Work in Progress

Foxfur · Post by **Foxfur** » Thu Jun 02, 2011 10:17 am

Wow! Lotsa input!

The fittings on the all black iron pipe poUfer (hows that?)are schedule 40.
That one is a proof of concept model, not the final release.
Sch 40 fittings are rated @ around 125PSI. there is a safety factor of 2 plus an additional 100PSI surge pressure. Brings us to 350PSI. The maximum pressure I've seen on my setups is ~90PSI. the average pressure is down at 40-50PSI.
In the mat'l science & engineering dept I worked in, sch 40 was used up to 210 PSI on argon, helium, nitrogen, and TIG mixes.

Ok. All that said, My standard in the current application is what the FST says it is. If they say 80, 80 it is.

The ice machine crap is not for permanent use. If used for more than a test firing it's going to be replaced with 1/4" stainless thickwalled tubing using swagelock compression fittings as on Grizelda, the first poUfer.

I have some marvelous industrial regulators UL listed and rated for H2, MAPP, Propane, CO, and a whole bunch of other gasses. Can't remember the brand but I'll put something up later. Pulled as prime from a bulk CO2 distribution manifold.

I'm meeting up w/ EspressoDude in a bit. Seeing as he's built, and operated on the playa, the FOGx family of fire spewing monsters, he is a subject matter expert and will be strip mined for information as such.

Thanks for the input. Always welcome and appreciated.

Ff

OED: Would you consider licensing the use of the name Poofer?
I have a change cup on my counter that should fully cover the fees.
It's difficult to stop using the term. I'll have my legal team contact yours...

Trishntek: Your mind is in the gutter. That makes us neighbors, yay!

Snow · Post by **Snow** » Thu Jun 02, 2011 10:18 am

It looks like yellow tape to, me. Perhaps it depends on the monitor settings or dick has some kind of white stuff clouding his one eye.

Snow · Post by **Snow** » Thu Jun 02, 2011 10:29 am

yes I'm an engineer and would spec sch 40 for these pressure ranges in the default world. However the guidelines call for 80. Remember that these are also subjected to a rough and tumble lifestyle and some other forces such as long overhangs and jetting.

Just like with construction it doesn't matter what common sense, practice or even the regs say, its what passes the inspectors eye that really matters.

Snow · Post by **Snow** » Thu Jun 02, 2011 10:32 am

Also we always run the pilot flame to a seperate gas source. when you get heavy on the flames and things get cold the pressures start to drop you sometimes won't have enough to keep that flame up.

Well with Espresso dude coming over to show you the ropes I'll shut up now, he knows his stuff.

It's looking good though

ygmir · Post by **ygmir** » Thu Jun 02, 2011 11:15 am

Snow wrote:I for got to say Great work everyone!

ygmir, awesome work, but WHAT are you trying to keep out with that door. I'm afraid.

Firefox, you're on the right track, but needs a few adjustments, feel free to PM me and we'll talk about it. But most importantly if you plan on using it on the Playa it NEEDS to be sch 80 or turn down the pressure via a regulator (who wants to do that?). And either way you MUST use yellow gas rated tape, not the white kind, good catch OED.

Between espresso dude, OED, and I ,surely you'll be getting some great hard learned tips. Although you might watch out if OED tells you "its just the tip"

Zombies, of course.......and hippies, EOW and all that.
I'd have to say, I'm sort of living a "childhood" (relatively speaking) fantasy of building my own castle, although, my castle (Hof) is only as big as I can build myself, thusly, small. But mighty!!

FIGJAM · Post by **FIGJAM** » Thu Jun 02, 2011 11:18 am

ygmir wrote:
Snow wrote:I for got to say Great work everyone!

ygmir, awesome work, but WHAT are you trying to keep out with that door. I'm afraid.

Firefox, you're on the right track, but needs a few adjustments, feel free to PM me and we'll talk about it. But most importantly if you plan on using it on the Playa it NEEDS to be sch 80 or turn down the pressure via a regulator (who wants to do that?). And either way you MUST use yellow gas rated tape, not the white kind, good catch OED.

Between espresso dude, OED, and I ,surely you'll be getting some great hard learned tips. Although you might watch out if OED tells you "its just the tip"
Zombies, of course.......and hippies, EOW and all that.
I'd have to say, I'm sort of living a "childhood" (relatively speaking) fantasy of building my own castle, although, my castle (Hof) is only as big as I can build myself, thusly, small. But mighty!!

It's hard to start out with your own castle.

