Cancer remedies

can't sit still · Post by **can't sit still** » Wed Apr 20, 2011 9:31 pm

Reportedly, the Technion has developed a "breath test" for cancer;
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/241853/241853
This is a new development also;
http://yourlife.usatoday.com/health/med ... 46174922/1

The CO · Post by **The CO** » Fri Apr 22, 2011 11:53 am

CSS, please please PLEASE stop with this "IV chelation" crap. Stop with this thread. Stop propagating false and harmful information.

You are claiming that these magical cures are being held back by big drug companies so they can turn a profit. How do you make profit off of dead people?
Pfizer wasn't making any money off people with dead erections, until they came out with Viagra.

Delle, this thread is not the place to find any answers to any questions. You should go straight to the source and ask the person (your husbands son?) or perhaps a doctor. I think you are hearing the end of a game of telephone. Credible doctors don't give radiation therapy to people with no sign of cancer. Quacks & con men do.

can't sit still wrote:There is an Italian oncologist who claims that cancer is a fungus.

So funking what?

There's a group shelter resident 4 blocks from my house that claims MI6 implanted a tiny man in his butt that is trying to control him.

There's pet physchic on TV that claims to read my cats mind.

There's are ex-presidents, prime ministers & dictators that claim they only went to war in whatever country to protect them.

Claims don't mean shit. Most everything you have posted in this thread is shit. I don't like finding shit all over one of my favorite BBS.

Please, css, let this thread go. Let it die.

Ugly Dougly · Post by **Ugly Dougly** » Fri Apr 22, 2011 12:43 pm

We know who CSS is working for, don't we?

Mojojita · Post by **Mojojita** » Fri Apr 22, 2011 1:03 pm

The CO wrote:CSS, please please PLEASE stop with this "IV chelation" crap. Stop with this thread. Stop propagating false and harmful information.

You are claiming that these magical cures are being held back by big drug companies so they can turn a profit. How do you make profit off of dead people?
Pfizer wasn't making any money off people with dead erections, until they came out with Viagra.

Delle, this thread is not the place to find any answers to any questions. You should go straight to the source and ask the person (your husbands son?) or perhaps a doctor. I think you are hearing the end of a game of telephone. Credible doctors don't give radiation therapy to people with no sign of cancer. Quacks & con men do.

can't sit still wrote:There is an Italian oncologist who claims that cancer is a fungus.
So funking what?

There's a group shelter resident 4 blocks from my house that claims MI6 implanted a tiny man in his butt that is trying to control him.

There's pet physchic on TV that claims to read my cats mind.

There's are ex-presidents, prime ministers & dictators that claim they only went to war in whatever country to protect them.

Claims don't mean shit. Most everything you have posted in this thread is shit. I don't like finding shit all over one of my favorite BBS.

Please, css, let this thread go. Let it die.

THANK YOU! As one who watched a loved one come within minutes of being killed by an otherwise very curable cancer, because one of the murdering quacks from a mexican clinic was getting rich off her ignorance, I ask you all to check things out with Quackwatch.com.

I'm so sick of hearing the old "but all they want to do is burn, cut or poison",,,,, DAMN RIGHT....and if it were me, they would be welcome to use explosives too if it would get rid of the fucking cancer!!!!!

It just isn't true folks that oncologists are all on the take and there is some government conspiracy with the pharmaceutical companies that prevents appropriate cancer care within mainstream medicine. This kind of delusion kills people every day and lines the pockets of the snake oil salesmen. Please stop this.

Mojojita · Post by **Mojojita** » Fri Apr 22, 2011 1:20 pm

delle wrote:Not sure where to post this, but it seems appropriate enough as any....

I have a serious WTF question that I just can't find an answer to.

We got a really strange call from my husband's daughter last night. Here's the story:

Her brother (my husband's son....) has been dating a girl for several years. She was just diagnosed with stage 4 throat cancer.

Which is tragic.

But is not my WTF question.

She then went on to say that her BROTHER will also have to undergo the radiation treatments. After having had all his teeth pulled.

Hubby had her repeat this 3 times to be sure he heard it right.

Now I've looked and looked on the internet to try and find ANYTHING where a spouse of a throat cancer patient would have to undergo radiation -- perhaps as a preventative measure? --- but have found nothing. The pulling of teeth before starting radiation appears to be standard practice in cases where the teeth are weak and are most likely to be ruined and become a problem further down the line. That (although horrible) is not so much the issue. I've just never heard of a significant other having to undergo the treatments as well. I don't understand this at all.

