Suicidal Tendencies

All things outside of Burning Man.
Post Reply
User avatar
Elliot
Posts: 7772
Joined: Sun Dec 18, 2005 8:41 pm
Burning Since: 2006

Re: Suicidal Tendencies

Post by Elliot » Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:21 am

ygmir wrote:I purposely left "old" out, Elltiot:
I enjoy women, of all ages. All beautiful, in some way.
For sure! I was referring to the men -- old farts like me. (I can say that, because I'm older than Ygmir.)
:D

User avatar
ygmir
Posts: 29580
Joined: Thu Sep 20, 2007 8:36 pm
Burning Since: 2017
Camp Name: qqqq
Location: nevada county

Re: Suicidal Tendencies

Post by ygmir » Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:45 am

Elliot wrote:
ygmir wrote:I purposely left "old" out, Elltiot:
I enjoy women, of all ages. All beautiful, in some way.
For sure! I was referring to the men -- old farts like me. (I can say that, because I'm older than Ygmir.)
:D
But, taken in the context of "opposites", using "old" in your "inverse dream hypothesis", it would imply, only wanting sex with young women.
I did not want to imply any such thoughts, as relates to me.
YGMIR

Unabashed Nordic
Pagan

User avatar
lucky420
Posts: 9280
Joined: Fri Mar 12, 2010 9:47 am
Burning Since: 2021
Camp Name: Dye with Dignity
Location: Reno, NV

Re: Suicidal Tendencies

Post by lucky420 » Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:56 am

ygmir wrote:
I purposely left "old" out, Elltiot:
I enjoy women, of all ages. All beautiful, in some way.
***swoon****
Oh my god, it's HUGE!

User avatar
Elliot
Posts: 7772
Joined: Sun Dec 18, 2005 8:41 pm
Burning Since: 2006

Re: Suicidal Tendencies

Post by Elliot » Thu Dec 29, 2011 11:08 am

ygmir wrote:But, taken in the context of "opposites", using "old" in your "inverse dream hypothesis", it would imply....
Touche. I bow to the master of linguistic analysis.
:D

User avatar
maryanimal
Posts: 4030
Joined: Wed Jul 28, 2010 9:41 am
Burning Since: 2011

Re: Suicidal Tendencies

Post by maryanimal » Thu Dec 29, 2011 7:22 pm

Yggy, you silver-tongued devil! :twisted:
Sometimes I'm confused by what I think is really obvious. But what I think is really obvious obviously isn't obvious.

User avatar
ibdave
Posts: 3520
Joined: Mon Sep 01, 2003 4:09 pm
Burning Since: 1998

Re: Suicidal Tendencies

Post by ibdave » Fri Dec 30, 2011 9:40 am

maryanimal wrote:Yggy, you silver-tongued devil! :twisted:
lot of moss growing on that tongue.. :shock:
I was Born OK the 1st Time....

Don't bring defaultia to Burning Man, take Burning Man to defaultia...... graidawg

User avatar
maryanimal
Posts: 4030
Joined: Wed Jul 28, 2010 9:41 am
Burning Since: 2011

Re: Suicidal Tendencies

Post by maryanimal » Fri Dec 30, 2011 9:51 am

Doesn't moss grow in moist warm places?
Sometimes I'm confused by what I think is really obvious. But what I think is really obvious obviously isn't obvious.

User avatar
goathead
Posts: 5317
Joined: Tue Sep 02, 2003 5:02 pm
Burning Since: 1999
Location: Where I live is not far from home.

Re: Suicidal Tendencies

Post by goathead » Fri Dec 30, 2011 9:54 am

SNORT

blow coffee on screen....

User avatar
Elliot
Posts: 7772
Joined: Sun Dec 18, 2005 8:41 pm
Burning Since: 2006

Re: Suicidal Tendencies

Post by Elliot » Fri Dec 30, 2011 9:57 am

:D
Announcement:
Those of us who are not going elsewhere for New Year's Eve will be ringing in the new year on the Da Bar #3 thread. Please join us there.
It being a new year, newcomers are specially invited! :D

User avatar
maryanimal
Posts: 4030
Joined: Wed Jul 28, 2010 9:41 am
Burning Since: 2011

Re: Suicidal Tendencies

Post by maryanimal » Fri Dec 30, 2011 9:58 am

*hands goathead a towel *
Sometimes I'm confused by what I think is really obvious. But what I think is really obvious obviously isn't obvious.

User avatar
ygmir
Posts: 29580
Joined: Thu Sep 20, 2007 8:36 pm
Burning Since: 2017
Camp Name: qqqq
Location: nevada county

Re: Suicidal Tendencies

Post by ygmir » Fri Dec 30, 2011 2:18 pm

ibdave wrote:
maryanimal wrote:Yggy, you silver-tongued devil! :twisted:
lot of moss growing on that tongue.. :shock:
that's just scrape marks from licking my eyebrows while wearing glasses.
YGMIR

Unabashed Nordic
Pagan

User avatar
Elliot
Posts: 7772
Joined: Sun Dec 18, 2005 8:41 pm
Burning Since: 2006

Re: Suicidal Tendencies

Post by Elliot » Fri Dec 30, 2011 4:36 pm

Once again, the Enterprise D computer:
Warning. Thread drift in progress. Warning. Thread drift in progress. Core breach in 30 minutes.
:lol:

User avatar
gyre
Posts: 15457
Joined: Sun Aug 07, 2005 6:01 pm
Location: ΦάÏ

Re: Suicidal Tendencies

Post by gyre » Fri Dec 30, 2011 4:47 pm

I'm on a forum where they don't even count posts they don't think are useful.


