Who Am I ?

wonderphil · Post by **wonderphil** » Tue Sep 23, 2008 8:16 pm

Who Am I ?

I am under 45 years old,
I love the outdoors,
I hunt,
I am a Republican reformer,
I have taken on the Republican Party
establishment,
I have many children,
I have a spot on the national ticket as vice
president with less than two years in the
governor's office.

Did you guess?

I am Teddy Roosevelt in 1900

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Tue Sep 23, 2008 9:07 pm

And when the party is seduced by Satan, you leave it.

And you have been Secretary of the Navy.

karine · Post by **karine** » Tue Sep 23, 2008 9:10 pm

And your dog, Pete, ripped a French ambassador's pants off at the White House! Naughty puppy...

Simon of the Playa · Post by **Simon of the Playa** » Tue Sep 23, 2008 11:12 pm

phil, you can put all the caramel you want on top, even a cherry and some whipped cream, but you cannot hide the fact that Sarah Palin is a Shit Sundae...

teddy roosevelt my ass.

wonderphil · Post by **wonderphil** » Tue Sep 23, 2008 11:47 pm

Simon of the Playa wrote:phil, you can put all the caramel you want on top, even a cherry and some whipped cream, but you cannot hide the fact that Sarah Palin is a Shit Sundae...

teddy roosevelt my ass.

What you say is funny and is part of what makes a free country, we can speak our "so called minds"

Badger · Post by **Badger** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:14 am

Did you guess?

I am Teddy Roosevelt in 1900

Nope. No you're not.

You expect us to feel some sort of nostalgic comfort that the Republican nominee has tagged a feel good, creationist, moose hunting, hick as his co-pilot so that she can fly the planet further into the fucking ditch after he dies in office.

Please don't feel too offended when I suggest you go fuck yourself and your smarmy statistical coincidental bullshit.

You shouldn't be allowed to fucking vote based on such a sophomoric post - you waddling penguin brain asstard.

Simon of the Playa · Post by **Simon of the Playa** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 1:29 am

*raises power fist in the air*

*respect*

ygmir · Post by **ygmir** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 6:12 am

It's interesting to see how vitriolic these retorts can become, and, myopic the arguments........
is there no room for divergent opinion?
Of course, the fun is in the disagreement, but, geeze........

Are you guys really this angry?

lurker · Post by **lurker** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 7:23 am

In the end, Ygmir, it does not matter, for existence is Chaos. We pull meaty gobbets from that Chaos and pretend it is Order.

But it is not.

Some seek to control that Chaos, to guide it and make it 'safe'. And their anger knows no bounds.

Others seek to sink into that Chaos and become one with it's swirling miasma--but they have nowhere to sink, because thay are already a part of it--and their anger knows no bounds.

And others see what they are, and where they are and aim for the choicest cuts--though they know that they are STILL only getting Chaos. And they live in bliss.

Someone will be elected president, and they'll pull their Vice with them. And they'll do things. And we will have to live with it.

ygmir · Post by **ygmir** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 7:26 am

very poetic, and, good thoughts, thanks lurker..........

Apollonaris Zeus · Post by **Apollonaris Zeus** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 9:42 am

wonderphil wrote:Who Am I ?

I am under 45 years old,
I love the outdoors,
I hunt,
I am a Republican reformer,
I have taken on the Republican Party
establishment,
I have many children,
I have a spot on the national ticket as vice
president with less than two years in the
governor's office.

Did you guess?

I am Teddy Roosevelt in 1900

Yes and before he was the Governor he part the United States Civil Service Commission, where he served until 1895

Roosevelt became president of the board of New York City Police Commissioners in 1895. Here he fought with the corrupt Tammany Hall Democrats that controlled government and the corrupt police department in NY.

President William McKinley appointed a delighted Roosevelt to the post of Assistant Secretary of the Navy in 1897

Upon the 1898 Declaration of War launching the Spanish-American War, Roosevelt resigned from the Navy Department. With the aid of U.S. Army Colonel Leonard Wood, Roosevelt found volunteers from cowboys from the Western territories to Ivy League friends from New York, forming the First U.S. Volunteer Cavalry Regiment. The newspapers called them the "Rough Riders."

Roosevelt was elected governor of New York in 1898 as a Republican.

Supreme Court appointments

Roosevelt appointed the following Justices to the Supreme Court of the United States:

* Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr. â€“ 1902
* William Rufus Day â€“ 1903
* William Henry Moody â€“ 1906
Oliver Holmes would eventually be considered the great justice in history and defined the laws under the consitution. Today he would be considered a ACTIVIST JUDGE!