We unfortunately don't have access to the son to corroborate this story, and are really hoping that she got the details wrong, but given the source it seems unlikely. She's not one to make this kind of a mistake.

Has anyone here ever heard of something similar to this?

Delle; Sorry I just saw this post. Please, please, please be sure this person is going to a mainstream doctor and not a hack. A loved one of mine had all her teeth pulled FOR NO GOOD REASON by a very dangerous hack "doctor" in a Mexican clinic because she was deluded by their scientific claims. She was told that her dental work was "toxic" and had could be a cause of her cancer. She eventually came within minutes of being strangled by an otherwise very treatable throat cancer. As a result in her trust of "alternative" medicine, she did not get the radiation that would have cured her months sooner, but waited until her vocal chords had to be surgically removed in order to keep her alive. ($80,000 later)

This stuff makes me lividly angry. I guess I should chalk it up to a Darwinian form of natural selection - those that are so gullible won't live to reproduce.

delle · Post by **delle** » Fri Apr 22, 2011 2:02 pm

Good lord. That's just horrible, Mo. Horrible and criminal, I'd think!!!!

Unfortunately I still have no access to the boy. We have only a cell phone number for him and he's not answering. The only person who knew anything about it at all was his sister, and we're really hoping she had it wrong.

I have to presume that if he's been seen by a doctor it was VA, since I believe that's the only medical coverage he has as a vet.

The teeth pulling seems to be a pretty standard practice if the teeth are bad (which they well may be....). That's the only part I'm willing to "accept" in the whole story thus far. What I don't understand - and can't possibly until we speak to him - is why he is undergoing the treatment at all, given that it's his girlfriend who was diagnosed with stage 4. I mean I've heard of being supportive before and all, but really!!!!

Obviously I'm missing something. I'm really hoping that theres a good chunk of misinformation in there. Because the story is sad enough without that aspect.

Mojojita · Post by **Mojojita** » Fri Apr 22, 2011 2:06 pm

The whole thing sounds really hinky to me....

delle · Post by **delle** » Fri Apr 22, 2011 2:15 pm

No shit.

And I've done every type of search I could think of and haven't found a single reference to this kind of thing......... so again..... I'm really praying the misinformation angle. As in, WE'VE been misinformed, not them.

can't sit still · Post by **can't sit still** » Fri Apr 22, 2011 5:02 pm

Some of you seem to have a serious comprehension problem. The only recommendation that I gave Delle was to call one of the top cancer centers in the world.

can't sit still wrote:Delle, sorry to hear that you have to go through all the ugly process of fighting cancer. You should immediately call the Loma Linda center.
http://lomalindahealth.org/medical-cent ... bAodFkrkHQ
They're far more likely to have your answer than anyone on the blog.

CO, up until now, your posts have represented someone who is informed. IV chelation was invented in the 40s and has proven to be very effective. Especially for vascular disease. http://www.chelationstory.com/chelation_studies.htm
You shoot from the hip and are incorrect. Read the studies and educate yourself.
"It wasn't until 1948 that EDTA was first used in the treatment of lead poisoning. Since then, it has become the premier method of treating lead poisoning as well as other heavy metal toxicities."
http://www.oralchelation.com/LifeGlowBa ... al/p76.htm
If y'all don't like what I post, tough shit.

Sic Pup · Post by **Sic Pup** » Sat Apr 23, 2011 4:27 am

can't sit still wrote:If y'all don't like what I post, tough shit.

Long overdue, only my second, fitting in that's what most of it is rated.

The CO · Post by **The CO** » Sat Apr 23, 2011 10:32 am

can't sit still wrote:CO, up until now, your posts have represented someone who is informed.

As opposed to posting every piece of quackery I find?

can't sit still wrote:IV chelation was invented in the 40s and has proven to be very effective. Especially for vascular disease.

Yes. IV Chelation is effective at removing heavy metals from the body, good for treating lead, arsenic & other poisonings, as well as poisonings from certain poison gasses.

It is NOT used for treating cancer, because cancer has nothing to do with heavy metal poisoning, which you would know if you researched before posting shite.

