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Hitler Half Jew Thread

Post by Apollonaris Zeus » Tue Aug 18, 2009 11:14 pm

Yep, part Jew!

Dumb fucking Germans

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Post by lemur » Wed Aug 19, 2009 6:29 am

i heard hitler was really born an ethnic protestant but later practiced atheism...

he was also a jew???!
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Post by wedeliver » Wed Aug 19, 2009 6:47 am

psychohistory Hitler was NOT JEWISH! this is extremly offensive to people that arn't really fucking stupid and I think this threads only purpose is to pass on lies and foster HATE.

I would have no objection to this thread being deleted for that reason.


To our Israeli friends who come to Black Rock City and to others that are offended by this thread be aware that most of us know that the subject of this thread is a lie and not at all true. The Troll who posted it, without any cite's is only trying to get someone upset.

I am looking forward to seeing my jewish friends again this year. drive safe.
To add to the answers below - I understand that Hitler made a point of destroying the building that would have held his father's birth certificate so the proof one way of the other was destroyed. (History Channel Documentary)
(Observations:

a. In the case of any illegitimate child whose mother refuses to name the father one would expect the entry in the Register of Births to be unrevealing and simply state 'Father: unknown'. In other words, it would have been uninformative in this respect.

b. It is true that the building(s) and the churchyard were destroyed in 1938 on Hitler's orders. He was presumably was nervous about some possible 'dark secret'. However, it's anyone's guess what it was. There has, for example, been speculation about a history of incest or insanity in his family. Perhaps, for that matter, the entry had been tampered with, for example, when his father changed his name in 1876 from from Schicklgruber to Hitler. The 'standard' story about a Jew named Frankenberger in Graz as the paternal grandfather has been discredited. However, it has allowed devotees of psychohistory a field day.

c. Presumably the records were open to public inspection between the time when Hitler first hit the headlines and the Anschluss in 1938. In other words, oponents had already had 14-15 years to look for spicy information. - Joncey).


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No. The Hitler family was Roman Catholic.

Hitler's grandfather was not Jewish. The standard version of the story focuses on Hitler's paternal grandfather. Hitler's father's mother is said to have worked as a maid for a Jew and there were rumours that Hitler's father was actually the employer's biological child. No evidence for this has ever been found.

Although there is no evidence that Hitler had a Jewish grandfather, supposedly his grandmother refused to reveal the identity of her child's father to her death. There was a suspicion that it was her Jewish employer, but there is no evidence of this, and Hitler certainly never spoke of it.

Hitler certainly hated Jews, as one can read in his book, 'Mein Kampf'. Most Austrian children were raised with a fear, mistrust and hatred of Jews, going back to medieval times, supported by the Catholic Church, that Hitler was born into. Hitler was filled with hatred towards many groups and people, and was a very angry man, as is obvious if you listen to his speeches.


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Often suggested, sometimes claimed, but no established historian buys into what is probably just an urban legend.

There have been rumours that Hitler was one-quarter Jewish and that his paternal grandmother, Maria Schicklgruber, had become pregnant while working as a servant in a the household of a Graz Jew called Franberger. During the 1920s, the implications of these rumours along with his known family history were politically explosive, especially for the proponent of a racist ideology. Opponents tried to prove that Hitler, the leader of the anti-Semitic Nazi Party, had Jewish or Czech ancestors. Although these rumours were never confirmed, for Hitler they were reason enough to conceal his origins.


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Ian Kershaw, "Hitler ...", Vol. 1, pp. 7-9 dismisses the story as nonsense. At the time when Hitler's grandmother worked as a servant in Graz for a family supposedly called Frankenberger (the 1830s) Jews were completely banned from living in Graz (and the whole province of Steiermark - Styria).

What's more, according to Kershaw, study of directories of Graz and the like for the 1830s and 1840s doesn't reveal any family called Frankenberger in Graz at all.

In other words, it's an urban legend.


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Post by joel the ornery » Wed Aug 19, 2009 8:32 am

wedeliver wrote:The Troll who posted it, without any cite's is only trying to get someone upset.
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Post by Apollonaris Zeus » Wed Aug 19, 2009 8:43 am

lemur wrote:i heard hitler was really born an ethnic protestant but later practiced atheism...

he was also a jew???!
He was a jew even the SS and a ranking officer had said so at Nuremberg Trials.

That is the reason why Hitler had order his village of his youth bombed

I will now make the case

Wiki entry: Ancestry

Hitler's father, Alois Hitler, was an illegitimate child of a female domestic servant of a Jewish household. His father was the head of the household!

