andrew Howell just as Mr Waxman's committee was stepping up its investigation into Blackwater's activities.

Blackwater said that Mr Waxman's assertions were "incorrect" and took issue with his use of the IRS decision, against which the company has appealed.

The company said the IRS had not made a final determination on the employee and the Small Business Administration had decided Blackwater security contractors were not employees.
Copyright The Financial Times Ltd. All rights reserved.

DVD Burner · Post by **DVD Burner** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 5:42 pm

Go figure!

cowboyangel · Post by **cowboyangel** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 9:21 pm

who planted and planned the controlled demolition of WTC7?

see: Blackwater.

can't sit still · Post by **can't sit still** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 9:31 pm

In a perfect world, Blackwater would oversee the execution of millions of evil politicians and bankers,,,etc and then drown in the resulting blood.

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