From the FDA website: http://www.fda.gov/Drugs/ResourcesForYo ... 229313.htm

"Questions and Answers on Unapproved Chelation Products

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) advises consumers to be wary of so-called â€œchelationâ€

can't sit still · Post by **can't sit still** » Sat Apr 23, 2011 10:45 am

Is this the same FDA that approved aspartame? You seem to have some real problems with comprehension. I ONLY stated results about IV chelation. The FDA paper is about OTC and dietary products. I never made any claims about oral or suppository chelation or any OTC treatments. Other than dietary support, I never advocated self-medication.
The FDA approves IV chelation for many problems.

The CO · Post by **The CO** » Sat Apr 23, 2011 11:03 am

You're arguing semantics, and still wrong. If you are going to claim that the FDA is wicked & useless(aspartame comment), don't try to use them to support your case. And if you are going to try to use them for support, know your facts. The links you are posting in support of your argument don't even back you up.

IV chelation is FDA approved for heavy metal poisoning, and rare limited other applications involving removing excess calcium from the body(those would be some of the limited cardiovascular uses).

It has never been approved for any form of cancer treatment.

I mean it dude. Please shut the fuck up about this and go peddle conspiracy on any number of other threads.

Donna Matrix · Post by **Donna Matrix** » Sat Apr 23, 2011 11:10 am

Health is a personal responsibility, but the world is full of poisons and getting worse. This complicates matters. However, our job is avoid all of the chronic disease by taking care of our own bodies by getting what we need (nutrients) and no getting what we don't need (poisons).

I teach Nutrition at the local junior college and try my best to instill self preservation. However, accidents do happen and medical care might be needed. I do believe that the Federal agencies are pretty much useless.

The CO · Post by **The CO** » Sat Apr 23, 2011 11:18 am

Donna, no large agency is perfect. But were it not for the FDA (as an example), we would still have products like this for sale over the counter:

Made with real Heroin! Helps sooth child tantrums & teething problems.

I'll take some regulation & standards over snake oil brewed in Unkle Jankies garage any day of the week.

can't sit still · Post by **can't sit still** » Sat Apr 23, 2011 1:34 pm

Donna, you have to watch out. You never know where you will find a quack.
"designed to make reporting homeopaths, chiropractors and other dubious types"
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/the-l ... 1/apr/22/2

Donna Matrix · Post by **Donna Matrix** » Sat Apr 23, 2011 2:04 pm

The CO wrote:Donna, no large agency is perfect. But were it not for the FDA (as an example), we would still have products like this for sale over the counter:

Made with real Heroin! Helps sooth child tantrums & teething problems.

I'll take some regulation & standards over snake oil brewed in Unkle Jankies garage any day of the week.

If I was Supreme Ruler I would legalize all plants or products from them [not counting derivatives that are chemically changed] and only regulate man-made products. But then again, I would mandate that producers factor in and be responsible for not only the production of the product but the decomposition of the product back to nature. NO MORE LAND FILLS. We should pay for the true cost of the production/breakdown. No more fucking junk.

Donna Matrix · Post by **Donna Matrix** » Sat Apr 23, 2011 2:06 pm

can't sit still wrote:Donna, you have to watch out. You never know where you will find a quack.
"designed to make reporting homeopaths, chiropractors and other dubious types"
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/the-l ... 1/apr/22/2

Aren't most quacks floating around in waterways?

Seriously, there is a sucker born every minute, but then stupid people are fair game, aren't they?

can't sit still · Post by **can't sit still** » Sat Apr 23, 2011 3:17 pm

"but then stupid people are fair game, aren't they?"
That opens up the question of "social Darwinism"
Nature only recognizes strength, NOT morality. Is it immoral to take advantage of stupid people? ,,, to prey on their weakness? Is it "OK" to draw the line, short of physical attacks? Is it "OK" to take advantage of stupid people if they are rich? Are we doing the gene-pool a favor by screwing the stupid?
Personally, I don't cheat anybody. It's the same as stealing. Stealing is like lying. It gets very convenient to lie all the time if one already has the habit.
Society is about getting along and mutual support. I believe that this is a worthwhile goal.
The belief hasn't hurt me yet.

Simon of the Playa · Post by **Simon of the Playa** » Sat Apr 23, 2011 3:21 pm

It gets very convenient to lie all the time if one already has the habit.

or if one continually copy pastes from unreliable, bullshit sources...