'+1' gets a reprimand and delete.

User avatar
ibdave
Posts: 3520
Joined: Mon Sep 01, 2003 4:09 pm
Burning Since: 1998

Re: Suicidal Tendencies

Post by ibdave » Fri Dec 30, 2011 11:20 pm

ygmir wrote:
ibdave wrote:
maryanimal wrote:Yggy, you silver-tongued devil! :twisted:
lot of moss growing on that tongue.. :shock:
that's just scrape marks from licking my eyebrows while wearing glasses.
[youtube][/youtube] 8) 8)
I was Born OK the 1st Time....

Don't bring defaultia to Burning Man, take Burning Man to defaultia...... graidawg

User avatar
ibdave
Posts: 3520
Joined: Mon Sep 01, 2003 4:09 pm
Burning Since: 1998

Re: Suicidal Tendencies

Post by ibdave » Fri Dec 30, 2011 11:29 pm

gyre wrote:I'm on a forum where they don't even count posts they don't think are useful.


biting lip... biting lip.... :roll: :roll:
I was Born OK the 1st Time....

Don't bring defaultia to Burning Man, take Burning Man to defaultia...... graidawg

User avatar
gyre
Posts: 15457
Joined: Sun Aug 07, 2005 6:01 pm
Location: ΦάÏ

Re: Suicidal Tendencies

Post by gyre » Fri Dec 30, 2011 11:59 pm

Ah, you got nothing.

User avatar
geekster
Posts: 4867
Joined: Wed Sep 08, 2004 2:53 pm
Location: Hospice For The Terminally Breathing
Contact:

Re: Suicidal Tendencies

Post by geekster » Sat Dec 31, 2011 2:05 am

My kids' uncle, their Mom's brother, my brother-in-law decided there was no silver bullet to solve his problem with depression so he used a lead one last night. Successful lawyer, father of two young children (elementary school), no warning. Just "boom". He actually made it into the parking lot of an "acute crises center", but never went inside. He said in letters he mailed to family members that it would only prolong the agony. His kids are going to hate Christmas for the rest of their lives, probably.
Pabst Blue Ribbon - The beer that made Gerlach famous.

User avatar
AntiM
Moderator
Posts: 20227
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2004 5:23 am
Burning Since: 2001
Camp Name: Anti M's Home for Wayward Art
Location: Wild, Wild West
Contact:

Re: Suicidal Tendencies

Post by AntiM » Sat Dec 31, 2011 6:33 am

Damn, Geekster, hugs, and hug those kids a lot. Damn.

User avatar
ygmir
Posts: 29580
Joined: Thu Sep 20, 2007 8:36 pm
Burning Since: 2017
Camp Name: qqqq
Location: nevada county

Re: Suicidal Tendencies

Post by ygmir » Sat Dec 31, 2011 6:54 am

awe crap, Geekster........so, so sorry for the kids, and the rest of the family...........so sorry..............
YGMIR

Unabashed Nordic
Pagan

User avatar
ygmir
Posts: 29580
Joined: Thu Sep 20, 2007 8:36 pm
Burning Since: 2017
Camp Name: qqqq
Location: nevada county

Re: Suicidal Tendencies

Post by ygmir » Sat Dec 31, 2011 6:55 am

ibdave wrote:
gyre wrote:I'm on a forum where they don't even count posts they don't think are useful.


biting lip... biting lip.... :roll: :roll:
+1
YGMIR

Unabashed Nordic
Pagan

User avatar
gyre
Posts: 15457
Joined: Sun Aug 07, 2005 6:01 pm
Location: ΦάÏ

Re: Suicidal Tendencies

Post by gyre » Sat Dec 31, 2011 7:01 am

ygmir wrote:
+1
Irony.

Well done

User avatar
ygmir
Posts: 29580
Joined: Thu Sep 20, 2007 8:36 pm
Burning Since: 2017
Camp Name: qqqq
Location: nevada county

Re: Suicidal Tendencies

Post by ygmir » Sat Dec 31, 2011 7:12 am

gyre wrote:
ygmir wrote:
+1
Irony.

Well done
[youtube][/youtube]
YGMIR

Unabashed Nordic
Pagan

User avatar
Elliot
Posts: 7772
Joined: Sun Dec 18, 2005 8:41 pm
Burning Since: 2006

Re: Suicidal Tendencies

Post by Elliot » Sat Dec 31, 2011 9:26 am

geekster wrote: He said... (...an acute crisis center...) ...would only prolong the agony.
This phenomenon would seem to be a key obstacle to prevention/intervention.

