BRC or NYC? which will be the more potent 'happening'?

P-Mobius · Post by **P-Mobius** » Tue May 25, 2004 5:56 pm

so burningman at black rock city and the republican national counterconvention in the streets of new york city will be occurring at the same time this year---- it can be a very difficult choice which circus of chaos to vortex into---whats your opinion?

i plan on being in new york---i can only incubate on the fringe for so long before i must integrate and shape and cross pollenate with the societal whole...this will be a political event charged with burner energy and more

peace now

DVD Burner · Post by **DVD Burner** » Tue May 25, 2004 6:03 pm

Last week on Fox News they were describing the mass amount of people coming to the up coming GOP convention, the interviewer described it as a potential "event of the masses of Burningman proportions".

P-Mobius · Post by **P-Mobius** » Wed May 26, 2004 1:41 pm

i can only imagine---
i envision alot of really creative and provocative street theatre
among the polyglot mixture of everybody astir and their political agendas

ive heard that quite a few NY burners are staying home and organizing for the "counter-festivities"---even offering sleeping space for out of towners

etc etc

DVD Burner · Post by **DVD Burner** » Wed May 26, 2004 1:43 pm

I miss N.Y.

Not as much as the playa though.

Captain Goddammit · Post by **Captain Goddammit** » Wed May 26, 2004 5:37 pm

I lived in NY (Long Island)... ain't never goin back!! Not even if they moved Burning Man there!

KellY · Post by **KellY** » Wed May 26, 2004 6:14 pm

If I was on the East Coast I'd totally be a the GOP convention festivites. As it is, Nevada's a lot closer, so my sister will have to protest for me.

Apollonaris Zeus · Post by **Apollonaris Zeus** » Wed May 26, 2004 7:09 pm

Let's have BM at central park this year or would that be a too strong a political statement for some?

A II Z

BAS · Post by **BAS** » Wed May 26, 2004 7:35 pm

Darn! I'd really like to be at one or the other, but am too broke and don't have the time off available for either.

I wish the best for the folks at either (or both?) gatherings!

Captain Goddammit · Post by **Captain Goddammit** » Wed May 26, 2004 8:24 pm

Apollonaris Zeus wrote:Let's have BM at central park this year or would that be a too strong a political statement for some?

A II Z

Oh, man, have you ever BEEN to Central Park? I'd sooner put BM in Iraq.

cowboyangel · Post by **cowboyangel** » Wed May 26, 2004 8:39 pm

I'm up in the air on this one ....wherever I am that will be the right place

stuart · Post by **stuart** » Thu May 27, 2004 11:23 am

I lived in NY (Long Island)...

as a former manhattanite, I take exception to this statement.

DVD Burner · Post by **DVD Burner** » Thu May 27, 2004 11:30 am

stuart always gets it.

I like all worlds. I'm from Malvern, Jamaica, and west villiage. but been if S.F. for 15 yrs

DVD Burner · Post by **DVD Burner** » Thu May 27, 2004 11:43 am

But in answer to the question "BRC or NYC? which will be the more potent 'happening'?"

BRC of course.

dragonfly Jafe · Post by **dragonfly Jafe** » Thu May 27, 2004 1:16 pm

Depends on what you mean by "happening". BRC is unlikely to have N-B-C problems (well, at least N-B...come to think of it grteywater can get pretty B also...) OK - at least we won't get nuked! regards, Jafe

Rian Jackson · Post by **Rian Jackson** » Wed Jul 14, 2004 4:39 pm

shit. i just changed my mind again last night. i think i am going to RNC - again - now.

sigh. anyone else hooking up medic teams over there? there needs to be all sorts of AG networking going on...

cowboyangel · Post by **cowboyangel** » Wed Jul 14, 2004 9:43 pm

Hey ...why don't we burn a large effigy of the republican convention on the playa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I would love to do that and we could thereby unite our energies with our brothers and sisters at RNC

Simply Joel · Post by **Simply Joel** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 10:02 am

July 15, 2004
Conventioneering.com

H. L. Mencken is said to have guffawed and slapped his thigh in delight at times as he would write about a typical day at a presidential nominating convention. Those long-ago times are enviable for their unpredictability — eons removed from the scripted conventions that will soon be offered to the nation once more as lean cuisine for thought. All the more reason to hope, then, that this year's one potentially risky innovation — accepting dozens of free-form online bloggers as accredited convention journalists — may lace the proceedings with fresh insight and even some Menckenian impertinence.

People who think the mushrooming world of wannabe polemicists and their Web logs, or blogs, is merely a high-tech amusement should talk to Senator Trent Lott, the Mississippi Republican.

In Web lore, bloggers are credited with relentlessly drilling Senator Lott after he expressed segregation-tinged nostalgia for the Strom Thurmond presidential campaign, a story that the major news media initially missed. Mr. Lott was subsequently forced to quit as majority leader.

Beyond its power as a source of news and commentary, the Internet has proved itself to be the ultimate fund-raising tool. Bloggers can be crass and biased, but politicians no longer scoff at their rich online realm. Hence the red carpet at the conventions — at least for some of them.

The Democrats, needless to say, are already paying for their venturesome invitation. They received applications from 50 bloggers and later announced there was room for only 30. Conspiracy theories are already abounding on the blogs of the disinvited. Such is Web life. We do wonder whether a blogger's buccaneer self-image will suffer from having to wear a garish credential necklace just to watch conventioneers as they mainly say, "Nice to see you!" to each other. Will bloggers be tamed into centrism? Or, like Mencken, will they gleefully report that the convention's main speechmakers are "plainly on furlough from some home for extinct volcanoes"? Log on to find out.

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buckethead alien · Post by **buckethead alien** » Fri Jul 16, 2004 4:31 am

Since the city has not given the protests a place to be as far as I know, the angry masses will probably be herded up and down the avenues on the east side of Manhattan by the NYPD. Think long, snaking queues at an airport, for an analogy, but with buildings instead of retractable ribbons to confine it. A recipe for chaos as groups try to break away.

Rian Jackson · Post by **Rian Jackson** » Fri Jul 16, 2004 8:49 am

buckethead alien wrote:Since the city has not given the protests a place to be as far as I know, the angry masses will probably be herded up and down the avenues on the east side of Manhattan by the NYPD. Think long, snaking queues at an airport, for an analogy, but with buildings instead of retractable ribbons to confine it. A recipe for chaos as groups try to break away.

I'm trying to figure if it will be good or bad that the NYPD will NOT be on strike now. If the national guard wasn't all shipped overseas, i'd prefer them.... but they probably would have brought in the regular army once the cops wouldn't come and the NG couldn't. Not sure which is worse, NYPD or army. But at least they have a harder time calling it 'martial law' when it is the cops running the show.

The other thing is that NY blocks off protesters block by block with those metal fence thingies. So it might look more like boxes of people being penned in, sprayed down, and fired on.

It's a friggin' recipe for disaster.

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