Not all jews were banned from Austria as some people (including wedeliver) have suggested.

That is a lie!

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PS- I've found that it pisses off Nazis most jews have actually welcomed the fall from grace of their fuhrer who was also an incestuous pervert! You might say that ran in his family.

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Post by littleflower » Wed Aug 19, 2009 8:43 am

WTF, zuesy? we all know who you're targeting ... but why? you're just making an ass of yourself ....

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Post by Apollonaris Zeus » Wed Aug 19, 2009 8:55 am

littleflower wrote:WTF, zuesy? we all know who you're targeting ... but why? you're just making an ass of yourself ....
Yes, you're right he was one quarter jewish

Look here is hitler's grandmother when she worked as a servant for a jew:

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Oh how glad that Roseanne Barr is not on tv.

In 1930, Hilter entrusted Frank to research his ancestry in order to dispell rumors that Hitler had Jewish blood. The discription of his progress, below, is from the book, The Trial of the Germans, by Eugene Davidson, University of Missouri Press, 1966:

"Frank undertook this delicate task, and he declared in the autobiography written in his cell at Nuremberg that what he discovered made it appear possible, if not likely, that Hitler's father had been half Jewish. The main facts are clear enough. Hitler's grandmother, a Fraulein Maria Anna Schicklgruber, worked as a cook for a well-to-do Jewish family named Frankenberger. The Frankenbergers had a son who was nineteen years old at the time Hitler's forty-two-year-old grandmother bore a child out of wedlock, and the Jewish family paid for the support of the child up to the time it was fourteen years old. Frank wrote that the money was given to avoid a public scandal. Apparently, although Frank does not say so, Fraeulein Schicklgruber had threatened to bring a suit against the Frankenbergers. Frank wrote that many letters were subsequently exchanged between them and Hitler's grandmother, which seemed to him to be evidence of a cordial relationship. Nevertheless, both he and Hitler were convinced that the child was actually the offspring of a millworker, Johann Georg Hiedler, a second cousin of Fraeulein Schicklgruber, who five years after the birth of the child married her and legitimized her son. But Frank, writing in Nuremberg no longer for the benefit of the Fuehrer, was also of the opinion that it was not out of the question that Hitler's father, who later changed his name from Hiedler to Hitler, was half Jewish."1

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Post by AntiM » Wed Aug 19, 2009 8:59 am

I'm annoyed.

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Post by Apollonaris Zeus » Wed Aug 19, 2009 9:42 am

And here is some fodder for thought.

Hitler was hell bend on the pure Aryan race, you know Blue eye and blond hair bullshit unspoiled by the mud race of the jews. yes you know all about that right.

So why did he institute a little known law about the Half-Blood jews? When others in the Nazi movement wanted to close this hole of impurity, Hitler would grand full Aryan status to his most trusted half blood supporters.

But Why?

Surely he would lose support of the full bloods and be exterminated along with millions.

Because he feared that his little secret would be known that's why!

It is well known that his sister had multiple nightmares that the nazis were coming to take her to the death camps.

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Post by Boijoy » Wed Aug 19, 2009 10:43 am

WHY ?!?!? do we have to be bringing up Hitler and the Jews THIS close to the Burn?? WHY?!?!?
You know.. a couple threads over they are DISRESPECTING the PBR.
buncha' shit stirrers...

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Post by AntiM » Wed Aug 19, 2009 10:50 am

Yeah, well, some folks aren't even going to the burn.

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Post by Boijoy » Wed Aug 19, 2009 10:57 am

figures.
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Post by chiefdanfox » Wed Aug 19, 2009 11:07 am

but where's the half hitler half jew half thread?

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Post by Deb Prothero » Wed Aug 19, 2009 12:37 pm

Zeus, you are a better man than this illustrates.

I'm too new here to know who you target or why.

This thread is beneath you and your namesake. Reach for the stars to raise yourself up rather than walk on the back of another.

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as predicted.

Post by Simon of the Playa » Wed Aug 19, 2009 12:43 pm

as i always say, give them enough rope....


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Post by Apollonaris Zeus » Wed Aug 19, 2009 1:06 pm

This is for Simon

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Blackhole of the playa!

The Half-Jew Nazi of the playa
chiefdanfox wrote:but where's the half hitler half jew half thread?
Don't know and I couldn't find it!

Sorry to those that hold me in higher esteem then simon, but where the fuck were you when he pulls this shit?

Eh!