Sounds to me like he drove to that facility only to aid in the disposal of his body. Other victims have died outside hospitals and funeral parlors. Minimize the trauma for the family. I've had the same idea.

Geekster, please accept my condolences.

User avatar
geekster
Posts: 4867
Joined: Wed Sep 08, 2004 2:53 pm
Location: Hospice For The Terminally Breathing
Contact:

Re: Suicidal Tendencies

Post by geekster » Sat Dec 31, 2011 9:54 am

Sounds to me like he drove to that facility only to aid in the disposal of his body.
He didn't do himself in there. Apparently he drove there some time before he shot himself because he talked about it in letters he mailed to his wife, mother, and siblings. Apparently he wanted them to know that he had considered but rejected the idea. What he did was check in to a hotel then sat down at the curb in the parking lot next to his car and did it there.

He created a facebook page a few days before, friended most of the family, then left one single posting right before he did it that simply said "I love you all" and that was it. This wasn't something that was spur of the moment. It was premeditated. Apparently he had been carrying on an affair for 15 years with a high-school sweetheart he had first dated when he was 14. I guess that can cause stress in one's life. She apparently broke things off with him and that was the trigger but nobody is really going to know the whole story, I don't think.
Pabst Blue Ribbon - The beer that made Gerlach famous.

User avatar
maryanimal
Posts: 4030
Joined: Wed Jul 28, 2010 9:41 am
Burning Since: 2011

Re: Suicidal Tendencies

Post by maryanimal » Sat Dec 31, 2011 5:17 pm

I'm so sorry geekster. Take care of your your wife and SIL. They'll need you more than ever at this time. hug the smalls one tight for me.
Sometimes I'm confused by what I think is really obvious. But what I think is really obvious obviously isn't obvious.

User avatar
maryanimal
Posts: 4030
Joined: Wed Jul 28, 2010 9:41 am
Burning Since: 2011

Re: Suicidal Tendencies

Post by maryanimal » Sat Dec 31, 2011 11:51 pm

*Walks in...turns the light on and looks around, sits on a folding chair*

I'm happy it's quiet in here.

*get's up, walks way, turns around to look one more time, flips light off. walks out and locks door*
Sometimes I'm confused by what I think is really obvious. But what I think is really obvious obviously isn't obvious.

User avatar
ibdave
Posts: 3520
Joined: Mon Sep 01, 2003 4:09 pm
Burning Since: 1998

Re: Suicidal Tendencies

Post by ibdave » Sun Jan 01, 2012 3:13 am

ygmir wrote:
ibdave wrote:
gyre wrote:I'm on a forum where they don't even count posts they don't think are useful.


biting lip... biting lip.... :roll: :roll:
+1
:twisted: 8)

zoom zoom... again
I was Born OK the 1st Time....

Don't bring defaultia to Burning Man, take Burning Man to defaultia...... graidawg

User avatar
ibdave
Posts: 3520
Joined: Mon Sep 01, 2003 4:09 pm
Burning Since: 1998

Re: Suicidal Tendencies

Post by ibdave » Sun Jan 01, 2012 3:16 am

geekster, so sorry...... :cry: :cry:
I was Born OK the 1st Time....

Don't bring defaultia to Burning Man, take Burning Man to defaultia...... graidawg

User avatar
Elliot
Posts: 7772
Joined: Sun Dec 18, 2005 8:41 pm
Burning Since: 2006

Re: Suicidal Tendencies

Post by Elliot » Tue Jan 10, 2012 9:54 pm

:D
Nine days without a post -- mental healthiness has broken out all over the land!

About that business of dreams.
I'm reading a novel where the protagonist suffers from Post Traumatic Stress Disorder, and he talks of sweating profusely during nightmares.
And earlier, somewhere else (non-fiction), I've read that we do not remember the many dreams we have while we sleep; but only the last one, the one that is still more-or-less running when we wake up.
Third, I used to find myself soaked in sweat in the middle of the night, quite often. For some time -- years -- it was routine for me to change my shirt and pillow in the middle of the night.
Finally, there was the recent dream, out of the blue, where I killed my father.

Putting these four items together, it occurs to me that I may have had a lot of narsty dreams that I do not remember. I used to think of the sweating as a result of temperature changes in the house; the number of blankets I had over me, and maybe kicked off me; that sort of thing. Now I'm not so sure. Considering how close I have been to Intolerable Desperation, maybe years of "secret" nightmares would explain some things? Is this plausible?

Thoughts? Knowledge?

User avatar
gyre
Posts: 15457
Joined: Sun Aug 07, 2005 6:01 pm
Location: ΦάÏ

Re: Suicidal Tendencies

Post by gyre » Tue Jan 10, 2012 10:00 pm

Maybe?

I sleep cold, but often wake up too hot, and I don't think that usually relates to dreams, just comfort.

But it sounds like you're talking about a more dramatic experience.

Post Reply

Return to “Open Discussion”