GEORGE W BUSH is so good .....

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Post by Elderberry » Wed Dec 17, 2008 10:44 am

ygmir wrote:thanks JK, nice response,
I appreciate it.

I do have one misgiving:

when you say you could tell what he was just saying to get votes..........
dang,
for me, that's saying it's ok to lie, as long as you win........dang, that just sits wrong with me...........
dang again.....

I understand where you come from on that, and, think I understand that, IYO, winning for him was more important than anything else..............
in your situation, I may even do the same thing.

It's just sad for me that things are what they are........

I'm moving to the hills, getting some lederhosen, wool pants, and alpen horn, shorts with suspenders, and herding goats like grandpa on Hiedi............


Life is really complex; I guess if I had to have a regret it would be not being born with enough entelligence to understand it all.

Is it ok to lie? That's another one of those tough questions. We lie to our kids all the time--for their own good? Santa Claus, Tooth Fairy, drugs, etc. Is that so bad?

Does the end justify the means? Who am I to say?

I'm just putting my money on this horse and keeping my fingers crossed. Lots of unexpected things can happen in a horse race. :)

If he stumbles or fails to live up to expectations, there will be no benefit to me in defending the obvious. I was a Bush supporter immediately after 9/11 through Afhghanistan. :wink:

Do you have the legs for liederhosen? :)

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Post by DVD Burner » Wed Dec 17, 2008 11:03 am

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Voted for Bush twice eh? :lol:
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Post by ygmir » Wed Dec 17, 2008 11:15 am

jkisha wrote:
Do you have the legs for liederhosen? :)

JK
well,
I'd say yes......but, others may dissent............
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Selling America a bill of goods...

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Post by DVD Burner » Wed Dec 17, 2008 12:17 pm

:lol:

Poor Joel. He has that hopeless feelin.

You need to snap out of that depressing funk. You will soon when the economy gets better in your neck of the woods.

Then we will see you voting for Obama a second term. :P

But to Speak of change I found this on Tribe:
"Before very long there will be changes that will bring back free speech, & once those with stories to tell feel safe from retaliation you will be astounded at what has been going on in your name."
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Post by DVD Burner » Wed Dec 17, 2008 12:19 pm

Just thought about something,


any real man would have caught the shoe and threw it back. :lol:

Bet that's what Obama would do.

Bush aint much of a ball man.

Fuckin wuss.
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Post by joel the ornery » Wed Dec 17, 2008 12:32 pm

DVD Burner wrote::lol:

Poor Joel. He has that hopeless feelin.

You need to snap out of that depressing funk. You will soon when the economy gets better in your neck of the woods.

Then we will see you voting for Obama a second term. :P

But to Speak of change I found this on Tribe:
"Before very long there will be changes that will bring back free speech, & once those with stories to tell feel safe from retaliation you will be astounded at what has been going on in your name."
i don't feel hopeless.

i'm simply not going to deify the president elect as has been done by the media and some of you people

and dude, i live in the middle of farm land near a major university... there are no economic downturns here.

knucklehead.

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Post by joel the ornery » Wed Dec 17, 2008 12:34 pm

DVD Burner wrote:Just thought about something,

any real man would have caught the shoe and threw it back. :lol:

Bet that's what Obama would do.

Bush aint much of a ball man.

Fuckin wuss.
your concept of a real man is one that gives you reach-around while poking your ass.

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Post by joel the ornery » Wed Dec 17, 2008 12:37 pm

get back to work

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Post by DVD Burner » Wed Dec 17, 2008 12:38 pm

Work?


What's that?


I'm from N.Y. and San Fran. There is no such word.


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Post by klondike_bar » Wed Dec 17, 2008 3:50 pm

i gotta hand it to bush. i never imagined that he had reflexes remotely close to how fast he dodged the shoe. the dude next to him barely even managed to flinch.

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Post by Elderberry » Wed Dec 17, 2008 3:55 pm

joel the ornery wrote: and dude, i live in the middle of farm land near a major university...
All that farm land must keep you pretty well insulated from the university! :shock: :D :wink:

Sorry, couldn't resist.

Hey, you said you aren't going to worship him, but do you have anything positive to say about what you've seen so far?

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Post by DVD Burner » Wed Dec 17, 2008 3:57 pm

jkisha wrote:
All that farm land must keep you pretty well insulated from the university! :shock: :D :wink:
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Post by DVD Burner » Wed Dec 17, 2008 4:22 pm

And they just keep on coming.

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Post by ALICEtheGOON » Wed Dec 17, 2008 5:01 pm

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dude that made me almost pee


so funny :lol:

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Glad you like it. :lol:
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Post by DVD Burner » Wed Dec 17, 2008 5:59 pm

Iraqi Parliament Debates Shoe Hurling

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By TIMOTHY WILLIAMS and ATHEER KAKAN
Published: December 17, 2008

BAGHDAD — A session of the Iraqi Parliament erupted in uproar on Wednesday as lawmakers clashed over how to respond to the continuing detention of an Iraqi television reporter who threw his shoes at President Bush during a Baghdad news conference earlier this week, people attending the parliamentary meeting said.

