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Post by Box Burner » Tue May 26, 2009 11:14 pm

I was wrong about the republicans and democrats being the two sides of a wooden nickel. they are the two sides of a paper nickel.
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Post by ygmir » Wed May 27, 2009 6:38 am

Box Burner wrote:I was wrong about the republicans and democrats being the two sides of a wooden nickel. they are the two sides of a paper nickel.
*stands next to BB, raising hand, nodding in agreement*
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Post by can't sit still » Wed May 27, 2009 6:53 am

"In the great tradition of political movements rising against arrogant, corrupt elites, there will soon be a party of people rooting out the party of government. This party may be Republican; it may be Democratic; in some states it may be a third party. The politicians have been warned."
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Post by ygmir » Wed May 27, 2009 6:59 am

Newt, quite often, has some good things to say.......IMHO..........
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Post by cowboyangel » Wed May 27, 2009 8:12 am

The system is hopelessly corrupt, perhaps beyond repair.
Truckers may be the key in staging country-wide work stoppages, but people have to eat. People will be forced to organize, let's just hope that is along bank reform, end the Fed lines, that kind of stuff, instead of right wing hate groups, but that'll probably happen too. Get to know your neighbors.
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Post by ygmir » Wed May 27, 2009 8:24 am

cowboyangel wrote:The system is hopelessly corrupt, perhaps beyond repair.
Truckers may be the key in staging country-wide work stoppages, but people have to eat. People will be forced to organize, let's just hope that is along bank reform, end the Fed lines, that kind of stuff, instead of right wing hate groups, but that'll probably happen too. Get to know your neighbors.
don't leave out the left wing hate groups...........don't deny they exist.......
just as plentiful and dangerous........

Yeah, truckers would be the key..............it'll hurt urban dwellers more.........
That will make for some messy business, IMHO.........

How about a constitutional convention? Now, that's stir the pot...........
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Post by cowboyangel » Wed May 27, 2009 12:41 pm

they will let us rot rather than make any meaningful changes. The people have to take control of their own lives and form neighbor networks to help out. I once believed that Burning Man could be the model for this, but now, I don't think so anymore. When I asked one of the Burners Without Borders how big their numbers were, she said maybe a dozen hard core. I hope that's wrong. If it ain't, it's telling.
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Post by Toolmaker » Wed May 27, 2009 12:55 pm

cowboyangel wrote:they will let us rot rather than make any meaningful changes. The people have to take control of their own lives and form neighbor networks to help out. I once believed that Burning Man could be the model for this, but now, I don't think so anymore.
This is what first attracted me to Burningman. What keeps me attracted is the people that are longtime burners, the fire, and the mutants. (properly mutated of course with a few exceptions)
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Post by can't sit still » Fri May 29, 2009 7:46 am

California seems to have pissed off Obama :lol:
http://ciaran-gallagher.blogspot.com/20 ... ht-to.html
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Post by Elderberry » Fri May 29, 2009 11:16 am

can't sit still wrote:California seems to have pissed off Obama :lol:
http://ciaran-gallagher.blogspot.com/20 ... ht-to.html
Hmmm...something doesn't ring true on that story.

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Post by can't sit still » Fri May 29, 2009 3:04 pm

Well, it doesn't look to be a complete BS.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.c ... 176LK9.DTL
I'm sure that GOV will complain about it's constitutional rights being trampled on :lol:
Like Goebbels said,,, get em young.
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Post by can't sit still » Fri May 29, 2009 7:15 pm

Socialism at it's best;
"Maryland couldn't balance its budget last year, so the state tried to close the shortfall by fleecing the wealthy"
"The Baltimore Sun predicted the rich would "grin and bear it.""
"One-third of the millionaires have disappeared from Maryland tax rolls."
"Instead of the state coffers gaining the extra $106 million the politicians predicted, millionaires paid $100 million less in taxes than they did last year -- even at higher rates."

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124329282377252471.html
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Post by can't sit still » Fri May 29, 2009 7:34 pm

Is it march yet??
"“Most of you know that I have opposed this war from the start. I thought it was a tragic mistake. That’s why I have a plan that will bring our combat troops home by March of 2009.â€
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Post by lurker » Tue Jun 02, 2009 8:16 am

People keep saying BO's gonna institute socialism....but I'm pretty sure that it was a different system where the government pulled the strings while businesses were allowed to remain 'private'......I know thare's a name for that.

Oh well.

