The Bar

Box Burner · Post by **Box Burner** » Fri Jun 30, 2006 8:26 pm

Heyyyyy O! well I gotta go.
There's nothing left to do but rock and roll.
A little bit of rhythm with a strong back beat,
got my blue suede shoes on my two left feet.
Bottle of whisky going out the door,
gonna dance this dance 'til I can't no more.
Heyyyyy O! well I gotta go.
There's nothing left to do but rock and roll.

sputnik · Post by **sputnik** » Fri Jun 30, 2006 8:29 pm

Hi

Bye

See you all friday of next week or so.

Box Burner · Post by **Box Burner** » Fri Jun 30, 2006 9:04 pm

Hey Fishy

HAPPY BIRTHDAY!

Another musing from the mad Prince Albert

LeChatNoir · Post by **LeChatNoir** » Fri Jun 30, 2006 9:19 pm

(from the shadow up in the rafters)

Whatsup brutha?

Box Burner · Post by **Box Burner** » Fri Jun 30, 2006 9:24 pm

Hi LCN - just trying to figgure out what I can do to get to the burn.

LeChatNoir · Post by **LeChatNoir** » Fri Jun 30, 2006 9:42 pm

Well... In life there are short term problems and there are long term problems and its important to not get them confused, so first things first...

Did you get the car going?

If not, what is wrong with it?

ibdave · Post by **ibdave** » Fri Jun 30, 2006 9:53 pm

Hey BB LCN {{{}}}
Been car shopping ... arggggggg
Looking at the hybrid cars... arggggg
Now looking for websites that rate the cars ect.. argggggg
Have a 16 yr old ready to drive soon.. $$$$$ argggggggggg
Time for a vicodin ahhhhhhh

ibdave · Post by **ibdave** » Fri Jun 30, 2006 9:55 pm

BB big fucking Bummer on the car shit... been there b-4..

LeChatNoir · Post by **LeChatNoir** » Fri Jun 30, 2006 10:04 pm

Not to depress BB any more than he already is, but I've been toying with the idea of a new car for a year or so now myself... sort of an assistant for my wonderful, wonderful work truck.

I like the VW Jetta with the 4cyl diesel... 42 MPG.

Dependable, long life and high mileage???

Nice.

Just figure I've got to wait another year or so for a used one.

pinemom · Post by **pinemom** » Fri Jun 30, 2006 10:10 pm

good evening everyone! one more day counting till my friday...bonus i dont have to do split shift tomorrow! yeah!
Did I read someones bday tonight?

LeChatNoir · Post by **LeChatNoir** » Fri Jun 30, 2006 10:13 pm

Did I read someones bday tonight?

fishy....

Technically today here on the east coast.

No split shift=good thing.

Split shifts were designed by people who don't have to worry about working them.

Box Burner · Post by **Box Burner** » Fri Jun 30, 2006 10:21 pm

LeChatNoir wrote:Well... In life there are short term problems and there are long term problems and its important to not get them confused, so first things first...

Did you get the car going?

If not, what is wrong with it?

Well I am going if I have to hitchhike.

Well initially It was the starter and bendix. OK. $250 Makes things tight at a time when evewry last nickle counts. Doable IF nothing else goes. So they put it in and it works but does not disengage. So now also need a new flywheel. Another $750. No can do. Would take two paychecks (a months pay) to cover that if I did not pay any bills.

And When I walk out of the door of this house in August I am never coming back. Gonna throw a match in when I leave. Would be a kindness to burn this house down. It's a sad house.

Was gonna take whatever I could fit in the Bronco (the car) and leave the rest. Maybe a little more stuff if my dad drives his car out here.

Anyway not I gota use plan B. Just don't know what that is yet.

But I am gonna dance til I drop.

pinemom · Post by **pinemom** » Fri Jun 30, 2006 10:25 pm

aww, so sorry BoxB, that does suck ass! I have an old GMC jimmy, but luckily have new engine. But my old Blazer used to always have cronic shithappens...BUT ONLY when I was broke...good'ol murph's law!
Good JU-JU to you bud!

HAPPY BIRTHDAY FISHY!

LeChatNoir · Post by **LeChatNoir** » Fri Jun 30, 2006 10:27 pm

Ooop!!!

sorry for the unwelcoming reply, Evergreen Bringer of Life... I'm into sewing a skirt at the moment.

BB... wait.. Does not DISengage?

Nothing to do with the flywheel... everything to do with the starter relay getting stuck. At least seems that way to me.

Starter is built to shoot forward and contact the flywheel when it has power sent to it. If it is staying engaged, then its continuing to get power, like if you left the key in the start postion after it is running.

Box Burner · Post by **Box Burner** » Fri Jun 30, 2006 10:37 pm

The teeth on the starter are chewed up and will not release the starter or bendix or something. The guys at the Ford shop have bent over backward to make things right without me having to complain or even ask, so I know they are not feeding me a line. I have been doing bussiness with them for 3 1/2 years. He said that after they got the new starter in it would disengage so they figured it was a bad starter. Buit when thay took it out and tested it, it worked fine. I dunno.