Teddy had a history of Government involvement long before he was considered to be Vice-Pres.

Today all you have to be is a soccer mom and a mayor of an insignificant small town.

She's the perfect puppet but allot better to look at then GW Bush.

BUT SHE IS NO THEODORE ROOSEVELT!!!!
AIIZ

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 9:54 am

ygmir wrote: Are you guys really this angry?

I've hated these cutsey trick questions ever since

Congratulations, you've just killed Beethoven.

Dishonesty makes lots of people angry.

Post by **Elderberry** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 10:13 am

Academic Background:

Theodore Roosevelt: Bachelor of arts degree (cum laude) in history and government from Harvard College (1880). Attended Columbia Law School (1880-82). Author of numerous works on history and politics, including The Naval War of 1812 (required reading at the U.S. Naval Academy), Life of Thomas Hart Benton, Life of Gouverneur Morris, Essays in Practical Politics, The Winning of the West (four volumes), History of New York, Hero Tales from American History, American Ideals, and The Rough Riders.

Sarah Palin: Bachelor of science degree in communications-journalism from the University of Idaho (1987).

Law Enforcement/Military Experience:

Theodore Roosevelt: Deputy sheriff in the Dakota Territory, police commissioner of New York City, captain in the New York National Guard, colonel with the 1st US Volunteer Cavalry Regiment, veteran of the Spanish-American War.

Sarah Palin: None.

Political Experience:

Theodore Roosevelt: Member of New York state assembly, U.S. civil service commissioner, New York City police commissioner, Assistant Secretary of the Navy, governor of New York.

Sara Palin: City council member and mayor of Wasilla, Alaska; governor of Alaska.

Apollonaris Zeus · Post by **Apollonaris Zeus** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 10:17 am

jkisha wrote: Sarah Palin: Bachelor of science degree in communications-journalism from the University of Idaho (1987).

the new Great Communicator!

betrdanevr · Post by **betrdanevr** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 10:30 am

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/2 ... 22400.html

Sarah Palin: Former Beauty Queen, Future VP? (PHOTOS)

Who is Sarah Palin? Here's a quick rundown of her resumÃ©: she's the former point guard and captain of the Wasilla (Alaska) High School Warriors who went on to become Miss Wasilla 1984 before working as a local news sports reporter who then served as city councilwoman and mayor of the town of about 9,000 before being elected governor of her home state just two years ago. Take a look back at the woman who failed to become Miss Alaska, but, if elected, would be a heartbeat away from becoming President of the United States of America.

gyre · Post by **gyre** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 10:31 am

Amazing Facts

Abraham Lincoln had an adviser named Palin.

Palin once threw up in the back of a Lincoln.

Teddy Roosevelt was once a President and writer.

Palin has a teddy bear and wants to be President.

Apollonaris Zeus · Post by **Apollonaris Zeus** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 10:42 am

I hear she has a Dildo named Teddy!

Her motto will be, "Scream loudly and carry a big Dildo!

Of course I'm only kidding!

AIIZ

lurker · Post by **lurker** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 11:42 am

okay, so THIS particular Republican isn't subject to all the vitriol? You all love him?

or is he just ok because he's dead?

In this, as in all elections, some of us will be having to deal with someone we didn't vote for being our President. Why does this make you all so mad?

Would you prefer no choice at all?

Apollonaris Zeus · Post by **Apollonaris Zeus** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 11:49 am

lurker wrote:okay, so THIS particular Republican isn't subject to all the vitriol? You all love him?

or is he just ok because he's dead?

Don't love him, just highly respect him!

The republican party of today is in no way the party of TODAYS Republicans.

What Teddy did, the Republicans of TODAY have dismantled every market regulation that he and others before the Great Communicator came in with the TODAYS

Deregulation!

If Teddy was alive today, He would be a Democrat 100%.

Obama is going to be that Teddy for us!

AIIZ

betrdanevr · Post by **betrdanevr** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:21 pm

lurker wrote: Would you prefer no choice at all?

Interesting that you should say this since you said all politicians smell like shit -- which, admittedly, they do, to one extent or another.

Everybody wants a choice. A viable choice would be preferable. Not somebody who could reduce the guilt of those who would refuse to vote for a qualified black man because they can then say, "See? I'm not preduced! I voted for a WOMAN, God damn it!"

Ugly Dougly · Post by **Ugly Dougly** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 1:05 pm

Has anyone said conservationist and trustbuster yet?