Since the inaguration, it's been like Christmas every day. I wake up and rush downstairs with my loved ones and we gather around to see what new atrocity Obama has commited against the Constitution while we slept. He'd better pace himself--he's gonna run out of Constitution long before he runs for President-for-Life. And then where wil we be?

'Volunteers' in the upgraded Americorps!! Hurray!

And the good news is we'll never get old--because 'Universal Healthcare' won't be provided to older 'reesources' because they comsume far more than their fair share. So we'll be dead--the better to make way for future, more progressive generations!
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Post by ygmir » Tue Jun 02, 2009 8:18 am

hey Lurker, where ya been?

Am I asking the obvious?......or being redundant?..........
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Post by lurker » Tue Jun 02, 2009 9:24 am

I've been getting my brain minced into compliance. Now I too happily mumble obamaobamaobama with the faithful! Soon, you will too!

Soon, they're gonna give Simon and Jkisha some liquid....that's what they said liquid...liqidy...liquefy......something like that. It's the Ayers Plan!

From here on it it's all happiness and joy until we're told we're no longer useful! And then we'll have our medical care witheld! Joy!

Hail Obama!
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Post by cowboyangel » Tue Jun 02, 2009 1:17 pm

Gitmo
Larry Summers and Tiny- Kissinger and Associates- Geithner
capitulation to the 7% of the coal industry that kills W. VA with mountain top removal
Refusal to publish torture pics and secret wiretap conversations to a federal judge
the bailsout
more bailouts
big gifts to the IMF
testicle-less credit card reform bill
single payer trash canned
More billions for Iraq and Afghanistan
Drone bombing of pesky Afghan civilians
Same old
Same old oh,
and Same old

Fuck Mr. Change and his phony promises and his lack of courage.
Martin Luther King is crying in his goddamn grave.
Fuck you uncle tom obama
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Post by franklampard » Wed Jun 03, 2009 12:40 am

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Late Night Hosts On Obama Being Elected President

“See, I got to admit, as a comedian, I’m gonna miss President Bush. Because Barack Obama is not easy to do jokes about. He doesn’t give you a lot to go on. See, this is why God gave us Joe Biden.â€

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Post by Ugly Dougly » Wed Jun 03, 2009 9:45 am

I had a dream that they were combing through the wreckage of Air Force One.
I hope that's not prophetic. :(

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Post by Simon of the Playa » Wed Jun 03, 2009 11:00 am

BITE your barbarian tongue, Dougly.


i've got two VERY SCARY words for that nightmare.
























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Post by ygmir » Wed Jun 03, 2009 11:03 am

shuddering........
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Post by cowboyangel » Thu Jun 04, 2009 12:18 am

He's a minor player. The major players are the big bank ceos and their global counterparts. Banks run the world, don't doubt it for a second.
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Post by Elderberry » Thu Jun 04, 2009 12:21 am

cowboyangel wrote:He's a minor player. The major players are the big bank ceos and their global counterparts. Banks run the world, don't doubt it for a second.
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Post by SilverOrange » Thu Jun 04, 2009 10:05 pm

Here's a link to President Obamas speech in Cairo if anyone has interest in hearing it. http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/NewBeginning/

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Post by Elderberry » Thu Jun 04, 2009 10:29 pm

SilverOrange wrote:Here's a link to President Obamas speech in Cairo if anyone has interest in hearing it. http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/NewBeginning/
That was a GREAT speech. I can't recall an American President that talked such a hard line to Israel too!

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Post by cowboyangel » Thu Jun 04, 2009 10:58 pm

talk is one thing, action another. Mr Obama talks real fine, when it comes to walkin his talk...leaves much to be desired

from daily kos

...But how do we explain the shocking backsliding of Obama and his majority party: indefinite detention, torture lite continuing in Gitmo and Bagram, virtual immunity for war criminals, acceptable collateral drone carnage of civilians in Pakistan and Afghanistan, escalation of the disingenuous War on Terror, not to mention the subsidization of our piratical financial class. We are still locked in the shock of 9/11, the sole justification for this endless train of abuses, usurpations, and crimes. To forswear waterboarding would be regression to a perilous “September 10th mentality,â€
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Post by cowboyangel » Thu Jun 04, 2009 11:00 pm

and Benjamin keeps building illegal settlements. Tough talk mr Obama, with no balls to go up against the Israeli lobby will ring true for what it is...pure unadulterated cowardice. How long can you go on fooling the American public with rhetoric Mr Obama, when great deeds are what's required?
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Post by cowboyangel » Thu Jun 04, 2009 11:50 pm

and one more kick in the teeth to those who still believe in the promise of Obama:

America has lost her soul, and so has her president.

