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Post by Canoe » Mon Feb 28, 2022 10:34 am

The Russian MoD said that only officers and contract soldiers are taking part in the operation in Ukraine, not conscripts.
Russia has begun deploying more military reserve troops in and around Ukraine today, per a statement from Ukraine's defense ministry.
According to @tvrain
reporting numerous people across Russia of all ages are being called to enlisting offices. Reportedly Russians are being proposed to sign military contracts and/or join the reserves.
Despite claim Chechen out of Ukraine fight
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In Kyiv, a large group of Russian saboteurs was detained near the Zhulyany airport, some of them dressed in Ukrainian military uniforms.

https://twitter.com/Vitaliy23404583/sta ... 2429191178
Trying to keep injured civilians alive
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READ THIS VERY IMPORTANT INTERVIEW:

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Reynolds: And then there’s the nuclear element. Many people have thought that we’d never see a large ground war in Europe or a direct confrontation between NATO and Russia, because it could quickly escalate into a nuclear conflict. How close are we getting to that?

Hill: Well, we’re right there. Basically, what President Putin has said quite explicitly in recent days is that if anybody interferes in Ukraine, they will be met with a response that they’ve “never had in [their] history.” And he has put Russia’s nuclear forces on high alert. So he’s making it very clear that nuclear is on the table.

Putin tried to warn Trump about this, but I don’t think Trump figured out what he was saying. In one of the last meetings between Putin and Trump when I was there, Putin was making the point that: “Well you know, Donald, we have these hypersonic missiles.” And Trump was saying, “Well, we will get them too.” Putin was saying, “Well, yes, you will get them eventually, but we’ve got them first.” There was a menace in this exchange. Putin was putting us on notice that if push came to shove in some confrontational environment that the nuclear option would be on the table.

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Post by Canoe » Mon Feb 28, 2022 1:00 pm

With the degree of widespread sanctions across Europe, and looking at NATO, I believe that I'm not understating things when I say that I think the world has changed from what we knew.
Switzerland adopts wholesale EU sanctions against Russia
Measures do not undermine neutrality principle as Switzerland says it is acting in defence of international law

Switzerland, a bastion of neutrality through two world wars, has decided to adopt wholesale swingeing EU sanctions against Russia, potentially freezing billions of dollars in assets and further increasing the pressure on the Russian economy. Swiss national bank data showed that Russian companies and individuals held assets worth more than $11bn in Swiss banks in 2020. The Federal Council also announced it had banned five oligarchs close to Vladimir Putin from entering the country. Flights from Russia are being banned, although this will not apply to flights carrying diplomats. “Never since the second world war has the rights of one country been so violated by another. You cannot stand aside. To play into the hands of an aggressor is not neutral.”

The government is not imposing a ban on commodity trading. Nearly 80% of Russian commodity trading takes place virtually via financial service centres in Switzerland. Russian energy and raw materials groups such as Gazprom and Russian state banks have major branches in Switzerland. The Bank for International Settlements (BIS), the Swiss-based global financial umbrella body nicknamed the “bank for central banks”, has said it will not be an avenue for any circumvention of western sanctions placed on Russia for invading Ukraine.

Formally, the measures do not undermine that widely supported neutrality principle, as Switzerland says it is acting in defence of international law, but Moscow is hardly likely to accept that explanation.

Meanwhile Finland has taken the “historic” decision to supply weapons to Ukraine, the country’s government announced. Finland is a member of the EU but not of Nato, although it does have partnership status with the US-led military alliance.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/ ... nst-russia
‘The damage is done’: Russians face economic point of no return
Shoppers and business people express despair and disillusion as sanctions cause run on rouble

As markets opened in a panic on Monday, many Russians rushed to local cashpoints in Moscow to retrieve their savings before the damage got any worse. “It said they had dollars so I came here immediately,” said Alexei Presnyakov, 32, pointing to an app for Russia’s Tinkoff Bank, indicating he could withdraw hard currency. About 20 people were queued in line. “Yesterday [the rate] was 80 [to the dollar]. Today it’s 100. Or 150. I just made a spontaneous decision today that I would ask [out of work] and go around until I took out all my money,” he said. “Before it was worth zero.” Within minutes, however, the word traveled down the queue: the dollars were gone. Nearly half the queue walked off. “Who needs roubles?” one woman said sarcastically as she walked away.

