nature, man, and art

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nature, man, and art

Post by Guest » Tue Mar 09, 2004 7:48 pm

There are hidden contradictions in the minds of people who "love Nature" while deploring the "artificialities" with which "Man has spoiled 'Nature.'" The obvious contradiction lies in their choice of words, which imply that Man and his artifacts are not part of "Nature" -- but beavers and their dams are... - robert heinlein


yet, there are those men and women who see nature as an inspiration and as a result of that inspiration seem to not only distill nature down to its very essence, but reconfigure it and refine it further and put that essence back into the world in a new way that actually increases the connection between those men who see the art and the nature that inspired it.

in these cases, where nature is the inspiration for the art, and the source, do not the men who distill it and refine it and interpret it, make the nature more accessible to those who did not have it within themselves to understand the nature of nature without an interpreter?

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The world has many seas, Mediterranean, Atlantic, but
here is the shore of the one ocean.
And here the heavy future hangs like a cloud; the
enormous scene; the enormous games preparing
Weigh on the water and strain the rock; the stage is
here, the play is conceived; the players are
not found.


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Post by DVD Burner » Tue Mar 09, 2004 8:59 pm

I'm not the best photographer in the world and I know these are'nt as good as what you post genghis, just wanted to show that i agree with you and Black Rock Ric when it comes to humans horses and nature.

just shareing some of the beauty i experienced when i was staying in Santa rosa.

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Post by Wind_Borne » Wed Mar 10, 2004 2:46 am

When I was young, a man named Christo came to my home of Sonoma with a wierd idea to erect a fabric fence from Sonoma Mountain some 24 miles to the ocean. At the time Sonoma County was home to dairies, sheep ranches, wineries, and a few communes. Some people proclaimed it as great art, others worried about the environmental impact, and many just thought it odd. But in the end the local sense of humor prevailed and the fence was built.

The fence stood for two weeks. Before it was built I did not expect to be impressed. Seeing it, though, I was thrilled -- as the fence serpentined over hills and through hollows it celebrated the very essence of the terrain. After 28 years I still wish that I could see it once again billow in the breeze as it wound its way to the ocean.

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Post by ZenRascal » Thu Mar 11, 2004 3:01 am

genghis, I found that Heinlein quote fascinating (along with the rest of your post). When I was younger (college age) and more inclined to argue & debate, I would sometimes advocate a similar position, claiming that any urban environment (e.g. NYC) is a "natural" environment, based on the same logic Heinlein uses. It was fun and made for some spirited conversation.

Wind_Borne, thanks for posting about that fence. I vaguely recall hearing about that way back when.

Nature evolves humans and humans perceive and create what they term "art" which covers such a vast array of inspiration. I've always enjoyed techie things that are "out of place" by conventional standards. My personal love is unique lighting, especially neon. The fabric fence is reminding me of some outdoor neon-in-nature I've encountered, but I can't find a good picture now. Gotta do more googling!

Let me also mention Nam Jun Paik whose work has excited me over the years. I once saw his Video Garden.

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Post by robotland » Thu Mar 11, 2004 8:07 am

If I end up driving out this year, I'm considering a slight detour outside of SLC to see "Spiral Jetty".
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Post by Badger » Thu Mar 11, 2004 8:12 am

You should.

Smithson's master work is fully visible for the first time in almost 30 years.
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Post by robotland » Thu Mar 11, 2004 9:32 am

I know that it's not far outside of Salt Lake, but that could mean "up the side of a mountain, turn right, and cross that field of boulders"....Have you been there? Can a mere mortal, driving an Element, get there?
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Post by DVD Burner » Tue Mar 16, 2004 9:43 pm

Just another sureal pic I wanted to share

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Heinlein

Post by Guest » Wed Mar 17, 2004 7:57 am

Heinlein had a number of colorful quotes..
"A Human Being ...

should be able to change a diaper,
plan an invasion,
butcher a hog,
conn a ship,
design a building,
write a sonnet,
balance accounts,
build a wall,
set a bone,
comfort the dying,
take orders,
give orders,
cooperate,
act alone,
solve equations,
analyze a new problem,
pitch manure,
program a computer,
cook a tasty meal,
fight efficiently
and die gallantly.

Specialization is for insects."

quote from Robert Heinlein

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