The Bar... Volume#2

Elorrum · Post by **Elorrum** » Sun Oct 11, 2009 7:29 am

littleflower wrote:

diphthong ... what an excellent word ... don't bother with hawaiian or other pacific languages .

adding new meaning, or not, to "you can ring my bell..."

in Fijian they don't write two consonants together. I had difficulty with the consonants that had between/combined sounds. 'B" sort of has a soft m sound at the beginning. The missionaries when writing the language assigned the letter Q to the sound of ng... like si"ng" Try starting a word with that sound. Qamea. The letter C represents a TH sound. I saw a tv travelogue yesterday on the town I lived in... the host didn't even try to pronounce things correctly. He asked what copra was used for, and his "guide" said, ice cream. I love Fijian humor. The guy didn't do any research, and I bet he thinks copra makes ice cream. It also points back to what little we actually know about a place from such a cursory examination. And yet that information may one day be the only reference.

ygmir · Post by **ygmir** » Sun Oct 11, 2009 8:41 am

hey everyone............

well, back up after a quick little sleep............

I went to the Camp Isparatum decom party last night in Sac.

What fun........sevral art cars, fire displays, fire spinning, a fashion show........free flowing liquor...........

it had it all..........and, above all, wonderful people............

thanks so much to CI (and, Doc Pyro, who "invited" me), for great night.......

and, as I was being the clever, witty ( at least half), and socially appropriate fellow that I am, I now apologize to several folks..........

I even got hit up by a couple of seeming "frat boys", carrying empty liquor bottles, looking for "E".......hahaha, until they said "E", I didn't know what they were talking about..........and then they waddled off.......

*edit for frat boy story*
*and then spellign*

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Sun Oct 11, 2009 9:41 am

Elorrum wrote: I'm not familiar with what Bulwer-Lytton said about Pompeii,

He wrote a novel called The Last Days of Pompeii. If sure it was the usual victorian silliness. I guess the main characters become christians.

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Sun Oct 11, 2009 9:44 am

ygmir wrote:try Finnish...................egad......

Maybe that's why Finntroll sings in Swedish.

ygmir · Post by **ygmir** » Sun Oct 11, 2009 9:51 am

theCryptofishist wrote:
ygmir wrote:try Finnish...................egad......
Maybe that's why Finntroll sings in Swedish.

I thought it had to do with the old parable:

"you are what you eat"........

littleflower · Post by **littleflower** » Sun Oct 11, 2009 10:44 am

theCryptofishist wrote:
littleflower wrote: it's pompeii ... what are you reading?

It's called The Fires of Pompeii. It's really pretty good. She basically, well, it's not debunking, because she doesn't really prove or disprove things, but she has a continuing commentary on what people think it means, and about how they sort of bring their biases and worldview into their interpretation. It's not like she spends more than a couple of sentances on Bulwer Lytton, but they are important sentances, because whatever her thesis is--and I'm not sure--one of the more important threads in her discussion is that we can't really "know" what Pompeii--or Rome was like.

i find that interesting ... i agree that we can't really know what it was like, but ... for a scholar to say that? it almost undermines her profession, i think. why study things if we can't really understand them, anyhow?

i'm not criticizing, just musing over this.

i've always loved this terry gilliam bit:
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i hope you make it to pompeii, pinemom ... it is fascinating. italy is a blast, a fun, crazy, gorgeous place.

fiji, elorrum? i would love to hear more about that! what were you doing in fiji?

Simon of the Playa · Post by **Simon of the Playa** » Sun Oct 11, 2009 11:22 am

from the last days of pompeii, starring Steve Reeve.

Risky · Post by **Risky** » Sun Oct 11, 2009 12:04 pm

mmmmmmmmm yummy

Elorrum · Post by **Elorrum** » Sun Oct 11, 2009 12:14 pm

A gorgeous man, and yet few babies born in 1959 were named GLAUCUS.

sputnik · Post by **sputnik** » Sun Oct 11, 2009 2:06 pm

Hey all!

she's a cutie

Anyway, just finished chores and am sitting here with a glass of wine, but the wine bottle is empty. OTOH the sake bottle is pretty full, so I'll be switching a bit later. Can I interest anyone?

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Sun Oct 11, 2009 8:53 pm

littleflower wrote:
theCryptofishist wrote:
littleflower wrote: it's pompeii ... what are you reading?

It's called The Fires of Pompeii. It's really pretty good. She basically, well, it's not debunking, because she doesn't really prove or disprove things, but she has a continuing commentary on what people think it means, and about how they sort of bring their biases and worldview into their interpretation. It's not like she spends more than a couple of sentances on Bulwer Lytton, but they are important sentances, because whatever her thesis is--and I'm not sure--one of the more important threads in her discussion is that we can't really "know" what Pompeii--or Rome was like.
i find that interesting ... i agree that we can't really know what it was like, but ... for a scholar to say that? it almost undermines her profession, i think. why study things if we can't really understand them, anyhow?