From shopping malls to corporate boardrooms, Russians were trying to find their footing on Monday in what the Kremlin described as the “altered economic reality” that the country was now facing following sanctions on Russia’s Central Bank and other key financial institutions. The Moscow Exchange, Russia’s largest stock market, has halted trading until 5 March.

With its reserves frozen, the Central Bank announced it would more than double its main interest rates to 20%, the highest this century, and force major exporting companies, including large energy producers like Gazprom and Rosneft, to sell 80% of their foreign currency revenues, effectively buying roubles to prop up the currency rate.

Several owners of mid-sized companies said that the invasion and subsequent isolation of Russia had made their businesses unprofitable overnight. One, the owner of an advertising services company with 100 employees, said that he was about to announce to his employees this afternoon that he is leaving the country for Armenia with his wife and two sons. His company, which handles contracts for international brands like Pepsi and automakers like Volkswagen, was booming as recently as January 2022, a record month for them. Now many of those brands were pulling out of the Russian market and his business was shrinking “immensely”.

Another business owner with hundreds of employees in the food and beverage and tourism industries felt that he was completely in the dark about the future under Vladimir Putin. “We have no fucking clue what he will do next,” he said. “No one in the business community has a clue any more. Everyone is so depressed. I have experienced so many economic crises here, the pandemic being the latest. But there was always a reason to keep on fighting for your business,” he said. “Now, I don’t see the light at the end of the tunnel any more. Even if peace is achieved, the damage is done. How do we reverse it?”

Oleg Deripaska, the billionaire businessman, had called for peace “as fast as possible” in a Telegram post on Sunday. On Monday, he went after the Central Bank decision to hike rates, taking aim at longtime rival Elvira Nabiullina, the head of the Central Bank. “A hiked rate, the mandatory sale of foreign currency … this is the first test of who actually will be responsible for this banquet,” Deripaska wrote. “I really want clarifications and intelligible comments on the economic policy of the next three months.”

“We have left communism 30 years ago, we got accustomed to having a lot of comforts that are also seen in the West. All of that progress can be gone. We are no longer a member of the international community.”

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/ ... -no-return
I observed someone online last night, who said that as a Russian they don't support the war against Ukraine. They said that "Putin was good ten years ago, but no more. We already voted in another president, but he's in jail now... What choice do we have."
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Post by The Rod » Mon Feb 28, 2022 1:25 pm

Is he insane or is he bluffing?

If he's bluffing, then his (not so thinly) veiled threats and heightened attack readiness is nothing to worry about. Everything is fine.

If he's not bluffing, he is exactly the kind of man who will kill everyone on the planet instead of losing. An embarrassed and desperate sociopath is the most dangerous kind of sociopath. And this one has the largest nuclear arsenal on the planet.

Calling the bluff.

These assholes might get us all killed.
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Post by Canoe » Mon Feb 28, 2022 1:51 pm

Just my take. I'm really not educated in this.

* Crimea is a "must" for him, due to subs.
* I find it plausible that he would 'dust' Ukraine so 'no one can have it' and it would be a 'buffer' without NATO or NATO partner (like Finland) on it.
* He's warned Finland and Sweden too.

Now, he's damaged the oligarchs in this. Speculating: how much more will they take before they take him out...
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Post by The Rod » Mon Feb 28, 2022 2:14 pm

I am also uneducated on these matters, but I have dealt with sociopaths before and am very familiar with the game of poker.

