Cluster Bombs

rinny · Post by **rinny** » Sun Aug 30, 2009 12:49 pm

Cluster bombs are indiscriminate weapons that result in civilian casualties years after conflict has ended. Many of these bombs do not detonate after landing, and often attract children who think they're toys. Currently, in Iraq, there have been at least 200 civilian casualties from the use of cluster bombs. Most of the world has signed a ban on these weapons, which are manufactured in the US--which is exactly why our country hasn't agreed to ban them.

The Cluster Project is an online national art project designed to raise awareness about the controversy of cluster bombs. One section of the project, "What the People Know," relies on interested people around the country to take to the streets and conduct casual interviews with pedestrians. For more information, please visit our website!

Please send an email if you're interested in this project. Thank you!

goathead · Post by **goathead** » Sun Aug 30, 2009 12:51 pm

Please come out to the playa and conduct them yourself...

Otherwise fuck off.

rinny · Post by **rinny** » Sun Aug 30, 2009 12:53 pm

We need the help of many people because we want to find out what people all over the country know. We are already planning to do these in our area, but it's impossible to do it alone on the scale that we're aiming for.

goathead · Post by **goathead** » Sun Aug 30, 2009 12:56 pm

What part of come on out and conduct your interviews didn't you understand?

BUY, a ticket. Make sure you have enought to take care of yourself, and come on OUT...

rinny · Post by **rinny** » Sun Aug 30, 2009 12:58 pm

No, that's not what we're asking for. People who go to Burning Man live all over the country. We're looking for people to conduct simple interviews in their hometowns, then submit them to us to be compiled into a finished project. Everyone who submits will receive credit for doing it.

If you're not interested, then you don't have to participate.

goathead · Post by **goathead** » Sun Aug 30, 2009 1:01 pm

Then come out to the playa and recuit....

Receives credit?

goathead · Post by **goathead** » Sun Aug 30, 2009 1:19 pm

What about car bombs?
Or suicide bomb vests?

They have killed alot of children also.
Along with everyone else standing in the wrong place.

goathead · Post by **goathead** » Sun Aug 30, 2009 1:43 pm

Does the fact they are not made in the USA make them less

ART ?

goathead · Post by **goathead** » Sun Aug 30, 2009 1:46 pm

Are you even a Burner?

goathead · Post by **goathead** » Sun Aug 30, 2009 1:53 pm

Would you prefer dead Americans?

Its and evil choice.

But then war is evil.

goathead · Post by **goathead** » Sun Aug 30, 2009 1:55 pm

Or do you just want to interview those who see things the way you do?

I see you lurking why so quiet now?

rinny · Post by **rinny** » Sun Aug 30, 2009 1:58 pm

I guess there's not a whole lot to do in your mom's basement, huh? :)

Some of us have lives, you see, and aren't constantly at our computers.

Besides, to quote a great senator, replying to you again would be like having an argument with a dining room table. I have no interest in doing it. Bye!

goathead · Post by **goathead** » Sun Aug 30, 2009 2:01 pm

And some of have jobs and are stuck here.

Yes I am a little snarky today, I would much rather be out in the dust.

So are you even a burner?

Fuck Your Day.

goathead · Post by **goathead** » Sun Aug 30, 2009 2:08 pm

So how are you even going to do interviews when you can't even speak here?

What happens when someone disagrees with you, you just walk away?

goathead · Post by **goathead** » Sun Aug 30, 2009 3:22 pm

Must have been such a dissapointment.

Come in expecting happy hippies.

and winding up with a cranky goat....

stargeezer · Post by **stargeezer** » Sun Aug 30, 2009 4:44 pm

The world is full of people that believe that addressing their pet peeve is far more important than addressing any other issue. Yes, cluster bombs are a problem, but so are IEDs, over population, climate change, obesity, STDs, cancer, famine, ..............

It is not a good idea to jump on the board as a new member and expect everybody to follow your lead, especially when those that are currently reading the board are more irritated about their current location rather than being out enjoying the dust. If you really want to save a portion of the world from these nasty cluster bombs, why don't you throw yourself on one and shield those you most want to protect.

goathead · Post by **goathead** » Sun Aug 30, 2009 4:48 pm

or a cranky geezer....

I feel in good company.

stargeezer · Post by **stargeezer** » Sun Aug 30, 2009 5:00 pm

I don't know if I am cranky, or just have a different point of view!!

I just get tired of all the organizations that want to save the world by doing the same thing with no benefit. I see ads that are identical to those I saw as a kid, long time ago, and they still say the same thing and the same problem still exists. At some point, I would think they would realize their action plan is not all that effective.

goathead · Post by **goathead** » Sun Aug 30, 2009 5:22 pm

I am not really either, just trying to keep in practice.

If it had been a "member" from here, would have made a differance.
This coming in and the very first post asking for help just doesn't cut it.

Never did find out if they where even a burner...

stargeezer · Post by **stargeezer** » Sun Aug 30, 2009 5:28 pm

goathead wrote: Never did find out if they where even a burner...

Actually, I think you did,

and they are not!!

goathead · Post by **goathead** » Sun Aug 30, 2009 5:30 pm

I did keep trying to find any sign of life though....

stargeezer · Post by **stargeezer** » Sun Aug 30, 2009 5:42 pm

goathead wrote:I did keep trying to find any sign of life though....

I suspect the only sign they saw was the one that showed how much support they had in this forum. I am sure many waved good-bye, I am just not sure how many fingers they were showing at the time!!

goathead · Post by **goathead** » Sun Aug 30, 2009 5:49 pm

I have always been interested in Public Service.

Just gives me a warm fuzzy feeling.

stargeezer · Post by **stargeezer** » Sun Aug 30, 2009 6:03 pm

In some areas of the world, I can see where cluster bombs would actually be considered a public service, and depending on where you were at the time, they could make you warm and fuzzy.

goathead · Post by **goathead** » Sun Aug 30, 2009 6:10 pm

Depending on which side you where on...

H.G.Crosby wrote:

must not forget to give credit to the kernel and HG...

stargeezer · Post by **stargeezer** » Sun Aug 30, 2009 6:14 pm

That is not the location I was thinking of, but I guess we are on the same page anyway!!!!

goathead · Post by **goathead** » Sun Aug 30, 2009 6:16 pm

Oh I know, but why get serious now...

1 hour 45 minutes left.

stargeezer · Post by **stargeezer** » Sun Aug 30, 2009 6:23 pm

I hope the time goes quick!

I guess I do have to thank Rinny for starting this thread, I have really enjoyed the discussion.

I am off to chores.

goathead · Post by **goathead** » Sun Aug 30, 2009 7:37 pm

It has been a most enjoyable thread.

To bad Rinny didn't try to join a little bit more also.

Or didn't have a translator.

oneeyeddick · Post by **oneeyeddick** » Thu Sep 10, 2009 5:20 pm

Clusterbombs work great for "relocating" feathers to the neighbors camp so that they can deal with them.