Even Evil Harry Dread only started with a Shed of Doom!

ygmir · Post by **ygmir** » Thu Jun 02, 2011 11:43 am

I guess I didn't put my shutters here:

Locking detail, one shutter sits in 3" channel saddle for lock.
all construction 1/4" or thicker, steel.

hinge pins: 3.5" dia. thick (1/2") walled drill steel

upper attachment assembly 6-3/4" through pins through 8" concrete walls.

hinge pins fit through, round bracket, final adjusted, and welded into place.

ground end of hinge mounts, drilled into walls and granite, then, 18" thick concrete poured to create monolithic bottom

Shutter panels, prior to installing granite

FIGJAM · Post by **FIGJAM** » Thu Jun 02, 2011 12:26 pm

Outstanding!!!

There are no words fitting the admeration I feel.

ygmir · Post by **ygmir** » Thu Jun 02, 2011 1:34 pm

thanks FJ!!!

I had to go out and get these pics, to finish (for now) the series:

outer (moveable, drill steel "pins" are stationary, these rotate on the outside) hinge pieces, with welding flanges in place, shutter flanges lap weld, with button welds in the field, and copper sheet between to stop torch/flame cutting
in the back, are the header attachment assemblies, and, shim stock, to not only align each side of the shutters (each window gets 4 shutters, to, bottom, left, right), but, to make a replaceable wear surface, in case alignment is lost due to wear or anything else.

closer detail

shutter frames with 1.5" granite installed

shutter with flange detail, to weld to hinge flanges, button and with copper

shutters on pallets, ready to take up and install.

MyDearFriend · Post by **MyDearFriend** » Thu Jun 02, 2011 1:57 pm

Well I am totally awe-struck, Ygmir.

oneeyeddick · Post by **oneeyeddick** » Thu Jun 02, 2011 6:55 pm

Foxfur wrote:
I'm meeting up w/ EspressoDude in a bit. Seeing as he's built, and operated on the playa, the FOGx family of fire spewing monsters, he is a subject matter expert and will be strip mined for information as such.

If he hands you a catchers mitt, and tells you to stand "over there"....do NOT try to catch the potatoe.

You have been warned.

Trishntek · Post by **Trishntek** » Thu Jun 02, 2011 7:20 pm

Yggy gives a whole new meaning to Studly Hardware,,,

Snow · Post by **Snow** » Thu Jun 02, 2011 8:06 pm

Awesome ygmir, now I remember us discussing your castle before. I need to get up there and check it out, perhaps give you a hand with some metal work.

ygmir · Post by **ygmir** » Thu Jun 02, 2011 8:47 pm

thanks Tnt!!

Yeah, Snow.......we did discuss some of that stuff, last year as I recall.
you are totally welcome to come check it out.....no need to work, but, I'm sure you know a lot I don't, so, input is always appreciated.
Goes for everyone, come on up!!!

The main metal work is getting near the end of fabrication.
then install.....after that, I'll be getting back on some wood work, and, lots of stone.....stone floor and 6 or so inch stone siding, outside the block wall, wood paneling and stone(I hope) inside.

neon tetra · Post by **neon tetra** » Fri Jun 03, 2011 12:07 am

My very 1st slideshow set to music. A good amount of BRC pics in there, plus other fests & some recent road trips. Complete w/ built-in cheesy pan/fade effect! I'd love to do a proper one sometime, but you gotta start somewhere..

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Foxfur · Post by **Foxfur** » Fri Jun 03, 2011 12:42 am

I found a suppressor for project HellAKitty.
It was in my storage unit and I have no idea how it got there.
Divine providence.

And I'm working on something special on the side...

Ff

EspressoDude · Post by **EspressoDude** » Fri Jun 03, 2011 6:51 am

ygmir...that 'castle' is starting to look more like a bunker... Some of that pipe looks like drill pipe....heavy wall..strong..large bore......

Love the 'stoned' shutters..keep out the riff raff

Ff that's some mighty fancy look Swagelok stuff....drool

Foxfur · Post by **Foxfur** » Fri Jun 03, 2011 7:48 am

Foxfur wrote: And I'm working on something special on the side...
Ff

That sounds like I'm doing work for someone else.
This is not the case.
Just wanted to clear that up.

ygmir · Post by **ygmir** » Fri Jun 03, 2011 7:53 am

EspressoDude wrote:ygmir...that 'castle' is starting to look more like a bunker... Some of that pipe looks like drill pipe....heavy wall..strong..large bore......

Love the 'stoned' shutters..keep out the riff raff

Ff that's some mighty fancy look Swagelok stuff....drool

yeah, bunker.......well.......hhhmmm.............

yup, it is horizontal drill steel, very hard and tough, seamless..........grin, I have the same idea......in fact, I think I can make it fit a soda can perfectly...............