Fingers crossed that the russian oligarchs get tired of watching their portfolios shrink.. Putins deposition, à la Ceaser, might be our only hope of avoiding nuclear confrontation if the western oligarchs take the bait.
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Post by Canoe » Mon Feb 28, 2022 6:33 pm

"Oksana Markarova, Ukraine's ambassador to the US, told reporters after meeting with members of the US Congress that Russia had used a thermobaric weapon, known as a vacuum bomb, in its invasion of her country."
Thermobaric bombs used today in Ukraine. (Aka vacuum bomb)If you see this coming, open your mouth so your lungs don’t explode, and put your fingers deep in your ears to protect you ears, before the blast arrives.
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“There is no historical precedent to suggest that if Russia’s current demands are met, new ones will not follow … Resisting Russian ultimatums – and providing Ukraine with assistance in meeting the cost of doing so – is an investment in setting the limits of Russian power.”
It's like playing hide-and-seek with my 4 year old. I am allowed to look everywhere except where she doesn't want me to. And much like my 4 year old, not meeting demands can end in a hissy fit.
US administration officials warned lawmakers in classified briefings Monday that a second wave of Russian troops will likely consolidate the country’s positions within Ukraine and by sheer numbers be able to overcome the Ukrainian resistance, according to two people familiar with the briefings.

The officials also said Russia was likely to lay siege to Ukraine’s capital, Kyiv, and predicted ugly scenes of urban warfare, one of the people familiar with the matter said.
Greece sent two more plane loads of military equipment into Ukraine.
A Russian mother: Why has it been so long since you responded? Are you really in training exercises?
Son: Mom, I am no longer in Crimea. I am not in training sessions.
A Russian mother: Where are you then? Papa is asking whether I can send you a parcel.
Son: What kind of a parcel Mama can you send me? I just want to hang myself now.
A Russian mother: What are you talking about? What happened?
Son: Mom, I'm in Ukraine. There is a real war raging here. I am afraid. We are bombing all of the cities, together. Even targeting civilians. We were told that they would welcome us and they are falling under our armored vehicles, throwing themselves under the wheels and not allowing us to pass. They call us fascists. Mama, this is so hard.
Yet, this...
40 mile long convoy on what appears to be not much more than a gravel road with no defilade. That’s fish in a barrel.

Send in 4 Warthogs and be done with it.

> Back from a few days ago, originally on a protest sign, making the rounds for at least the second time: "Hey Putin. Could we just skip to the end, where you end yourself in a bunker?"
Original image going around again now. "Dear Putin, let's speed up to the part where you kill yourself in a bunker."
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Post by Canoe » Mon Feb 28, 2022 7:36 pm

* Putin says that Russia doesn't want Ukraine to be part of NATO, as that would mean NATO right beside Russia.
* If Russia takes over Ukraine, then Russia's border expands to include Ukraine's border.
* Which would mean that Russia's border would then include being next to:
  • Poland - a member of NATO
  • Slovakia - a member of NATO
  • Hungry - a member of NATO
  • Romania - a member of NATO
Have I got that right?

U.S. F-35 are currently in Poland & Romania...
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Post by Canoe » Tue Mar 01, 2022 5:22 am

Includes Russian troops in various Ukraine towns & cities.

https://twitter.com/RALee85
https://twitter.com/trbrtc
https://twitter.com/N_Waters89

Background on Russia
For years Russian legal and political system has been repressing the most active civic society leaders, those capable of gathering support for street activity. State adapted multitude of laws that penalize protests of any kind. Despite all that (details below) we are seeing massive protests all across the country for the second day in the row. That is both inspiring and astonishing. I would like this to be known and reported. That Russians showed their disagreement with what Putin does to Ukraine.
https://twitter.com/ABarbashin/status/1 ... 1670666252
I even dared to be optimistic for a while believe that diplomacy would solve this arguing "they can't be suicidal, right?"
Wait for the green light?
https://twitter.com/bichikota/status/14 ... 1183059970

