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Nitrous Oxide

Post by DaddyMassive » Mon Jun 30, 2008 1:56 pm

What's the legal position on NO in California & Nevada?
Can it be obtained easily and not a problem if it's found on your person?

In the UK it's tenuous. It's used in all sorts and can be bought but they're obliged to refuse sale if they think you're going to use it for recreational purposes.

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Post by MikeVDS » Mon Jun 30, 2008 2:54 pm

It's probably similar here. You can apparently get breathable quality at some high performance racing shops. It's completely legal in that case. I'm not sure if things change if you start breathing it in. Just be discrete, as with anything else.
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Post by Teo del Fuego » Mon Jun 30, 2008 3:35 pm

what is the attraction for huffing nitrous oxide? I've tried it and in every instance, failed to note any effect whatsoever. Are some people immune to it's effects. And what are those supposed effects anyway?

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Post by DaddyMassive » Mon Jun 30, 2008 4:13 pm

I've certainly had duff trips and I've met a few people that don't get any effect.
But I've also pushed enough on people who've done it wrong then got it right.
I don't think people could be immune.

In the UK we tend to use balloons filled with wripping cream canisters.
You empty your lungs with a serious of deep exhales.
Suck down the balloon & hold your breath for a few seconds...
Then reinflate with the contents of your lungs, suck it up immediately then hold your breath, **close your eyes** and make sure you're sat down comfortably.
Then let go of your breath as late as you can.

Your hearing will go funny. Kinda like sound crunching up and coming off and on. I oftern then get this odd visual (eyes closed) where I'm seeing two converging line getting closer by never meeting accomanied by a high pitched sound.
Sound starts to come back, I feel very blissed out, comfortable & everything has a rosey glow.
You can keep your eyes open while doing it and things look very nice, but the eyes closed way seems stronger.
It's quite an inward high too.. was a little scary the first couple of times as there was a sense of isolation, but once you're used to it you crave it. :P
Best thing is the whole thing lasts about 30 seconds and you can get up and function 'legally' straight away.

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Post by Simon of the Playa » Mon Jun 30, 2008 4:24 pm

back when i was extremely self-destructive, as opposed to kinda self-destructive, i would take a huge hit of medical nitrous and then enter a freeway ramp.....

by the time you are about to merge, you are also inches away from passing out.

the purple comes in from the sides, and you have to fight it to retain consciousness.

meanwhile, you're laughing hysterically.

not for the faint of heart, or for anyone of any intelligence whatsoever.

like i said, i had issues when i was younger...i still do, just not the same ones.
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Post by DaddyMassive » Mon Jun 30, 2008 4:44 pm

I think we have a different delivery system here :D
Plus I'm normaly in someones front room when I go for it.

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Post by EspressoDude » Mon Jun 30, 2008 6:12 pm

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see above for danger of nitrous or any compressed gas cylinders.........
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Post by cowboyangel » Mon Jun 30, 2008 6:42 pm

For Christ Sake don't ever throw the fucking canister in a burn barrel or similar such place, last year a guy named Sebastian's wife was seriously injured by an exploding cannister in a burn barrel. This is true I know Sebastian. He's still paying medical bills.
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Post by gyre » Mon Jun 30, 2008 7:13 pm

You can buy all you want in medical grade for racing, but I think they add something to make it unpleasant when inhaled.

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Post by gyre » Mon Jun 30, 2008 7:17 pm

DaddyMassive wrote:I've certainly had duff trips and I've met a few people that don't get any effect.
But I've also pushed enough on people who've done it wrong then got it right.
I don't think people could be immune.

In the UK we tend to use balloons filled with wripping cream canisters.
You empty your lungs with a serious of deep exhales.
Suck down the balloon & hold your breath for a few seconds...
Then reinflate with the contents of your lungs, suck it up immediately then hold your breath, **close your eyes** and make sure you're sat down comfortably.
Then let go of your breath as late as you can.