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Fri Jun 03, 2011 9:21 am

FIGJAM wrote:Outstanding!!!

There are no words fitting the admeration I feel.

So you made up a new one!

(And now those nasty taunts about my grammerian tendencies will start up again.)

Foxfur · Post by **Foxfur** » Fri Jun 03, 2011 9:26 am

Yggy,
That is simply amazing. I'm at a loss for words.
Looks like it'd be a perfect cottage for a mother in law.

I wish I had an electric welder.
eDude has a MIG. I have a vertical mill and a lathe.
Fun and dangerous things will be built.

Here's a project I did a while ago.
It languished in disarray for some time after
literally being dropped on its head.
Finally got around to fixin' him up.

Talking kids toy. Annoying voice speaks numbers when feet are pressed.
Also speaks what color the foot is.
Not good enough...

I removed the original voice module and replaced it with the voice module from a Beavis n Butthead talking remote control.

Looks pretty happy after that lobotomy, yes no?
Now he says "Blwwahhulluaaa, I am Cornholio!"
and "Don't make me kick your ass!".

Learning has never been so much fun!
When doing a custom electronics design-build,
I'd often bring it along. I'd pull it out of a
bag, set it on the table, and give em a
more tangible form of a technical resume.
It always worked.

Ff

Snow · Post by **Snow** » Fri Jun 03, 2011 9:51 am

hmmmm I have a really nice MIG welder and wish I had mill and a lathe to go along with it.

Today I'm working on getting flaming arrows not to blow out upon release. Its tougher to get this down then it looks.

And also modifying a recently paralyzed friends UTV for easier use.

ygmir · Post by **ygmir** » Fri Jun 03, 2011 10:30 am

yeah, having metal working stuff is fun........

Ff:
I have a 300 amp, industrial rated (but old) Lincoln A/C welder, you can have. It needs one magnetic switch, either replaced or cleaned and fixed. Since getting my MIG, and already have a 250S portable, I just don't need it.
It's dang heavy, though. Probably weighs 300 or more lbs.
But, I swear it'll burn re-bar for rod.

EspressoDude · Post by **EspressoDude** » Fri Jun 03, 2011 11:19 am

Snow wrote:Today I'm working on getting flaming arrows not to blow out upon release. Its tougher to get this down then it looks.

using fire spinner kevlar wicking and fuels?

former combat archer?
old DAD luggage tags?

rumors..........................

Snow · Post by **Snow** » Fri Jun 03, 2011 12:06 pm

using fire spinner kevlar wicking and fuels? yes thats what I have on hand

former combat archer? I'm not but am working with one
old DAD luggage tags? what?

rumors........................say who?

Foxfur · Post by **Foxfur** » Fri Jun 03, 2011 2:35 pm

Snow wrote:hmmmm I have a really nice MIG welder and wish I had mill and a lathe to go along with it.

Today I'm working on getting flaming arrows not to blow out upon release. Its tougher to get this down then it looks.
--That's cool! I'd watch reruns of the Dukes of Hazzard to polish the technique.

And also modifying a recently paralyzed friends UTV for easier use.
--Now that's even cooler!

Yggy,
I'd need to put in a 50amp subpanel.
I hate to look a gift horse in the mouth, but hey, nice teeth!

Snow · Post by **Snow** » Fri Jun 03, 2011 3:09 pm

Foxfur, check out this video for our small handheld pooPer. The girl on the far right is holding it (not firing it on governor though).

(PS all the fire fans in that video, I made)

As to the arrow, this is the effect we are going for (times 24)

still looking for more archers too (see http://www.trojanhorse2011.com/ if your interested)

Foxfur · Post by **Foxfur** » Fri Jun 03, 2011 4:50 pm

Grizelda II

Replaced all tape with sexy yellow tape.
Added a fast kill ball valve below the pilot valve.
Up to five valves now. With tank connected, seven valves.
I'd read somewhere that the FST likes valves. And PBR.

Added a union for transport. (Teamsters!)
Swapped in a new gauge. 300 PSI is the new 400 PSI.
Grizelda II, now with 25% greater resolution!

Much happier now. Let's dance!

(Oh, the cute, it's killing me! Damn that's cute! Cute, cute, cute...)

Ff

Snow · Post by **Snow** » Fri Jun 03, 2011 11:54 pm

YAY got the fire arrow dialed in tonight!!!!!! Just needed a secret little tweak and its perfect.

You know, I bet Ted Nugent would want in on these shenanigans. Anyone know how to get a hold of the nuge?

oneeyeddick · Post by **oneeyeddick** » Sat Jun 04, 2011 4:32 am

Just go to his facebook page and tell him he has a small dick.