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Whether it involves victims of a chemical attack or a bombing, open source investigators are required to watch and interact with raw footage from the field — it lies at the core of online open source investigation. As a consequence of the increase in eyewitness media, investigators come in contact with a high amount of graphic footage. While this is potential evidence for investigative and accountability purposes, we must be mindful of the effects that traumatic media can have on those coming in contact with it on a regular basis. The consequence of repeated exposure to eyewitness media or testimony is secondary, or vicarious, trauma. It is mental distress that is experienced as an outcome of interacting with graphic online media.
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Russia is temporarily banning western companies from exiting Russian investments, PM Mikhail Mishustin says.
https://twitter.com/maxseddon/status/14 ... 5726651396
Russia's defense minister Sergei Shoigu: "Protecting Russia from the military threat from the West is the main task of our special operation in Ukraine."
What happened to the 'genocide' of Russian speakers, drug dealers and Nazis in Kyiv?
Shoigu is claiming Ukraine is using city terrain to hide heavy weaponry.
That means Russia is going to continue attacking the cities and blaming UA for "locating guns close to hospitals".
People thinking the oligarchs can remove Putin from power are mistaking Russia for a merchant republic.
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Canoe wrote:
Mon Feb 28, 2022 7:18 pm
A Russian mother: Why has it been so long since you responded? Are you really in training exercises?
Son: Mom, I am no longer in Crimea. I am not in training sessions.
A Russian mother: Where are you then? Papa is asking whether I can send you a parcel.
Son: What kind of a parcel Mama can you send me? I just want to hang myself now.
A Russian mother: What are you talking about? What happened?
Son: Mom, I'm in Ukraine. There is a real war raging here. I am afraid. We are bombing all of the cities, together. Even targeting civilians. We were told that they would welcome us and they are falling under our armored vehicles, throwing themselves under the wheels and not allowing us to pass. They call us fascists. Mama, this is so hard.
Found the source. From the phone of a dead Russian soldier.

Ukrainian Ambassador to the U.N. Sergiy Kyslytsya Remarks at U.N. General Assembly Emergency Meeting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbiikviPOa8
Was posted as a reply in
Long thread about how I think the first 96 hours have gone, still very early/incomplete impressions.
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Canoe wrote:
Mon Feb 28, 2022 10:34 am
The Russian MoD said that only officers and contract soldiers are taking part in the operation in Ukraine, not conscripts.
According to @tvrain reporting numerous people across Russia of all ages are being called to enlisting offices. Reportedly Russians are being proposed to sign military contracts and/or join the reserves.
vs.
WASHINGTON — Plagued by poor morale as well as fuel and food shortages, some Russian troops in Ukraine have surrendered en masse or sabotaged their own vehicles to avoid fighting, a senior Pentagon official said on Tuesday.

Some entire Russian units have laid down their arms without a fight after confronting surprisingly stiff Ukrainian defense, the official said. A significant number of the Russian troops are young conscripts who are poorly trained and ill-prepared for the all-out assault. And in some cases, Russian troops have deliberately punched holes in their vehicles’ gas tanks, presumably to avoid combat, the official said.

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https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/03/01 ... o-tv-tower
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Post by Canoe » Tue Mar 01, 2022 10:40 am

As reported early on March 1, 2022, the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees (the "UN Refugee Agency") reports that around 660,000 Ukrainians have managed to flee to another country. Around one million are displaced within Ukraine.
~400,000 to Poland
~25,935 to Slovakia
~77,970 to Hungry
~25,000 to Romania
~41,521 to Moldova
Some of those have already moved on to other countries.
Estimates $1.7 Billion in aid will be required.
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40 mile long convoy on what appears to be not much more than a gravel road with no defilade. That’s fish in a barrel.

Send in 4 Warthogs and be done with it.
So how long would it take to train up and equip Ukrainian pilots & ground crew for three to four Dispersed Operations (off road/highway) A-10 Warthog teams with two to four Warthogs each, painted with Ukraine IDs? Any A-10 pilots/crew, retired or not, who would join Ukraine's forces?

