Philosophy of human civilization

[theCryptofishist]

Some people believe that we are actually getting better...

[Box Burner]

Sir you are putting words in my mouth. I am not railing against agriculture. I simply said that this is the point where the change in how men treat each other began.

I did not say that the raiding was the farmers Fault. I did not even mention raiding, you brought it up. The only one to blame for a theft is the thief. I thought that was so basic and well understood that it did not need to be mentioned. Perhaps I was wrong.

Nor have I made mention of a noble savage. But since you brought it up...

So drop these silly notions that the "noble savages of old" better represented the "ideals" at Burning Man. They were treating each other like shit long before recorded history.

I did not say hunter/gatherers better represented the Idealsof burning man. The burning man ideals are just that. Ideals. They have not been met yet. (Obviously some people do better than others. Just look at the moop map.) I said the way hunter/gatherers live together compared favorably with the burning man ideals.

As for them "treating each other like shit long before recorded history"?

PROVE IT!
Where was it written in the time before recorded history that this is so? Writing was not developed until after agriculture.

The only way to reduce the "bad things" humans do is to work on how humans choose to interact with each other.

Ding!


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[MyDearFriend]

Some people believe that we are actually getting better...

Yep. We have better communications, faster response, less ability to hide from global eyeballs. And people, being the same as we ever were, are much less apt to commit offenses where everyone can see them.

But it's not like Darwin cares or has an agenda; our MeatCake has got it quite right, as far as that goes. Natural selection rules populations as inevitably as gravity rules rocks. Our puny efforts to skew the results have meaning only in our own minds.