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Post by blueniteowl » Mon Feb 07, 2005 10:52 pm

Fishy, I don't see why it would be a problem. If your aren't catholic then why do you care if it is permitted? I used to be a catholic and I don't remember anything saying you couldn't redo famous martyrdoms. I must say they are all nice candidates though.

(I wasn't really sure if it was a serious question. Oh well, if it wasn't.)

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Post by blueniteowl » Mon Feb 07, 2005 11:07 pm

oh, and I saw this gardening show today that gave me a twist on the tree idea. They did a project of creating a container with a wire topiary and I was thinking you could either make one or go buy one and then wrap greenery around the wire. Hmmm, just thought of something else. Anyways and use that instead of a tree idea. I think I'm going to sit on some of this stuff for a few days and see if I can get my dad to teach me to weld.

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Post by robotland » Tue Feb 08, 2005 12:50 pm

theCryptofishist wrote:Although I've often toyed with the idea of redoing famous martyrdoms with Barbie,
You could make a Barbie /St. Catherine Wheel- That'd be INTERACTIVE as well, as folks could bring their own action figures to be tormented......

Barbie re-creating the 26 fates of The Gashleycrumb Tinies would be amusing too.....
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Post by RingO'Fire » Tue Feb 08, 2005 2:27 pm

Hey Fishie,

If the catholics have stained glass windows like this one in their churches,

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I don't think they'd get too bent out of shape by your St. Barbie the Martyr irreverence.
...but it seemed like such a good idea at the time...

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Post by theCryptofishist » Wed Feb 09, 2005 4:29 pm

Thanks, Ring, but I think that you're grossly overestimating the thickness of many catholics' skins.

And it wasn't them I was stressing about anyway, more about the "why am I complaining when I wasn't even brought up in the church." Although there's a good arguement that the catholic influance in this culture is so pervasive that it's fair game to us all. I'm not sure how eleborate I wanna get for the Doc, but I did want to try some barbie warping. Right now I wanna try dyeing some. I just have to find my bargain dye.
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Post by Ranger Genius » Wed Feb 09, 2005 6:24 pm

Oooh! Slave of the Cannibal God!
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Post by Ranger Genius » Wed Feb 09, 2005 6:28 pm

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Post by cowboyangel » Wed Feb 09, 2005 7:04 pm

hey, I never saw that one....Ursula was the thing though
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Post by ThePikey » Wed Feb 09, 2005 7:17 pm

I had a similar idea, Fishie.

I was thinking something on the order of 'The Passion of Stretch Armstrong'.

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Post by theCryptofishist » Thu Feb 10, 2005 8:23 am

Flopping on the floor laughing.
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Post by robotland » Thu Feb 10, 2005 8:36 am

ThePikey wrote:I had a similar idea, Fishie.

I was thinking something on the order of 'The Passion of Stretch Armstrong'.
I am in the Kung Fu Grip of a fit of laughter, thanks to you.
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Post by ThePikey » Thu Feb 10, 2005 9:43 am

*bows*

But really, I'm impressed by your vision of a whole martyrdom ensemble... get some Barbies, Cabbage Patches, GI Joes... make some little plaques to identify them, mebbe a little story or history to go with each one...

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Post by geekster » Sun Feb 13, 2005 1:49 am

So I had an idea. It is just an illuminated sign on the playa. All it says is:

© 2005
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Post by robotland » Mon Feb 14, 2005 5:48 am

I am reminded of the work of Regus Patoff.
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Post by dragonfly Jafe » Mon Feb 14, 2005 5:56 am

geekster wrote:So I had an idea. It is just an illuminated sign on the playa. All it says is:

© 2005
that would be fitting somehow...

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Post by theCryptofishist » Mon Feb 14, 2005 1:43 pm

Stunning polymer clay beads from this site
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Post by blueniteowl » Sat Feb 19, 2005 10:00 pm

I'm looking for info on welding or soldering wire. I know nothing. But I have some good ideas swimming around in my head with no outlet. If anyone know's where I should start, please drop me a note.

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Post by rodent » Sat Feb 19, 2005 10:27 pm

I heartilly recommend checking out your local community college or Junior College. I'd be mighty surprised if they didn't offer a welding class (sometimes they even offer one geared towards artists).

JC's are reeeealy cheep and likely offer night classes. I took a welding class from my local college a few years ago and it was well worth it.