A despairing country elected a president who promised change. Americans arrived from every state to witness in bitter cold Obama’s swearing in ceremony. The mall was packed in a way that it has never been for any other president.

The people’s good will toward Obama and the expectations they had for him were sufficient for Obama to end the gratuitous wars and enact major reforms. But Obama has deserted the people for the interests. He is relying on his non-threatening demeanor and rhetoric to convince the people that change is underway.

The change that we are witnessing is in Obama, not in policies. Obama is morphing into Dick Cheney.

Obama has not been in office four months and already a book could be written about his broken promises.

Obama said he would close the torture prison, Guantanamo, and abolish the kangaroo courts known as military tribunals. But now he says he is going to reform the tribunals and continue the process, but without confessions obtained with torture. Getting behind Obama’s validation of the Bush/Cheney policy, House Democrats pulled the budget funding that was to be used for closing Guantanamo.

The policy of kidnapping people (usually on the basis of disinformation supplied by their enemies) and whisking them off to third world prisons to be interrogated is to be continued. Again, Obama has substituted a "reform" for his promise to abolish an illegal policy. Rendition, Obama says, has also been reformed and will no longer involve torture. How would anyone know? Is Obama going to assign a US government agent to watch over the treatment given to disappeared people by third world thugs? Given the proclivity of American police to brutalize US citizens, nothing can save the victims of rendition from torture.

Obama has defended the Bush/Cheney warrantless wiretapping program run by the National Security Agency and broadened the government’s legal argument that "sovereign immunity" protects government officials from prosecution and civil suits when they violate US law and constitutional protections of citizens. Obama’s Justice Department has taken up the defense of Donald Rumsfeld against a case brought by detainees whose rights Rumsfeld violated.

In a signing statement this month, Obama abandoned his promise to protect whistle-blowers who give information of executive branch illegality to Congress.

Obama is making even more expansive claims of executive power than Bush. As Bruce Fine puts it: "In principle, President Obama is maintaining that victims of constitutional wrongdoing by the U.S. government should be denied a remedy in order to prevent the American people and the world at large from learning of the lawlessness perpetrated in the name of national security and exacting political and legal accountability."

Obama, in other words, is committed to covering up the Bush regime’s crimes and to ensuring that his own regime can continue to operate in the same illegal and unconstitutional ways.

Obama is fighting the release of the latest batch of horrific torture photos that have come to light. Obama claims that release of the photos would anger insurgents and cause them to kill our troops. That, of course, is nonsense. Those resisting occupation of their land by US troops and NATO mercenaries are already dedicated to killing our troops, and they know that Americans torture whomever they capture. Obama is fighting the release of the photos, because he knows the barbaric image that the photos present of the US military will undermine the public’s support for the wars that enrich the military/security complex, appease the Israel Lobby, and repay the campaign contributions that elect the US government.

As for bringing the troops home from Iraq, this promise, too, has been reformed. To the consternation of his supporters, Obama is leaving 50,000 US soldiers in Iraq. The others are being sent to Afghanistan and to Pakistan, where on Obama’s watch war has broken out big time with already one million refugees from the indiscriminate bombing of civilians.

Meanwhile, war with Iran remains a possibility, and at Washington’s insistence, NATO is conducting war games on former Soviet territory, thus laying the groundwork for future enrichment of the US military/security complex. The steeply rising US unemployment rate will provide the needed troops for Obama’s expanding wars.

Obama can give a great speech without mangling the language. He can smile and make people believe his rhetoric. The world, or much of it, seems to be content with the soft words, which now drape Dick Cheney’s policies in pursuit of executive supremacy and US hegemony

Paul Craig Roberts [email him] was Assistant Secretary of the Treasury during President Reagan’s first term. He was Associate Editor of the Wall Street Journal. He has held numerous academic appointments, including the William E. Simon Chair, Center for Strategic and International Studies, Georgetown University, and Senior Research Fellow, Hoover Institution, Stanford University. He was awarded the Legion of Honor by French President Francois Mitterrand. He is the author of Supply-Side Revolution : An Insider's Account of Policymaking in Washington; Alienation and the Soviet Economy and Meltdown: Inside the Soviet Economy, and is the co-author with Lawrence M. Stratton of The Tyranny of Good Intentions : How Prosecutors and Bureaucrats Are Trampling the Constitution in the Name of Justice. Click here for Peter Brimelow’s Forbes Magazine interview with Roberts about the recent epidemic of prosecutorial misconduct.
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