* Hit the north convoy, east convoy and south convoy at the same time so hitting one doesn't warn the other, in low to avoid anti-air systems, each sweeps in low into position at the same time over the slowed/stopped waiting convoys, and let rip with a slow gentle nose rise to maximum disperse a single full burst down the convoy. Given the vehicle density in the convoys, even two birds per three teams making a single visit for a single full burst would likely make a meaningful, if not significant, difference?
* Low visit to the Russian held fields with dozens of sitting helos (attack & fast response troop/supply delivery)? Two in a dual pass down the dual lines of sitting birds.
* Optional, if riskier to anti-air due to release height, hole each convoy roadway at multiple points to contain occupants in place and limit resupply. Visit the rear fuel supplies? They might manage these with a night operation, even if their radar profile may be mistaken for that of an F-35.
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Despite claim Chechen out of Ukraine fight
Didn't take long him to reverse. Was lying or just reversed to avoid "Russian suicide"...
The Chechen president publishes a video of his soldiers
https://twitter.com/new_wer1/status/1498756045472161801
Wonder if it's one of those videos where there's only so many people but they circle around behind the camera to join in on the left again.
A Chechen column got wacked on Monday, after they posted a video showing off. Got eliminated for clowning around before they got to the front line. War is not kind to clowns.
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Post by Canoe » Tue Mar 01, 2022 1:47 pm

Flares (and chaff?) in use
Says two, but I see one splash.
Don't film us
European Parliament recommends giving Ukraine EU candidate status
America just survived a 4 yr bout with a megalomaniac. Our system allowed for us to remove him despite his attempts to subvert the system. It is now Russia’s turn to deal with theirs in whatever way works for them. Perhaps Putin shall go the way of the Czars.
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"We are well aware of the special operation that was to take place directly by the Kadyrovites to eliminate our president," Danilov said, per the post.
Ukrainian authorities had been tipped off about the plot by members of Russia's Federal Security Service who do not support the war, he added."

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Post by Elliot » Tue Mar 01, 2022 7:38 pm

...A-10 Warthog... ...single full burst...

Alas, the wonderful Warthog, rescuer of countless US ground troops, cannot fire long burst, and certainly not a full magazine. The recoil of each round is so strong that the airplane slows down significantly with even short bursts.

A full magazine at once would "make the airplane go backwards", goes the joke, with a core of truth.

Also, the ammunition is so heavy that a maximum of only 1,350 rounds can be carried. This is good for roughly three minutes in total. A 40-mile convoy would likely require quite a few more than four planes.

But I like the idea a lot!

That said... darkening the skies with cruise missiles... seems indicated -- with some of them for the Kremlin and Putin's dachas and other hiding places.
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Borodyanka, Kyiv region after the Russian bombs. Many civilians were killed and wounded.
https://twitter.com/Vitaliy23404583/sta ... 1107914757
"Ghost of Kyiv" has "already shot down 21 Russian planes."

Ukraine immediately recalls ambassador from Georgia for obstacles to volunteers who want to help us and not support sanctions and recalls ambassador from Kyrgyzstan for justifying aggression - Zelensky

A lot of footage of hit, burning or destroyed residential buildings.

Some UAV/drone footage showing Ukrainian attacks on Russian vehicles. Rather precise strikes, even when among buildings.

Multiple tweets showing Russian equipment abandoned, burnt/burning, including whole small convoys. A few of similar of Ukrainian equipment. A fair amount of Russian equipment, simple or advanced, simply abandoned after stuck in mud, or driven off the road and tipped/flipped/in-water (bad training). Significantly more supply vehicles than seen in earlier days.

Some of the abandoned equipment is in poor condition. But a surprisingly number of the abandoned equipment are in perfect working condition and have fuel, weapons, etc., and are situated ready to use. Including some tanks! Some of that equipment is from airborne troops, so trained, not conscripts. Not near a city, so they haven't taken their kit and gone on as saboteurs. Where gone? Consolidated survivors into another or more important vehicle?