Your hearing will go funny. Kinda like sound crunching up and coming off and on. I oftern then get this odd visual (eyes closed) where I'm seeing two converging line getting closer by never meeting accomanied by a high pitched sound.
Sound starts to come back, I feel very blissed out, comfortable & everything has a rosey glow.
You can keep your eyes open while doing it and things look very nice, but the eyes closed way seems stronger.
It's quite an inward high too.. was a little scary the first couple of times as there was a sense of isolation, but once you're used to it you crave it. :P
Best thing is the whole thing lasts about 30 seconds and you can get up and function 'legally' straight away.
Nitrous oxide without oxygen is known as suffocation.
Incremental brain damage is possible.

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Post by theCryptofishist » Mon Jun 30, 2008 7:31 pm

cowboyangel wrote:This is true I know Sebastian. He's still paying medical bills.
Did he ever get work? What about her? Is there any updates you can give us?
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Post by DaddyMassive » Tue Jul 01, 2008 3:22 am

I read the story several months ago... very very unfortunate.
I can assure you all I respect peoples physical wellbeing enough that I don't ever get involved in that kind of arsehat behaviour.

I'd be looking to use catering canister, keep them at the bottom of an ice box & I would be taking the unused & spent cartridges off-site with me.

Regarding brain damage, isn't that what one of the core tenants of BM?
Dehydrate in the desert heat, see a bit of art while perv at naked chicks and jar your chemical-addled brain to IQ 70 with head bangin' techno??

OK, sorry, I'm being trollish now.

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Post by gyre » Tue Jul 01, 2008 3:45 am

Nitrous is always supposed to be mixed with oxygen.
You can duplicate the bliss of suffocation with much less gear.

With pure nitrous, the risk is death, not brain damage.
Check out the dental office.
Always an oxygen tank in the rig.

I would suggest sticking with medical grade too.

There's plenty of risk without going out of your way for it.
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Post by Captain Goddammit » Tue Jul 01, 2008 6:11 am

It's called Darwinism; You're a moron who huffs nitrous, you suffocate and die, world gene pool improves.
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Post by JezebelinHell » Tue Jul 01, 2008 6:50 am

Haven't you seen Idiocracy? Our gene pool is fucking doomed!
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Post by gyre » Tue Jul 01, 2008 7:19 am

De-evolution.
That's where Devo got the name.

I wish I could find that early store video they had.
I've never seen it since.
I think it had the principles of de-evolution on it.

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Post by DaddyMassive » Tue Jul 01, 2008 7:57 am

Jesus..I never realised there was such a stigma with Nos.

I'll play it safe and stick to smack.

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Post by gyre » Tue Jul 01, 2008 8:04 am

Not stigma, just common sense about it.
You have to be aware that there is no oxygen in that container.
People have been aggressive enough with this stuff to die.
People have died in hospitals when the oxygen was cutoff to the nitrous mix.
I've had it in the dentist and it's more fun with oxygen anyhow.


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Post by lonestoner916 » Tue Jul 01, 2008 8:07 am

gyre wrote:Not stigma, just common sense about it.
You have to be aware that there is no oxygen in that container.
People have been aggressive enough with this stuff to die.
People have died in hospitals when the oxygen was cutoff to the nitrous mix.
I've had it in the dentist and it's more fun with oxygen anyhow.


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Post by JezebelinHell » Tue Jul 01, 2008 8:34 am

It's common sense really. The best bet is to just keep the balloons out of the equation altogether. If you're inhaling and exhaling the same air over and over again, and there was no oxygen in that balloon to begin with, you run a risk of seriously fucking yourself up.

Most of my friends and I partake in the occasion round of n2o and we always just do them straight out of the cracker (a whipped cream dispenser, just so no idiot thinks they can crack something that cold straight into their lungs). Just make sure you breathe between hits and you'll be fine. To be fair to drug-users, I have a friend who does boxes of n2o at a time, along with a plethora of other mind-altering substances, and he just got back from the National Engineering Competition where he took first prize. I think you just need to know how many braincells you can spare, and tailor your drug use accordingly.
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Post by DaddyMassive » Tue Jul 01, 2008 9:34 am

Only reported death in the UK in the recreational sense was when some sub IQ100 clown (on his own) was connected up to a big bottle via a mask.
He suffocated cos he was strapped into a machine denying him oxygen.

Other people have had injuries falling over but it's an anasthetic so they get what they deserve for lack of common sense.

