Is it over?

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Is it over?

Post by Captain Goddammit » Sat Jul 18, 2020 11:59 am

So, who thinks Burning Man will never recover? I think the ship is taking on water and going down.
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Re: Is it over?

Post by Elderberry » Sat Jul 18, 2020 2:30 pm

I hope not. :(
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Re: Is it over?

Post by Popeye » Sat Jul 18, 2020 2:44 pm

If Biden wins we have a good chance. If Trump wins anyone who is not mainstream is doomed.
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Re: Is it over?

Post by Sham » Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:07 pm

I am trying hard to stay optimistic. It's getting harder to do it.
If this virus is still around in January, it will continue to flair up.
How do you keep people and infrastructure together if 2021 doesn't happen?

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Re: Is it over?

Post by Ugly Dougly » Sat Jul 18, 2020 7:35 pm

e·phem·er·al
/əˈfem(ə)rəl/
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lasting for a very short time.

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Re: Is it over?

Post by DoctorIknow » Sat Jul 18, 2020 9:55 pm

Captain Goddammit wrote:
Sat Jul 18, 2020 11:59 am
So, who thinks Burning Man will never recover? I think the ship is taking on water and going down.
BMORG is addressing the fact there may be no BlackRockCity in 2021.
Today, Lollapalozza said probably not 'till 2022.

This fall, I need to move to a smaller warehouse space and thinking all BM stuff should be Marie Kondo-ized.

If there is TTITD in the future, I can do what I promised myself I'd never do: rent an RV... on the other hand, just the thought of it makes me think I'll never carry out that sacrilege.

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Re: It’s never over

Post by Simon of the Playa » Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:23 am

burning man is 24/7/365.

we are everywhere. all the time.
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Re: Is it over?

Post by Luigi » Sun Jul 19, 2020 7:13 am

Captain, I have been thinking the same thing. BMORG's rainy day fund will be gone, and gatherings of this sort are the most risky way to exposure yourself to covid. My neighbor doctor says 'three years' of this new way of life.

It may not be gone, but is sure will be different.

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Re: Is it over?

Post by jneilvindy » Sun Jul 19, 2020 8:47 am

I'm not sure I'd be all that upset to have been part of something so unique. And to have been there for the last year of TTITD after Larry had passed and had a chance to say thanks and goodbye is a good memory for me.

I wanna go back. I'd love to go back. But I'm old enough to know now that nothing last forever and that everything changes. And that's not such a bad thing really.

Heck, isn't that what burning man was really telling us year after year? Burn it down and build it new? It's the moment. Not the journey or the destination that really matters. It's where we're at now and the people around us that matter.

I'm really just trying to convince myself that covid is like a whiteout. Just hunkering down and waiting for it to pass!

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Re: Is it over?

Post by Captain Goddammit » Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:20 am

I think the Org will go bankrupt, and no matter how out of touch with normal reality I think they all are, without the Org handling all the red tape and hassles involved with having such a large scale event, it just can’t happen.
That’s why I think it’s done.
I suppose eplaya will disappear too.
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Re: Is it over?

Post by Sham » Sun Jul 19, 2020 10:09 am

Captain Goddammit wrote:
Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:20 am
I suppose eplaya will disappear too.
eplaya will disappear when the last moderator passes on. 8)

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Re: Is it over?

Post by Simon of the Playa » Sun Jul 19, 2020 11:22 am

we’ve been virtual burning here for decades already.


this has been the longest performance art piece ever.


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Re: Is it over?

Post by Captain Goddammit » Sun Jul 19, 2020 12:18 pm

I wonder how long the burner culture and social circles will last, after Burning Man doesn’t exist.
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Re: Is it over?

Post by Token » Sun Jul 19, 2020 2:51 pm

Captain Goddammit wrote:
Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:20 am
I think the Org will go bankrupt, and no matter how out of touch with normal reality I think they all are, without the Org handling all the red tape and hassles involved with having such a large scale event, it just can’t happen.
That’s why I think it’s done.
I suppose eplaya will disappear too.
I doubt they use bankruptcy as a tool unless they have long-term contracts or leases that need to get out of.

Too much equity with Fly and other properties they own to risk that path.

The LLC can be pared down to the glitterati managing the few viable non-profits like BWB and the likes with a dozen or so folks left to survive on donations and whatnot.

Pretty sure they can all get day-jobs and work a skeleton operation on weekends for the foreseeable future of The Rona crisis.

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Re: Is it over?

Post by Token » Sun Jul 19, 2020 2:54 pm

Captain Goddammit wrote:
Sun Jul 19, 2020 12:18 pm
I wonder how long the burner culture and social circles will last, after Burning Man doesn’t exist.
I ain’t been to the Playa in 10 years and my culture is strong! Come closer and smell all that culture!

Haven’t washed my truck since 2010 and it still got that Playa-AC!

Besides, I’m the same FKO I was in 2000, maybe even more so.

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Re: Is it over?

Post by Ugly Dougly » Sun Jul 19, 2020 6:04 pm

en·tro·py
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1. Physics. A thermodynamic quantity representing the unavailability of a system's thermal energy for conversion into mechanical work, often interpreted as the degree of disorder or randomness in the system.
2. Lack of order or predictability; gradual decline into disorder.

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Re: Is it over?

Post by Simon of the Playa » Mon Jul 20, 2020 5:38 am

it ain’t over til the Mu says its over.


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Re: Is it over?

Post by Canoe » Mon Jul 20, 2020 5:41 pm

Over until there's an effective and affordable vaccine available in quantity.
Everything else is just details.
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Re: Is it over?

Post by Simon of the Playa » Thu Jul 23, 2020 4:32 am

Everything else is just details.

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Re: It’s never over

Post by Savannah » Fri Jul 24, 2020 11:45 pm

Simon of the Playa wrote:
Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:23 am
burning man is 24/7/365.

we are everywhere. all the time.

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Re: Is it over?

Post by Ballpark » Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:49 pm

I sure hope not but I’m doubting it will re-appear. I wouldn’t be surprised if it morphs into another event in a different location. The BLM is creating headaches for BMP. They really need a reality check. Hopefully a couple of years without the revenue stream will open their eyes.
I think people need a getaway like this event to wind up to unwind.
Let’s hope for a vaccine by 2021.

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Re: Is it over?

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Re: Is it over?

Post by Simon of the Playa » Sat Aug 01, 2020 5:24 am

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Re: Is it over?

Post by Skuzzy61 » Thu Aug 06, 2020 5:54 pm

I don't know Captn. This will be a test of the BMORG's radical self-reliance. If they want to extend the length of time before cash runs out,. then relocate to a cheaper place to live and support. Talking the ORG itself.

Even if the full time staff fails it all, I think there are enough volunteers to man the helm, for nothing. It might be the best thing to happen to the BMORG.

I know I am looking at it optimistically. It certainly could go the way of the dodo. If it does, it will be due to dodo's. There are many ways to keep a non-profit afloat without cash.

Don't forget the state of Nevada will be missing a large cash infusion in that area. I think the businesses in the area missing that annual infusion of cash are going to be a noisy group.

Then again, I could be full of poo.
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Re: Is it over?

Post by Miura-7 » Fri Aug 07, 2020 8:54 am

Get to the core of what's important? A boat, within a boat, within a boat, and a flying submarine. You'll survive. There are alot of great minds in your arsonal. Don't let them go down with the "Titanic." Have we learned nothing?

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