Some Russian vehicles from the 60's and 70's turning up abandoned/captured/destroyed. One Russian's kit included sandals (where was he told he was going...).

Quite the assortment of Russian equipment re-marked and in use by Ukraine. One comment that the incoming Russians are supplying Ukraine with more equipment than everyone else combined.

Some abandoned Russian equipment, with arms, munitions & supplies, is being taken by Ukrainian civilians and hidden in woods to discourage it being recovered by the Russians.

Many road signs have been taken down, so they don't aid the enemy. One had the destinations painted over, and each destination now labelled with "Hague".
"Plenty of room in the prison in Scheveningen"
https://twitter.com/zradaqueen/status/1 ... 7137135617
tip of the iceberg
A sister & brother have just been admitted to the wartime emergency department at Kyiv’s main children’s hospital after seeing their mother die in an apparent artillery strike, a doctor said. The girl was wounded. The boy, who’s about 10 “barely can say a few word” the doctor said.
https://twitter.com/haynesdeborah/statu ... 1225706501
This is not MASH the tv show... into operating rooms
The result of the shelling of Mariupol by Russian troops. Many civilians were killed and wounded.
https://twitter.com/Vitaliy23404583/sta ... 8715575308
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Post by Canoe » Tue Mar 01, 2022 8:15 pm

Elliot wrote:
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A full magazine at once would "make the airplane go backwards", goes the joke, with a core of truth.
Coming in high or climbing before firing so they're diving for a strike would put them too much at risk.
Elliot wrote:
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Also, the ammunition is so heavy that a maximum of only 1,350 rounds can be carried. This is good for roughly three minutes in total. A 40-mile convoy would likely require quite a few more than four planes.
Doesn't need to hit all the equipment, nor even most. So instead of their usual precision hit on an object or a limited area, a low approach, burst with raising nose as firing - spray it down the line. Doesn't matter what you hit in the line. Hit enough in the line and you've blocked the route, not to mention ruining the day for more than a few. And it leaves them wondering when/where the next drive-by will occur... Sorry, were you planning on sleeping? Once they hear an A-10 burst, they'll never forget it.
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Post by Elliot » Tue Mar 01, 2022 9:28 pm

Agreed.

BRRRRRRT.
BRRRRRRRRRRRT.

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Surrender? How about "GET OUT!"
https://twitter.com/Vitaliy23404583/sta ... 7575815174

Military equipment being loaded in eastern Russia.
https://twitter.com/Liveuamap/status/14 ... 2713354246

Russian FM Lavrov warns that the third world war would be nuclear and destructive

Boeing is "suspending parts, maintenance and technical support services for Russian airlines." The company will be suspending "major operations" at its Moscow offices, which do a significant amount of fleet support and design

The Russian army destroyed the railway bridge in Vasylivka. This bridge used to provide a rail link between Zaporizhia and Melitopol, as well as the Kherson region

Incredible: Belarus state TV presents explosion at Freedom Square in Kharkiv as "a provocation by the Ukrainian nazis", and says "more and more Ukrainian soldiers are refusing to fight". This is straight out of nazi propaganda handbooks during WW2.
https://twitter.com/christogrozev/statu ... 9211130881

Poland’s ambassador to Ukraine who is still in Kyiv: infrastructure and healthcare facilities are subject to a barbaric devastation.

Ukrainian ministry of Defense estimates Russian casualties at 5840

Another devastating Russian strike on Kharkiv. This one hit the Karazin National University's School of Sociology which sits across the street from the regional Interior Ministry office / police building
https://twitter.com/Liveuamap/status/14 ... 6601597955

destroyed Russian military equipment in Bucha
https://twitter.com/Liveuamap/status/14 ... 5189787650

Russian T-72B and T-72B3 tanks with roof screens (Javelin cage), BTR-82A, and trucks with ammunition captured by Ukrainian forces.
https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1498983907886256131

True?
CNN accidentally filmed Russian corpses killed by javelin & aired it live. Reporter almost vomited. I the weapon, but seeing what it does to a human with my own eyes. My God. It is horror. These guys are not crazy to run & I hope all of them that are reluctant warriors do so.