Well, we can know somethings. A lot of what she was complaining about is poor archeology. For instance there are three buildings in the Pompeii Forum that are believed to be temples of the Imperial Cult. One of them has a statue of Augustus, so that's alright. ONe is completely empty, not clue as to what it was for, or what happened there. Somebody made up a story because they wanted to have something to say about that building. And there's just oodles of that crap going on. Did Pompeii have more than 150 brothels? Did Pompeii have just one brothel? And her question is more like "How was prostitution practiced in Pompeii?" I'm not explaining it well, but it really is a good book.

littleflower · Post by **littleflower** » Sun Oct 11, 2009 9:59 pm

i almost bought that book several months ago, but decided to save my money ... now i wish i had. pretty amazing stuff. there was a brothel in pompeii that was part of the tour, they had paintings, pictures of various positions, all around... and stone beds that were very small! amazing stuff.

those phallus things were apparently all over the place ... they believe they were believed to keep evil spirits away ... but that may just be an example of someone's imagination.

i wonder if sputnik finished the sake yet ...

Deb Prothero · Post by **Deb Prothero** » Sun Oct 11, 2009 10:12 pm

I wonder what they drank in Pompeii? Probably wine.

Back home now from my adventures in Woodstock. Time to prepare for Canadian Thanksgiving dinner tomorrow. Turkey with the fixings, pumpkin pie. Spiced cider to drink.

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Sun Oct 11, 2009 10:27 pm

Deb Prothero wrote:I wonder what they drank in Pompeii? Probably wine.

Definitely wine. Often mixed with water. Cause that was water you didn't want to drink "neat."

Simon of the Playa · Post by **Simon of the Playa** » Sun Oct 11, 2009 10:43 pm

not to get off subject, but actually a slight tangent since someone somewhere whether it was the sybil or cassandra foretold of vesuvio blowing his top.

this link i found while scavenging bits and pieces of found art.

it's too fucking funny not to share...

have fun.

http://www.newprophecy.net/2009part1.htm#Madonna

www.newprophecy.net/2009part1.htm

Deb Prothero · Post by **Deb Prothero** » Sun Oct 11, 2009 11:07 pm

Madonna and Lady GaGa in the Thunderdome!

Roberto Dobbisano · Post by **Roberto Dobbisano** » Sun Oct 11, 2009 11:41 pm

i hear daft punk will be playing.

Deb Prothero · Post by **Deb Prothero** » Sun Oct 11, 2009 11:46 pm

"Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger"

ygmir · Post by **ygmir** » Mon Oct 12, 2009 6:42 am

*strolling in*

hey, anyone up?

*makes coffee, sets up breakfast*

pinemom · Post by **pinemom** » Mon Oct 12, 2009 7:12 am

Good morning....

Its Monday.

Hmmm.

Brothels in Pompeii....sounds about right...but sexuality was so much more open in that era...there really wasnt anything taboo about homosexuality...you just loved.
Damn Christians.

gyre · Post by **gyre** » Mon Oct 12, 2009 7:24 am

Did you really cook breakfast like that?
Or is it really sardiines on crackers again?

Now I want pastries.

you've made me unhappy with my mango ice cream for breakfast.
You know, breakfast of champions.

ygmir · Post by **ygmir** » Mon Oct 12, 2009 7:43 am

yeah, just a little something I threw together........although, the decorations are from my outfit from last night............

pinemom · Post by **pinemom** » Mon Oct 12, 2009 7:47 am

yeah...you always go with the tree costume!

Cause you know how many tree huggers are out there!
and so many like to TRIM!

WEEE haw...Im so not funny today.?.~

ygmir · Post by **ygmir** » Mon Oct 12, 2009 7:49 am

hahaha, so true.....

pinemom · Post by **pinemom** » Mon Oct 12, 2009 7:52 am

haha...Titwi LOVES being a tree!

We even included a chain, one party, for those really dedicated to the cause!

ygmir · Post by **ygmir** » Mon Oct 12, 2009 7:59 am

ah, the mighty oak..............

"under the spreading chestnut tree, the village smithy stands.........."

littleflower · Post by **littleflower** » Mon Oct 12, 2009 8:32 am

good choice, standing next to a fire hydrant ... just in case a dog wanders by ...

gyre · Post by **gyre** » Mon Oct 12, 2009 8:48 am

Great outfit.

Simon of the Playa · Post by **Simon of the Playa** » Mon Oct 12, 2009 8:54 am

yes, a real treet.

ygmir · Post by **ygmir** » Mon Oct 12, 2009 8:58 am

Simon of the Playa wrote:yes, a real treet.

I SAW that one coming..............

I should have axed first..........

you have such a limber mind..........

for a guy from root society, anyway.............