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Post by DVD Burner » Mon May 18, 2009 11:29 am

Groups seek disbarment for Bush's top lawyers


http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/05/18/ ... topstories


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WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A coalition of progressive groups sought Monday to have 12 Bush administration lawyers disbarred for their roles in crafting the legal rationale for so-called enhanced interrogation techniques that many view as torture.

"It is time to hold these lawyers accountable for violating their legal oath," Kevin Zeese, an attorney for the coalition, said in a written statement.

"Just as the bar would suspend an attorney who advised a police officer to torture and brutalize a detained immigrant or criminal defendant, the bar must suspend these attorneys for advocating and causing the torture of war detainees. The disciplinary boards that hear these complaints must act or they will be seen as complicit in the use of torture."

Zeese called disbarment "an important step toward the ultimate accountability of criminal prosecution."

The group registered formal complaints against David Addington, John Ashcroft, Stephen Bradbury, Jay Bybee, Michael Chertoff, Douglas Feith, Alice Fisher, Timothy Flanigan, Alberto Gonzales, William Haynes II, Michael Mukasey and John Yoo.

Ashcroft, Gonzales and Mukasey served as attorney general in former President George W. Bush's administration. Chertoff served as homeland security secretary.

The complaints, filed with the bars in California, the District of Columbia, New York, Pennsylvania and Texas, also seek other forms of disciplinary action in addition to disbarment.

A preliminary internal report on the Justice Department investigation into the authors of the Bush administration's "torture memos" indicated that the federal government might also urge state bar associations to take sanctions against the memo writers, according to two government sources.

The draft, which has been sent to Attorney General Eric Holder for approval or revisions, reportedly does not call for criminal prosecutions.

Sources said investigators for the Justice Department's ethics unit, the Office of Professional Responsibility, have focused heavily on internal communications involving Bradbury, Bybee and Yoo.

The three former Office of Legal Counsel lawyers were top officials who provided legal guidance, including permissible interrogation procedures to the CIA and other executive branch agencies. Guidance written by Bybee and Yoo in the aftermath of the September 11 attacks allowed for harsh interrogation techniques that later were withdrawn.
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Post by DVD Burner » Mon May 18, 2009 11:33 am

So ummmm.....yall make sure yall dont get too distracted with that Pelosi Bologna.


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Post by EvilDustBooger » Mon May 18, 2009 11:51 am

DVD Burner wrote:So ummmm.....yall make sure yall dont get too distracted with that Pelosi Bologna.


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Post by dr.placebo » Tue May 19, 2009 9:03 am

There is a legal theory (and successful prosecution) based on the idea of Aggressive War.

Any guesses as to whether this will have any traction with regard to the Iraq War?

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Post by Elderberry » Tue May 19, 2009 9:44 am

dr.placebo wrote:There is a legal theory (and successful prosecution) based on the idea of Aggressive War.

Any guesses as to whether this will have any traction with regard to the Iraq War?
One can only hope.

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Post by can't sit still » Fri May 22, 2009 6:57 am

Now, Obama is considering "Preventive Detention"
for all of us potential terrorists. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/21/us/po ... .html?_r=1
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Post by Elderberry » Fri May 22, 2009 7:38 am

can't sit still wrote:Now, Obama is considering "Preventive Detention"
for all of us potential terrorists. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/21/us/po ... .html?_r=1
For "Prisoners of War"--which is the first time this terminology has actually been used to refer to terrorists. Interesting. I suggest you actually read or listen to his entire speech.

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Post by ygmir » Fri May 22, 2009 7:38 am

can't sit still wrote:Now, Obama is considering "Preventive Detention"
for all of us potential terrorists. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/21/us/po ... .html?_r=1
Imagine the world wide headlines if it were anyone but the messiah in this article........
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Post by can't sit still » Fri May 22, 2009 7:58 am

Take off your rose colored glasses.
He was almost ruminating over the need for statutory change to the laws so that we can deal with individuals who we can’t charge and detain,â€
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Post by can't sit still » Sat May 30, 2009 4:27 pm

Seems that saudis got carried away with justice;
"Crucifying the headless body in a public place is a way to set an example, according to the kingdom's strict interpretation of Islam. Normally those convicted of rape, murder and drug trafficking in Saudi Arabia are just beheaded."
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,523364,00.html
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Post by lurker » Tue Jun 02, 2009 8:39 am

Now, Obama is considering "Preventive Detention"
for all of us potential terrorists. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/21/us/po ... .html?_r=1
Ha! And wasn't there just a DHS memo about all the dangerous potential terrorists we've got wandering through our country? Volunteer firemen--and military veterans--and what about all them 'teabaggers'?

It's gettin so a decent person can't be heard screamin allahu akbar over all these pro-lifers, NRA members and Prop 8 supporters.

Our President understands that decent Americans need to be protected from divergent thoughts and counterrevolutionary ideals

And remember kids, it's bad when Rethuglicans do it, but when Democrats do it, it's the Law.

Hail Obama :D
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Post by Simon of the Playa » Tue Jun 02, 2009 8:40 am

i see you're back from licking your self-inflicted wounds, huh...
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Post by lurker » Tue Jun 02, 2009 9:17 am

Just the lobotomy scar!