The concept of moral injury when reading outrageous documents like these is useful. They know they're lying. They know you know they're lying. The whole exercise is a circus in which nobody can have consistent moral principles. If you engage on that basis, you've already lost.
https://twitter.com/MaximEdwards/status ... 5890026496

https://twitter.com/UAWeapons
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> Back from a few days ago, originally on a protest sign, making the rounds for at least the second time: "Hey Putin. Could we just skip to the end, where you end yourself in a bunker?"
Original image going around again now. "Dear Putin, let's speed up to the part where you kill yourself in a bunker."
"If [Putin] wants to kill himself, he doesn't need to use nuclear arsenal. He has to do what the guy in Berlin did in a bunker in May 1945."
-- Sergiy Kyslytsya, Ukrainian Abassador to the UN
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Post by Simon of the Playa » Wed Mar 02, 2022 6:03 am

Canoe wrote:
Wed Mar 02, 2022 5:17 am



The concept of moral injury when reading outrageous documents like these is useful. They know they're lying. They know you know they're lying. The whole exercise is a circus in which nobody can have consistent moral principles. If you engage on that basis, you've already lost.
https://twitter.com/MaximEdwards/status ... 5890026496

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Post by Canoe » Wed Mar 02, 2022 7:44 am

Above the details, here's an overview of what current Russian strategy appears to be, and where it may be going
This is Russia’s way of war. Putin has no qualm about medieval levels of brutality
The playbook involves besieging cities, targeting civilians and starvation
  • On the frontlines too, we may have seen video of disoriented and demotivated Russian soldiers taken captive, but the continuing bombardments of Ukraine’s cities shows that there are many more who are willing to obey orders to commit war crimes.
  • Russia will want to win quickly, before the massively increased aid to Ukraine announced by its western partners has time to be absorbed into its armed forces and build resilience and capacity to withstand the Russian onslaught.
  • one thing that is beyond doubt is that if current Russian tactics continue, it will create a humanitarian disaster on a scale Europe has not seen in decades.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... -brutality
If you want an overview of Russia's Rosgvardiya, which is really Putin's
(cherry picked from article in 2020)
In 2016, President Putin signed a decree that created the National Guard, known in common parlance by its Russian name Rosgvardiya. This did not entail whole new organizations or the recruitment of new troops, but rather a reorganization of existing internal security forces into a separate agency reporting directly to Putin.
  • These forces are distributed among seven regional commands that differ in capability and size. Some reports put the total personnel strength of the Rosgvardiya at approximately 400,000 although exact numbers are unknown.
  • But with no external restraints over the force, Rosgvardiya’s responsibilities remain open for wide interpretation. As an autonomous agency, it reports only to President Putin. Russia watchers largely agree that Rosgvardiya was created to give Putin more direct authority to control protests and possibly to protect him from a coup.
  • Putin has proven himself adept at moderating and resolving elite competition and infighting. Yet Putin’s low trust ratings, his unsteady handling of the coronavirus crisis, and his weak response to protests in Khabarovsk have raised questions about how able or willing he was to resolve domestic crises. If this trend continues, it is possible that a critical mass of elite could eventually sour on Putin. In this scenario, Rosgvardiya would serve a key function in foiling an elite insurgency.
  • For Putin, the stories of Ukraine and recently Belarus are instructive. In his view, Ukraine fell to a coup orchestrated with the help of Western powers which the Ukrainian government was ill-prepared to suppress.
  • If the Kremlin is smart, it will avoid putting Rosgvardiya in situations which will inevitably heighten tensions and look bad on TV. Yet without substantive domestic reforms, the likelihood of confrontation increases. The Kremlin seems genuinely unable to understand that managing the system and providing stability and predictability are not enough. People will become dispirited if they cannot envision a prosperous future.
https://www.csis.org/blogs/post-soviet- ... frontation
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