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Post by gyre » Thu Jan 08, 2009 4:39 pm

Are you talking about the digital to analog boxes?
They aren't the same as the cable dvrs or the personal versions.
They don't rebate any tuner that has hidef or surround sound or even digital output.

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Post by gyre » Mon Jan 12, 2009 10:52 pm

Getting cheaper phone service and oddly it has bluetooth and an MP3 player.
Any advice on using this?
It's a VE240 and the main sheet says it supports MP3, AAC and AAC+.
Other places indicate it supports MP3,AAC, AAC+, AMR NB, MIDI, or iMelody.
I could have sworn I found reference to wma too, but I can't find it now.
Anyone know?
What's the best format for sound quality, other than obviously not MP3?
It uses up to a 4gb micro sd card.
I don't know if that means sdhc or not.
Any advice on transferring music from analog to riff for storage or to an MP3 format?


Any suggestions on stereo bluetooth?
Should I bother?

This also has push to talk.
Anyone care to explain this?
I read some about it and I don't get it.
Is this a good thing?

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Post by mdmf007 » Tue Jan 13, 2009 1:26 am

Yeah thats the problem. It has the hi def sound.

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Post by gyre » Tue Jan 13, 2009 1:34 am

mdmf007 wrote:Yeah thats the problem. It has the hi def sound.
What did you get?

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Post by Dork » Tue Jan 13, 2009 2:19 am

gyre wrote:Getting cheaper phone service and oddly it has bluetooth and an MP3 player.
Any advice on using this?
It's a VE240 and the main sheet says it supports MP3, AAC and AAC+.
Other places indicate it supports MP3,AAC, AAC+, AMR NB, MIDI, or iMelody.
I could have sworn I found reference to wma too, but I can't find it now.
Anyone know?
What's the best format for sound quality, other than obviously not MP3?
It uses up to a 4gb micro sd card.
I don't know if that means sdhc or not.
Any advice on transferring music from analog to riff for storage or to an MP3 format?


Any suggestions on stereo bluetooth?
Should I bother?

This also has push to talk.
Anyone care to explain this?
I read some about it and I don't get it.
Is this a good thing?
I use MP3 at 196 give or take for everything just because that's what I started using years ago. It will play on anything and the quality is just fine - the problem is the file sizes are a bit larger. If getting 120 albumns on the card instead of just 80 then certainly go for AAC and spend a little more time experimenting with bitrates.

I haven't done the bluetooth thing yet. Not having wires just isn't that important to me. I use Etymotic er6i's when I want noise deadenning, Sennheiser PMX200's when I don't.

Any 4G or lower micro SD will work. Higher than 4 might even work, but you'd have to check around on that. Be sure to get the micro SD, which are the really tiny ones, not a regular SD or SDHC card.

What type of analog to digital conversion are you doing? If you have CDs it's already digital. Just about any media player will be able to rip it into MP3 or whatever you choose. Capturing from a tape, vinyl, radio, etc is a little more involved.

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Post by gyre » Tue Jan 13, 2009 3:08 am

Is there more than one kind of analog?
My material is on vinyl and various tape formats, including fm analog on videotape.
I only have cds where no analog copy was available.

I just want to use the best quality format I can use on this player.
Chips are now very cheap, if you aren't looking for high speed.
If one format is more efficient, I'd be happy to use that.
I think a 320 bit rate works.

This is a micro sd card.
I think there is also mini and standard.
The sdhc thing is a little unclear.
I am not sure if all 4 gb cards are sdhc or not.
All 8gb seem to be sdhc.
The phone is rated to 4 gb anyhow.

Aren't cds in mpeg 2?
I want to store everything in some lossless format on the computer.
Would this be riff?
CDs have to be converted to a different format, don't they, for mp3 players?

Is AAC better or just a more compressed format?

The entire premise of leaving out part of the music because no one will notice makes my skin crawl.
I won't even mix stereo to mono subwoofers, because I know you can tell the difference.