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Post by AntiM » Wed Aug 19, 2009 1:30 pm

Just because you can't see me moderating, doesn't mean I'm not.

I thought you two lovebirds had each other (and socks) on plonk. I'm not going to babysit you two. I'm just hoping you will both grow the fuck up and leave each other alone. If you can't, well, I'll be annoyed, but I won't tinker with threads and posts. Simon knows he annoys me. You're catching on. I am not going to get between the two of you. I may ask for civility, but it is up to you and Simon to decide the last word isn't worth the hassle. I am not going to play games with last posts. Sure, I'll lock threads by request of the OP, but damn rare thing for me to unlock them, and certainly not because you want the last word. None of the mods will do that.

Keep at each other, everyone else will either be amused or walk away.

It is on you AND Simon.

You both have the ability to stop posting, stop reading, stop engaging. Do it.

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Post by Simon of the Playa » Wed Aug 19, 2009 2:53 pm

as you wish.



if anti-m ain't happy, then noone is happy.....


my apologies to the e-playa for anything that i may have said which may have offended you.

i was merely living the e-playa on my feet instead of reading on my knees.

i will refrain from pointing out what i opine to be wrong in others post from now on.


let the snark end here.

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and i really am too busy for this bullshit.
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Post by AntiM » Wed Aug 19, 2009 3:09 pm

I am not offended, I'm annoyed. Don't apologize, please. Feel free to disagree, just no name calling. All I am asking of anyone on the board.

I'm too busy too ... not enough art and way behind on the sewing. And yet here I am.

I wouldn't try if I didn't care. Shit, now I need a drink to justify my "I love you, man" feelings. Yes, AIIZ, even you.

I'll be in the bar.

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Post by Absolut Jeenyus » Thu Aug 20, 2009 3:34 am

Oh silly burners...
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Post by EvilDustBooger » Thu Aug 20, 2009 7:00 am

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Post by Ugly Dougly » Thu Aug 20, 2009 10:17 am

EvilDustBooger wrote:Image
I AM TRULY OFFENDED!!

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Post by Apollonaris Zeus » Thu Aug 20, 2009 2:00 pm

AntiM wrote:Just because you can't see me moderating, doesn't mean I'm not.

I thought you two lovebirds had each other (and socks) on plonk. I'm not going to babysit you two. I'm just hoping you will both grow the fuck up and leave each other alone. If you can't, well, I'll be annoyed, but I won't tinker with threads and posts. Simon knows he annoys me. You're catching on. I am not going to get between the two of you. I may ask for civility, but it is up to you and Simon to decide the last word isn't worth the hassle. I am not going to play games with last posts. Sure, I'll lock threads by request of the OP, but damn rare thing for me to unlock them, and certainly not because you want the last word. None of the mods will do that.

Keep at each other, everyone else will either be amused or walk away.

It is on you AND Simon.

You both have the ability to stop posting, stop reading, stop engaging. Do it.
Yes, I had him on plonk and he appoligized said he loved me so I took him off. he's pretty funny most of the time.

I will now apologize to Simon and those I may have offended here.

Simon I'm sorry for being a dick at times and for letting my anger to get the best of me.

Nothing but Love for you, AntiM and rest of you!

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Post by wedeliver » Thu Aug 20, 2009 2:13 pm

OMG, what are we going to do for entertainment? for christs sake. (oh wait he was all jewish).. hey what did joseph do while god was in there making baby jesus with mary?? Can ya see joe with the guys sayin', "hey I'm not pimpin' her guys, come on it's GOD". "God said all I have to do is raise the child like my own and I will..are you ready?, I will GET INTO HEAVEN. God promised"

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Post by Snowah Zark » Thu Aug 20, 2009 2:30 pm

pressure from above.
pressure from below.



i'll think about it.....






























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Post by Boijoy » Thu Aug 20, 2009 4:55 pm

I'm lost.. mostly because I don't care.. but, Is Simon Jewish?
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Post by ZeroandOne » Thu Aug 20, 2009 5:37 pm

no, he is not.


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Post by DVD Burner » Fri Aug 21, 2009 11:20 am

Not sure I can find this thread insulting. Disturbing? Possibly for several reasons. One of which would be how people could get bent out of shape over the possibility of Hitler being Jewish.

Neither here nor there tho.

I find there to be a difference between insulting and disturbing.
This thread I find disturbing.

What I find insulting are people that carry a picture like this:

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and think it's not insulting.
Tho it too is disturbing the people that think this way.
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