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Post by geekster » Sun Feb 20, 2005 1:45 am

dragonfly Jafe wrote:
geekster wrote:So I had an idea. It is just an illuminated sign on the playa. All it says is:

© 2005
that would be fitting somehow...
I had the idea to put it way out on the playa but positioned so that if someone were to take a picture of the man from the 6:00 radial then would see that in the lower right corner of the photograph.
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Post by robotland » Mon Feb 21, 2005 7:08 am

blueniteowl wrote:I'm looking for info on welding or soldering wire. I know nothing. But I have some good ideas swimming around in my head with no outlet. If anyone know's where I should start, please drop me a note.
This is a very comprehensive and inexpensive book:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/ ... 54-7831243
Welding gear isn't TOO expensive, but you'd have to throw down at least a coupla hundred for anything decent....I'd suggest a gas setup just for versatility. You can get a cheap arc "buzz box" for under a hundred. For soldering and brazing, try a MAPP gas torch kit- Available for under 30 bucks. Start out just seeing what you can WRECK with it before trying to CREATE. Cutting steel up with a cutting torch is very enjoyable!
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Post by theCryptofishist » Thu Feb 24, 2005 9:00 am

Matchbox art cars.
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Post by unjonharley » Thu Feb 24, 2005 9:32 am

theCryptofishist wrote:Matchbox art cars.
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3\4-1 is as small as ! go w\out loseing detail. I build models to stay on track to the goal. 08 is in a box (in pieces). Will open it when I return from 05.
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Post by Martiansky » Thu Feb 24, 2005 10:35 am

Blue, when you say you use 24 gauge silver wire, do you mean silver colored wire or real silver wire?
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Post by theCryptofishist » Thu Feb 24, 2005 10:54 am

robotland wrote:
blueniteowl wrote:I'm looking for info on welding or soldering wire. I know nothing. But I have some good ideas swimming around in my head with no outlet. If anyone know's where I should start, please drop me a note.
This is a very comprehensive and inexpensive book:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/ ... 54-7831243
Welding gear isn't TOO expensive, but you'd have to throw down at least a coupla hundred for anything decent....I'd suggest a gas setup just for versatility. You can get a cheap arc "buzz box" for under a hundred. For soldering and brazing, try a MAPP gas torch kit- Available for under 30 bucks. Start out just seeing what you can WRECK with it before trying to CREATE. Cutting steel up with a cutting torch is very enjoyable!
I have a wonderful book on tin can art. I've been thinking of getting one of those big Soy Sauce cans, cutting off hte top (but leaving the handle) putting in a bunch of holes in the side and then throwing in a bunch of blinkies and using it as a lantern. Does the torch make a less dangerous cut than can opener and aviation snips?
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Post by blueniteowl » Thu Feb 24, 2005 10:56 am

It's a silver finish craft wire, whatever that means. Real sterling silver wire is pretty expensive, but you can buy it at bead stores. I'm also starting to experiment with copper in different sizes. And just picked up some stainless steel to use. I've used galvanized steel before, but I don't like it that much. Plus, with the health warnings I'd prefer not to use it in gifts.

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Post by Martiansky » Thu Feb 24, 2005 11:00 am

I picked up a pretty decent sized roll of copper wire at Maynerds a few weeks back. I was going to use it for wrapping a round a rock and making a necklace...thing. I believe they also had brass wire.
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Post by theCryptofishist » Thu Feb 24, 2005 11:01 am

Health warnings with galvanized?

Double check on brass--I believe it contains lead.
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Post by theCryptofishist » Thu Feb 24, 2005 11:02 am

the EPA wrote: Brass is composed of approximately 60 to 80 % copper, 4 to 32 % zinc, 2 to 8 % lead, s 6% tin, and trace amounts of iron, tin, and cadmium. The relationship between alloy composition and resulting amounts of metal leached from the alloy in drinking water has not been fully established.
http://www.epa.gov/ORD/NRMRL/Pubs/600R9 ... R96103.htm
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Post by blueniteowl » Thu Feb 24, 2005 11:03 am

yea, I've picked up wire at ace hardware. Home depot doesn't have much of a selection at all. I also pick up wire at beading stores and craft stores. One of my favorite beading stores is Bobby Bead, in uptown. They have a website if you interested: www.bobbybead.com

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Post by blueniteowl » Thu Feb 24, 2005 11:06 am

theCryptofishist wrote:Health warnings with galvanized?

Double check on brass--I believe it contains lead.
Yea, it's always on the back of the package. It says something like the process has been known to cause cancer. Wash hands after touching.
I don't remember exactly what it says, but it's something like that.

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