As Parliament began to discuss legislation on the withdrawal from Iraq of armed forces from nations other than the United States, a group of lawmakers demanded that the legislature instead take up the issue of the detained journalist, Muntader al-Zaidi, 29. After his shoes narrowly missed Mr. Bush’s head at the news conference on Sunday, Mr. Zaidi was subdued by a fellow journalist and then beaten by members of the prime minister’s security detail, who hauled him out of the room. Mr. Zaidi’s cries could be heard from a nearby room.

The legislative session became so tumultuous that it prompted the speaker of Parliament, Mahmoud al-Mashhadani, to announce his resignation, according to The Associated Press. A spokesman for Mr. Mashhadani, Jabar al-Mashhadani, refused to confirm whether the speaker had tendered his resignation, although he would not deny it.

Some in Parliament say the government should release Mr. Zaidi immediately, while others say the judiciary should decide his fate.

How badly injured Mr. Zaidi was by members of Prime Minister Nuri Kamal al-Maliki’s security detail is not clear. He has not appeared in public since his arrest, and his family members and his legal representatives say they have not been permitted to visit him.

On Wednesday, Mr. Zaidi had been scheduled to appear before a judge, but it was unclear whether that had happened. When his relatives and members of the media showed up at the court, they were told Mr. Zaidi was not there.

Dhiya al-Saadi, one of Mr. Zaidi’s lawyers, said Wednesday that he was not sure whether Mr. Zaidi had appeared before a judge or not.

As part of the Iraqi legal system, a judge typically serves in the role of investigator to determine whether bringing formal charges against a suspect is warranted, criminal lawyers in Iraq said.

Mr. Zaidi faces up to seven years in prison if he is charged with, and convicted of, offending the head of a foreign state.

The session of Parliament on Wednesday ended without a consensus on what action to take regarding the reporter, said Mr. Mashhadani, the speaker’s spokesman.
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Post by littleflower » Wed Dec 17, 2008 6:20 pm

thank you far that one, DVD. i love watching a new democracy figure out how to deal with this sort of crap ... i hope they let the guy go, especially since they beat him up ... but they know that if they do, this story will become even more of an issue because of the way he was treated. growing pains ... and very interesting, in any case. even the older democracies still struggle with such things ....

of course, 7 years ago the guy would just be dead ... and the entire episode suppressed ...

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Post by DVD Burner » Wed Dec 17, 2008 6:31 pm

Obama Time's person of the year.

Oh wait, that's right, this is the "Throw shoe at Bush" thread.

Actually it's a pretty good issue.

But in the mean time, there is more pouring in:

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Post by Sham » Wed Dec 17, 2008 9:26 pm

Am I the only one who noticed that the Secret Service was no where to be seen during this incident? In the past, if a President was assaulted or attacked, the Secret Service was shielding and removing the President within a split second. In this case, Bush just stood there, with his trademarked dumb look on his face and no one came to shield him. I know he has just about a month left, but if something should happen to him, Cheney/Satin will have the honor of being the President---albiet for a month. WTF is the Secret Service thinking letting Bush out in public. They must protect this man at any cost until we can get the next President with brain into the oval office.

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Post by wedeliver » Wed Dec 17, 2008 10:29 pm

Shambala wrote:Am I the only one who noticed that the Secret Service was no where to be seen during this incident? In the past, if a President was assaulted or attacked, the Secret Service was shielding and removing the President within a split second. In this case, Bush just stood there, with his trademarked dumb look on his face and no one came to shield him. I know he has just about a month left, but if something should happen to him, Cheney/Satin will have the honor of being the President---albiet for a month. WTF is the Secret Service thinking letting Bush out in public. They must protect this man at any cost until we can get the next President with brain into the oval office.
Well you gotta admit, if you saw the secret service then they arn't being very secret.

Also everyone was searched prior to entering the room and what they didn't show us was that all the people in the audence where naked from the waist down. Any pants you see where added, after the fact, by Hollywood. They didn't think of the shoe weapon so everyone kept their shoes on. They should have watched "Get Smart"!
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Top that. :lol:
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Post by DVD Burner » Thu Dec 18, 2008 5:53 am

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See, the point of it all is, even if Obama has strings being pulled, so did Bush, but at least Obama is no wheres as stupid as Bush and his followers.

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Post by joel the ornery » Thu Dec 18, 2008 6:50 am

jkisha wrote:Hey, you said you aren't going to worship him, but do you have anything positive to say about what you've seen so far?

JK
um, actually.... nope.

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Post by ALICEtheGOON » Thu Dec 18, 2008 9:52 am

I thought the incident was funny . Very impressive reflexes by old

George . I posted it as C O M E D Y . The knives really came out on this post .
The most ironic thing is ....

IT DONT MATTER . Whether you are republican or democrat . The powers that be will always get thier man (or woman) as president.

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Post by DVD Burner » Thu Dec 18, 2008 10:37 am

ALICEtheGOON wrote:
IT DONT MATTER . Whether you are republican or democrat . The powers that be will always get thier man (or woman) as president.
Yup!

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