The method I describes denys oxygen for no more than 20-30 seconds & you've oxygenated your blood breathing in and out beforehand. Then when you stop holding your Nos breath you're free to breath again.
By no means am I asphixiating myself on just Nos..

I've personally done it over 100 times and between me and my friends and their friends we've done this method countless times with zero side effects.
We do no more than two hits an hour over-use gives a weaker effect therefore it's worth waiting.

Maybe my description is flawed or you guys are imagining me walking around with an aqua-lung of the stuff.
Whatever the case thanks for the input.

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Post by Teo del Fuego » Tue Jul 01, 2008 9:47 am

okay, again I ask...does this shit make you high? Does it make you laugh? Ive been at parties were folks were doing cartloads of this and no one was laughing. Not that Im gonna run out and do it again, but just curious why folks bother with it.

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Post by JezebelinHell » Tue Jul 01, 2008 11:00 am

It makes me laugh, but I can't attest for everyone else. When I'm not laughing on the stuff I'm usually grinning from ear to ear and quite blissfully happy. It's the highest I've ever been (and I had some pretty wild college years) but it only lasts for fifteen seconds, which is probably a good thing. I've never heard of anyone being immune to it, but anything's possible.
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Post by EvilDustBooger » Tue Jul 01, 2008 11:44 am

You have to inhale for it to work....

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Post by misfit » Tue Jul 01, 2008 12:21 pm

>>>>I'll play it safe and stick to smack.<<<<

probably best....

can i subsitute sweet potato, for pumkin.?....
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Post by dj_john69 » Tue Jul 01, 2008 12:31 pm

gyre wrote:You can buy all you want in medical grade for racing, but I think they add something to make it unpleasant when inhaled.
There are actually 2 grades of nos.

There is the medical/food grade which is found from medical offices to ice cream trucks to whipped cream canisters. This kind is considered okay for human consumption. This is the non oil base.

Then you have the racing kind used strictly for engines and race cars which is an oil base. This is the one you don't want to huff !!

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Post by thirt33n » Tue Jul 01, 2008 12:46 pm

feels like you got punched and the world is pulsating and giving you hugs and you cannot control your need to smile.

thing is, there is no punch or pain. just the part after the punch.

i can't do more than a few a year
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Post by ZaphodBurner » Tue Jul 01, 2008 3:58 pm

Teo del Fuego wrote:okay, again I ask...does this shit make you high? Does it make you laugh? Ive been at parties were folks were doing cartloads of this and no one was laughing. Not that Im gonna run out and do it again, but just curious why folks bother with it.
The most it ever did for me was make me feel like Beavis. I guess I don't get it either but I have adult friends with adult kids who have done it together, so, whatever. The last group I saw doing it--musicians--inhaled from a balloon, held it, exhaled into a plastic bag and then rebreathed that once or twice. No biggie. They were fine a moment or so afterward.

The most intense bank for your buck is Salvia Divinorum which is legal in Oregon, but, most of the hardcore trippers I gave mine away to won't touch it after once or twice 'cause it makes other psychedelics seem like a mellow beer buzz. It's a shaman drug rather than a party substance and most people seem to describe out-of-body experiences or spirits pulling at them for about ten minutes. Take a trip, never leave the farm and all that. Basically, it kicks your ass. You can't even really move.
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Post by gyre » Tue Jul 01, 2008 5:36 pm

dj_john69 wrote:
gyre wrote:You can buy all you want in medical grade for racing, but I think they add something to make it unpleasant when inhaled.
There are actually 2 grades of nos.

There is the medical/food grade which is found from medical offices to ice cream trucks to whipped cream canisters. This kind is considered okay for human consumption. This is the non oil base.

Then you have the racing kind used strictly for engines and race cars which is an oil base. This is the one you don't want to huff !!
The supplier here uses medical grade with an additive.
I don't remember what they add to it since I decided not to use nitrous on my car.
There is probably no requirement to use that grade though.
How is it made from an oil base?

In the dentists, with a sustained period of time with oxygen, I get audio hallucinations and minor visual.
Seemed much more entertaining than a big single dose.
I could feel when the oxygen was too high or too low too.
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