At least the bluetooth is set up for stereo.

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Post by Dork » Tue Jan 13, 2009 3:39 am

Yes, any SD card above 2 gig will be SDHC. If you want to assure all of the information is saved, flac seems like the way to go. It's free, open source, and gives some size compression without losing any bits. Not all players can handle it though, so you'd need one copy in flac and another in whatever else you choose.

It looks like AAC+ may be your best choice:
http://www.soundexpert.info/coders320.jsp
OGG seems to rate the highest of all when it's tested, but not a lot of devices support it.

CDs are stored as raw uncompressed data. You'll have to convert them to something when ripping.

The type of analog source doesn't matter so much - basically you'll need to feed a line level signal into your sound card, record it, chop it up into pieces and label it. I haven't done this in years so I don't know what programs are out there. If it's a commercially available recording you might check torrent sites first to see if there's a flac or high bitrate copy out there already rather than going through the trouble and not getting a great result.

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Post by gyre » Tue Jan 13, 2009 5:09 am

I know the AAC is compatible at least.
I don't know about flac.

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Post by ygmir » Tue Jan 13, 2009 5:38 am

wow, you guys sure know this stuff.......

hahaha,
if I were listening to you, though, you'd sound like Charlie Browns teacher on "Peanuts" cartoons.......
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Post by Dork » Tue Jan 13, 2009 8:32 am

gyre wrote:I know the AAC is compatible at least.
I don't know about flac.
Flac is more for keeping a "master copy" on your computer, or for listening directly from your computer. Few devices support it.

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Post by Box Burner » Tue Jan 13, 2009 8:42 am

Just FYI. FLAC seems to be supported by LINUX. At least I did not have to do anything to get them to play.
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Post by fciron » Tue Jan 13, 2009 12:41 pm

FLAC and ogg vorbis are the open source codecs so they can actually be a problem on commercial stuff. My son has never figured out how to get itunes to play all of the .ogg files I gave him.

Bluetooth. Most phones have a 'headset' jack not a 'headphones' jack. It is slightly smaller than the 1/8" headphone plug and uses one of the channels for the microphone. I think you need the bluetooth to listen to your music in anything approaching decent sound. (bluetooth headset or car stereo.)

I don't know if this is still an issue: The specs on the SD format only go up to 2GB but when memory got smaller and as the SDHC format was being developed there were 4GB (and maybe bigger) SD format cards made. I have one and I cannot get anything to work with it.

If you're using micro-SD then I think that there is only one format and you should be safe.

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Post by gyre » Wed Jan 14, 2009 10:01 am

Even if you have the right card, I think you still have to have a device that supports the size.

That's an interesting question about the jack.
The motorola has one, but I don't know if it's stereo or not.

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Post by mdmf007 » Wed Jan 14, 2009 5:04 pm

Yup they make em I shoot video on 8gb cards in hidef
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Post by gyre » Fri Jan 16, 2009 9:02 am

I confirmed that the headphone jack is stereo.

I think all 4gb cards are sdhc.
They say a larger card won't work.
I found a 4gb card for $13.

I confirmed the formats are MP3, AAC, AAC+, AMR, midi and IMelody.

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Post by DVD Burner » Fri Jan 16, 2009 9:13 am

motorola Bluetooth® Stereo Headphones

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Mind you, these are not the only Headphones Motorola makes.

they sell a really good pair in of all places, Radioshack.
in fact, radioshack has been the only ones I have been able to find the other Motorola headsets and one other good set of in expensive decent bluetooth stereo headphones. they all come with a built in mic and do push to talk
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Post by gyre » Fri Jan 16, 2009 9:25 am

I was referring to the physical jack.
There have been phones with mono jacks and stereo bluetooth and vice versa.

Comfortel has been a great source for headsets for me.
I always start there and look at plantronics first.

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Post by DVD Burner » Fri Jan 16, 2009 9:29 am

gyre wrote:I was referring to the physical jack.
There have been phones with mono jacks and stereo bluetooth and vice versa.