LeChatNoir · Post by **LeChatNoir** » Fri Jun 30, 2006 10:43 pm

Wish I was closer to you, man... Without lookng at it myself I must say that going on what you've tol me, I am very confused at this point.

If the starter teeth are boogered, and it was a new starter... sounds like an error by the installer to me.

But again... I'm not there to look at it myself.

LeChatNoir · Post by **LeChatNoir** » Fri Jun 30, 2006 10:47 pm

Box Burner wrote:The teeth on the starter are chewed up and will not release the starter or bendix or something. The guys at the Ford shop have bent over backward to make things right without me having to complain or even ask, so I know they are not feeding me a line. I have been doing bussiness with them for 3 1/2 years. He said that after they got the new starter in it would disengage so they figured it was a bad starter. Buit when thay took it out and tested it, it worked fine. I dunno.

Ok, so let me see if I have this correct...

Old starter does not start engine...

Old starter gear is stripped...

New starter goes in, works but does not start engine...

pull out, check new starter and it works fine...

ibdave · Post by **ibdave** » Fri Jun 30, 2006 11:00 pm

Sounds like the started is not sitted flush, so your getting a bind when the teeth engage to the ring gear..

LeChatNoir · Post by **LeChatNoir** » Fri Jun 30, 2006 11:06 pm

Yeah... I need more information, BB... but I'm beat at the moment and may not be thinking clearly.

See you guys later.

pinemom · Post by **pinemom** » Fri Jun 30, 2006 11:09 pm

g'night all see ya in morning for coffe

Box B...walk out into the night a wish upon a star! Miracles do happen!

Plus get a second opinion on the Bronco!

Box Burner · Post by **Box Burner** » Fri Jun 30, 2006 11:15 pm

New starter goes in and works, but does not disengage after the engine starts and the key is released.

thisisthatwhichis · Post by **thisisthatwhichis** » Sat Jul 01, 2006 12:10 am

That's usually starter not installed right, cause a boogered flywheel usually wont want to turn over......

Jewel*** · Post by Jewel*** » Sat Jul 01, 2006 1:51 am

i'm not usually up so late/early........daughter is off to camp on her california extraveganza. flying into Denver this morning. I'm down to 1 kid for 4 weeks.........

Lorgasm · Post by **Lorgasm** » Sat Jul 01, 2006 5:29 am

Good Morning All!!

HAPPY FREAKIN' BIRTHDAY FISHY. Ready for your spankings???? Just let me get wired on some go go juice.

Hey BB, I know you're probably down and confused right now. Been there baby. Just relax. We are all here to help in one way or another. Just gott stay positive. This is just one of life's rude interuptions. It'll pass.

I really had fun at the bar yesterday. Thanks tribe. Going to go to my professor's house Monday and deliver part of of my assignment. So Iam half way there!!!!!! The kilts helped. Thanks Mojo.

Hey Espresso Dude, just saw your post (Brad in a kilt). Very nice. I'll be back around in a few.

Enjoy the new day!!
Lorgasm

pinemom · Post by **pinemom** » Sat Jul 01, 2006 7:13 am

Second on EVERYTHING Lorgasm said....!!!

pinemom · Post by **pinemom** » Sat Jul 01, 2006 7:13 am

g'mornin all

EspressoDude · Post by **EspressoDude** » Sat Jul 01, 2006 7:51 am

gOOD mORNING aLL::

IT'S ESPRESSO TIME!!

anyway BB, about that starter: Has anyone visually inspected the ring gear teeth? I know that if the pinion gear(the little one on the Bendix[fancy name for over-running clutch]) hammers into the ring gear enough that the metal on the edge of the gear teeth CAN get hammered into the gaps between the teeth and make insertion and withdrawal difficult. Usually ring gear teeth are hardened so this doesn't happen often, but the pinion gear is super hard.

There is way more force available to shove the pinion into the ring gear than there is to pull it out.

Depending on the starter mounting method, whether it goes straight in the front into a hole in the front of the bell housing, or up onto the bottom of the block, there may be shims used to set the ring gear to pinion spacing. If there were none used with the old starter and the replacement starter tolerances need some, the shop may not "know" to use shims. Often the case in general mechanic shops as opposed to dealer shops.

What year/engine is your Bronco?

pinemom · Post by **pinemom** » Sat Jul 01, 2006 7:56 am

thats what i was wondering too...what year is bronco.. although CHEVY/GM is the better choice...hehehe Chevy bitch
Ive redone starters too, and because mine is a 85 and had a 79 too, It alomst mandatory to use the shims, for some reason didnt have to with this new starter I replaced 2 months ago? It seemed to lock into place, (I even felt into groove, my fingers are small enough, but no gap or movement)so I kept the shims just in case it starts to grind or slip.

Box Burner · Post by **Box Burner** » Sat Jul 01, 2006 8:02 am

Shop is a Ford dealership. Bronco II is a 2 wheel drive with a 2.9 liter
v6.

pinemom · Post by **pinemom** » Sat Jul 01, 2006 8:03 am

the year?