We voters who voted wrong got OURS first. I understand they've got something special in mind for the sheeple.

My reeducationist said something about soy--Hey, maybe it's that genetically modified soy stuff that you hate Dan about. Is that stuff green? Because they said it would be green....It's the Ayers Plan!


And seriously, did you need to edit that one line? Spell 'wounds' wrong?

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Post by DVD Burner » Tue Jun 02, 2009 10:42 am

Simon of the Playa wrote:i see you're back from licking your self-inflicted wounds, huh...

lurker wrote:Just the lobotomy scar!

We voters who voted wrong got OURS first. I understand they've got something special in mind for the sheeple.

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Post by Simon of the Playa » Tue Jun 02, 2009 11:18 am

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Post by lurker » Tue Jun 02, 2009 1:16 pm

perhaps you'd be interested in my new line of aluminum foil lined Baseball Caps.
Nah, see, I live in this country called the United States of America and every four to eight years a new idiot gets to be in charge. I don't REALLY think that's gonna change--unlike the people who've been screaming for the last eight years that Bush was going to suspend elections.

But you guys do project--if you start accusing your opponents of something, chances are you're doing some form of that thing yourselves.

I mean, you called us all 'bushbots' and said we were blind followers--and now, even the most libertine of you are lining up to chant 'obamobamaobama' and happily watch as your saviour sells you down the river. Projection.

Bleat away, DVD, bleat away....
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Post by dr.placebo » Tue Jun 02, 2009 3:09 pm

lurker wrote:I mean, you called us all 'bushbots' and said we were blind followers--and now, even the most libertine of you are lining up to chant 'obamobamaobama' and happily watch as your saviour sells you down the river. Projection.
Actually, I'm disappointed in a number of Obama's actions. The dishonesty rampant in the financial industry is getting little more than a slap on the wrist. The "enemy combatants" issue is far from resolved. The Bush/Cheney malfeasance is (largely) getting a pass. And the transparency that was promised is far from delivered.

Even so, looking back on the previous administration, I see a greater honesty in the current one. On the whole, Obama's cabinet is far stronger than the last one. One of my own hot buttons (respect for science) is being addressed. Obama is showing some backbone on the Israeli settlement issue. And I don't have to be embarrassed by the leader of my country.

It's not faith based. While my wildest dreams are not realized, I still support the man, imperfections and all.

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Post by Simon of the Playa » Tue Jun 02, 2009 6:15 pm

standing and applauding a sound, solid opinion...

Thank You Dr. Placebo for that Surgical, Precise, and imho, very truthful Paragraph.
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Post by ygmir » Tue Jun 02, 2009 8:29 pm

dang, where did I put my rose colored glasses?.........I wanna share that view, Doc.............
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Post by Elderberry » Wed Jun 03, 2009 1:06 am

Simon of the Playa wrote:standing and applauding a sound, solid opinion...

Thank You Dr. Placebo for that Surgical, Precise, and imho, very truthful Paragraph.
I'll second that. I'm really just getting so tired with all the nay sayers, it's not even worth commenting any more.

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Post by dr.placebo » Wed Jun 03, 2009 1:21 am

ygmir wrote:dang, where did I put my rose colored glasses?.........I wanna share that view, Doc.............
My view is that the people of the world are going to have to experience a number of severe crises before we wake up, and that there is no assurance that we will live long enough to wake up. Hardly an unalloyed optimistic view. But having an adult in the White House should give us marginally better chances than having a petulant, spoiled and dangerously willful brat.

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Post by Simon of the Playa » Wed Jun 03, 2009 4:30 am

stick it up their republican asses Doc....a Nice TRUTH enema...
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Post by lurker » Wed Jun 03, 2009 6:39 am

No, guys, I asked DVD to bleat, not ALL of you.

Sigh.

And I agree wholeheartedly, a Cabinet full of Tax cheats is much better than one that's not. Tax cheats need jobs too. Hey! Maybe that's one of those jobs that got saved!

Personally, I think(inshobama) that we need more czars.
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Post by ygmir » Wed Jun 03, 2009 6:48 am

my cynical self just can't/won't trust any of them...........

Call me "jaded"......but, we can argue the "degree", but, I think they're all crooks.
By "all", I mean high level politicians.....I'm sure, on a local level, there are some good eggs.......
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Post by Simon of the Playa » Wed Jun 03, 2009 7:00 am

rummy, scooter, freddie malek, cheney, poppy, secord, north, singlaub, hasenfus, gomez, rodriquez, john hull, Ted Shackley, Don Gregg, ooooh, i almost forgot Gonzalez and John Yu.


quite a list of criminals, huh.....


i'll take the tax cheats anyday over cold-blooded killers.


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Post by ygmir » Wed Jun 03, 2009 7:20 am

Simon of the Playa wrote:rummy, scooter, freddie malek, cheney, poppy, secord, north, singlaub, hasenfus, gomez, rodriquez, john hull, Ted Shackley, Don Gregg, ooooh, i almost forgot Gonzalez and John Yu.


quite a list of criminals, huh.....


i'll take the tax cheats anyday over cold-blooded killers.


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