Comfortel has been a great source for headsets for me.
I always start there and look at plantronics first.
Plantronics have been sounding good?
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Post by gyre » Fri Jan 16, 2009 9:35 am

I haven't tried them for music, but their phone companders are amazing.
Love their stuff.
I have a phone set that even has tone controls.
Input and output levels and impedance controls.

I need a voip adapter.

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Post by wedeliver » Sun Jan 18, 2009 7:02 pm

gyre wrote:I haven't tried them for music, but their phone companders are amazing.
Love their stuff.
I have a phone set that even has tone controls.
Input and output levels and impedance controls.

I need a voip adapter.
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Post by gyre » Sun Jan 18, 2009 7:52 pm

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The headset plugs into this.
I have a larger desktop unit too.
They make wireless versions that you can dial out on and I don't know how fancy the bluetooth gets, but I think this is a remote control.
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Post by mdmf007 » Mon Jan 19, 2009 12:46 am

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Area code 234 (Ohio)

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Post by ygmir » Thu Jan 29, 2009 9:24 pm

ok, so, I hope this is the right spot:

sometimes, my keyboard will change.
It seems the computer is reading a "g" when I push "l", or, whatever combo.......
And, then, of course, I can't type, or, finish typing what I was on......
very frustrating.......
it only happens sometimes, and, if I shut and re-start Firefox, it usually fixes it.......but, I lose what I was working on.....

anyone have an idea WTF?

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Post by gyre » Thu Jan 29, 2009 9:31 pm

That does happen.
I always figured it was a combination crappy keyboards and windows de-evolution.

Can't you save what you're working on?

You know you can defrag and then restore the session with firefox...usually.

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Post by wedeliver » Thu Jan 29, 2009 9:52 pm

ygmir wrote:ok, so, I hope this is the right spot:

sometimes, my keyboard will change.
It seems the computer is reading a "g" when I push "l", or, whatever combo.......
And, then, of course, I can't type, or, finish typing what I was on......
very frustrating.......
it only happens sometimes, and, if I shut and re-start Firefox, it usually fixes it.......but, I lose what I was working on.....

anyone have an idea WTF?

thanks,
Uninstall and reinstall firefox. Are you firefox V 3 running Vista?

(and just to make sure, what you mean above is when you type a letter g the screen will display the letter l (as in lmn L) does it do the same thing if you use caps? Are the keys always redefined the same way. Is the g always an l? Either way, if it happens nowhere else, and you do use other programs to enter text, then it must be firefox.)
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Post by ygmir » Thu Jan 29, 2009 9:58 pm

v-3.05 and xp..........

I've not figured if it's always the same configuration to the error.......

I've not tried to save, not sure I know how.......I'm not such a good computer person.....dang.........
Haven't tried with caps, either........
I know it works fine on email, but, fails on Firefox......unless, I re-start Firefox........

I'll try you guy's ideas, thanks.
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Post by DVD Burner » Fri Jan 30, 2009 1:48 am

ygmir wrote:ok, so, I hope this is the right spot:

sometimes, my keyboard will change.
It seems the computer is reading a "g" when I push "l", or, whatever combo.......
And, then, of course, I can't type, or, finish typing what I was on......
very frustrating.......
it only happens sometimes, and, if I shut and re-start Firefox, it usually fixes it.......but, I lose what I was working on.....

anyone have an idea WTF?

thanks,


Personally speaking, to me it sounds like you are on a laptop.

If so, I believe I know what the solution is, but it is up to you if you really want a solution from me if you indeed are using a laptop.

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Post by ygmir » Fri Jan 30, 2009 5:13 am

nope, not a laptop.........thanks though.
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Post by gyre » Fri Jan 30, 2009 5:20 am

Note that if you continue the same firefox session long enough it begins to glitch and will eventually crash.
Defragging can give you some time to save material and closing unneeded windows helps too.
But you eventually have to start a new session.
I don't know if this is your issue.

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