Creating the National Parks System versus seeking to make them into industrial zones.

Ugly Dougly · Post by **Ugly Dougly** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 1:08 pm

ygmir wrote:It's interesting to see how vitriolic these retorts can become, and, myopic the arguments........
is there no room for divergent opinion?
Of course, the fun is in the disagreement, but, geeze........

Are you guys really this angry?

Are you really that sensitive?

ygmir · Post by **ygmir** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 2:01 pm

sensitive, no,
curious, yes.

again,
I love the disagreement, and conversation it engenders.

and,
if the hatred spewed forth is most just for fun, I'm all there, too......

I just can't see getting that angry over it all.....
hence, the question.

are you really that concerned?

lurker · Post by **lurker** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 3:07 pm

Of course they are THAT concerned....just look---

If Teddy was alive today, He would be a Democrat 100%.

And there's repubs who say JFK would be one of them. Does that make it true? Who knows? Who cares?

But AIIZ wants a 'pubby like Teddy....

Everybody wants a choice. A viable choice would be preferable. Not somebody who could reduce the guilt of those who would refuse to vote for a qualified black man because they can then say, "See? I'm not preduced! I voted for a WOMAN, God damn it!"

I'd vote for a qualified black man--if there was one running. All I can see is politicians. And we know what THEY smell like...

But why is race important? Why do you care about the amount of melanin in someones' skin? Aren't ideas more important? I bet they are, to you. I bet that if a qualified black man was running as a republican, and all the righties liked him, I bet you'd find some reason to withhold your vote from THAT type of qualified black man. I bet you'd be going on about how his ideas and experience makes him less qualified.....but you've no problem imputing racism in those who do as you would do.

And how do I know this? I can count on the fingers of one nostril the number of times prominent black and/or liberal organizations have loudly advocated abandoning the white, Democrat candidate in favor of the black Republican...

And here's the funny thing. Republicans dislike Obama--more than they dislike McCain......so the only worries about people not voting for a qualified black man because of his race that Obama needs to bother about come from his own side of the political spectrum. The righties weren't going to vote for him anyway. Regardless of his color--it's that 'D' after his name, republicans and righties usually go for the one with the 'R'.

Has anyone said conservationist and trustbuster yet?

Theodore Roosevelt was a conservationist and a hunter. He knew that if you enjoyed going out to kill things for fun, you need somewhere to go out to. And so we have National Parks. Thanks, Teddy!

Of course, when modern hunters say similar things they get snarled at by PETAphiles and Sierra clubbies....

So, yeah, Ygmir, they're concerned, and sensitive, and angry--because their guy smells just as shitty as everyone else running--- and they don't really mind

Teo del Fuego · Post by **Teo del Fuego** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 3:34 pm

ygmir wrote:I just can't see getting that angry over it all.....

There is no short supply of angry people in this world.

Angry people tend to have a lot of "alone time" and folks with a lot of alone time tend to gravitate toward arguments on the internet.

People who attacked you with such venom are people riddled with low self-esteem.

I don't like Palin one bit, but I didn't see your post as a ringing endorsement of her, and even if it were, who cares?

gyre · Post by **gyre** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 4:30 pm

Hey, I'm angry all the time about something.
Part of being alive.
And sometimes my steem is just fine.
Often I'm quite cheerful anyway.

And I'm much less polite off the interweb.

I'm writing an angry letter to the paper now about the latest monkeyshines of the prosecutors office here.
I'm calling them unethical criminals, you know, because it's true.
Just making new friends.

Badger · Post by **Badger** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 6:32 pm

There is no short supply of angry people in this world.

Angry people tend to have a lot of "alone time" and folks with a lot of alone time tend to gravitate toward arguments on the internet.

People who attacked you with such venom are people riddled with low self-esteem.

Thank you for that Dr. Teo del Freud.

BTW, where should I mail my nickle to?

Apollonaris Zeus · Post by **Apollonaris Zeus** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 9:40 pm

JFK a Republican.

There was a time when when there were no official party platforms and reformist came from both parties.

I didn't think that JFK was all that great anyway. The vietnam war was his doing.

Another reason I don't love Teddy is that he was a imperialist and a racist.

I don't love the guy, I just respect him.

AIIZ

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 10:00 pm

At least he came out against The Great War in the end.

ygmir · Post by **ygmir** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 10:07 pm

theCryptofishist wrote:At least he came out against The Great War in the end.

you mean WW1?

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