Donna Matrix · Post by **Donna Matrix** » Sat Apr 23, 2011 4:50 pm

can't sit still wrote:"but then stupid people are fair game, aren't they?"
That opens up the question of "social Darwinism"
Nature only recognizes strength, NOT morality. Is it immoral to take advantage of stupid people? ,,, to prey on their weakness? Is it "OK" to draw the line, short of physical attacks? Is it "OK" to take advantage of stupid people if they are rich? Are we doing the gene-pool a favor by screwing the stupid?
Personally, I don't cheat anybody. It's the same as stealing. Stealing is like lying. It gets very convenient to lie all the time if one already has the habit.
Society is about getting along and mutual support. I believe that this is a worthwhile goal.
The belief hasn't hurt me yet.

Back in the day, the smart ones of the community took care of the stupid ones. Now-a-days, it seems as if it's dog-eat-dog. But I do try to warn people about scams. I think we all do [most of us?], but it happens anyway. I certainly do not scam anybody. I make it a point not to do anything that could scam someone. Money is not an end game for me.

Simon of the Playa · Post by **Simon of the Playa** » Thu May 05, 2011 4:13 pm

http://current.com/news/89799784_mariju ... -shows.htm

can't sit still · Post by **can't sit still** » Thu May 05, 2011 5:39 pm

And GOV will make the bucks;
http://stopthedrugwar.org/speakeasy/200 ... annabinoid

wedeliver · Post by **wedeliver** » Thu May 05, 2011 9:51 pm

I have determined there is a conspiracy to kill people. As a matter of fact the "plan" is to kill every single one of us. This plan, who's object is to kill us all, has been around for a long, long time. Part of the plan makes it impossible to stop the plan, so it protects it self. I don't know what to do, Ya all know what I'm talking about, and you all know about this plan but not a one of you, us is able to do anything about it.....to be afraid now is just a waste of time.

can't sit still · Post by **can't sit still** » Thu May 05, 2011 10:13 pm

Take the red pill;
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healt ... anged.html

Take the blue pill;
http://www.google.com/search?q=viagara& ... 08&bih=326

can't sit still · Post by **can't sit still** » Fri May 20, 2011 6:56 pm

There was a cancer treatment that was discovered a few years ago that is making a resurgence. It's called DCA. There have been several successes reported. Here is a detailed study that only included 5 people;
http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2010/ ... a_vu_a.php
The drug appears to affect a process called glycolysis. " Exposed to DCA, cancer cells stopped making energy from sugar and resumed making it the way healthy cells do, in chambers called mitochondria. This stopped cancer cells from growing and multiplying, and caused them to wither and die instead."
http://www.newscientist.com/blogs/short ... s-and.html
Reportedly, cancer cells are not subject to apoptosis,, they don't die the "normal programed cell death" Supposedly, the DCA treatment causes the cancer cells to revert and go through apoptosis. It's very interesting research.

can't sit still · Post by **can't sit still** » Sat Jun 11, 2011 1:17 pm

This is an excellent vid on the FACT that cancer is big business. It concerns the work of Dr. Burzyinski.
It's only available for 2 more days for free. There is no doubt that cancer is big business. There is also no doubt that the cancer business would suffer a lot if a cure were actually discovered. THAT is why good treatments are forbidden. A good example is Hydrazine Sulphate. Hydrazine sulphate was studied for decades in Russia. It was a very successful treatment. It was studied at Harbor / UCLA. It was proved successful. Because of this long history of success, the National Cancer Institute finally acquiesced to study hydrogen sulphate.
Knowing the enormous financial risk to discovering a true cancer cure, the NCI had to design a testing regimen that would be sure to fail. This, they managed nicely.
http://www.hydrazinesulfate.org/part2.html

can't sit still · Post by **can't sit still** » Sun Jun 19, 2011 2:09 pm

After a 13 year delay caused by demands from industry, GOV has finally released a report showing that Formaldehyde and Styrene are carcinogenic. "Styrene has been tied up in similar political knots. Styrene is used to manufacture many plastics, latex paints, synthetic rubbers, polyesters and coatings. It is also approved for use in food-contact materials, and as an FDA-approved synthetic flavoring in ice cream and candy"
http://switchboard.nrdc.org/blogs/jsass ... eased.html

can't sit still · Post by **can't sit still** » Wed Jul 06, 2011 5:52 pm

Bad news on bacon

http://www.totalhealthbreakthroughs.com ... nsumption/

BBadger · Post by **BBadger** » Thu Jul 07, 2011 3:19 am

EL OH EL

Coming from a lunatic site called "TotalHeathBreakthroughs.com" I think the proper course of action is to eat more bacon.

Has Rense.com weighed in on the subject yet?

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