Lost Most Of My Money To Larry Harvey

[cowboyangel]

Any move to establish a Black Rock health insurance fund based on the notions of gifting and sharing?
Any move to establish a Black Rock workers union to share some of the wealth with those who work hard to put on the event?
Any move to make the event majorly less gas and oil intensive?

Where's the expression of policy and implementation of noble ideals in concrete forms?

Money in Larry's pocket........

[Isotopia]

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[Isotopia]

Any suggestion on a cogent, workable means of doing it rather than the typical Worker's World blather that so many ideologues - such as yourself - puke forth like clockwork every 3 months?

Any chance you can put forth said idea without boring most readers here with your idealistic, egalitarian bullshit?

[Isotopia]

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[theCryptofishist]

His bullshit won't bore me, I put that vile, vile man on plonk a long time ago. He's definitely an inadequate personality trying to get noticed with scattershot whining. Any reason you're winding him up?

[Isotopia]

Any reason you're winding him up?

Because it pleases me to do so.

Any other questions?

[theCryptofishist]

No, just curious.

[A Jester]

Any chance you're going to give me a steak and a blowjob?

[cowboyangel]

I love you ISO ya big dope. Fishy too. She has forgiveness in her heart somewhere if only she could remove the rancid part of her brain.

[1durphul]

You know... there could be a money making opportunity for the BRC LLC in your thoughts cowboyangel.

I could see them striking a deal with Nevada's medical air people to offer an "add on" for the ticket purchase for a weeks worth of flight insurance. Or how about an add-on to prepay for off road tow insurance? I'd gladly tick off a checkbox on the website ticket order form in order to obtain both of those at a group discount rate.

This doesn't address the union issue you speak of... but it seems to me like the DPW crew doesn't much want to unionize. They aren't children easily mislead, they are adults with brains that function just fine, and the ability to make rational decisions on their own. Unions are important, they are what gave America a middle class. You know what they say about horses and water....

[Lassen Forge]

...it seems to me like the DPW crew ... aren't children easily mislead, they are adults with brains that function just fine, and the ability to make rational decisions on their own.... You know what they say about horses and water....

Only some. Some of them seem to have bladder issues (as well as reading the guidelines in TWII)- I am still considering sending a case of Depends to them (via Gameshow), maybe along with a video on housebreaking.

It's one thing to pee on the open playa during setup, or even during the event. Or had it been their staff dog (who was there), yeah, that I'd understand. It's quite another to drop yer linen and piss in the middle of a village, a day after opening, then threaten to (and then do so) again a couple days later. Super doubleplus Uncool.

Sadly, their lack of offering even an apology to my camp for this stupidity cost them my customary and usual 10 case beer donation this year (hell, if they can't control it they don't need MORE beer). Let's just say... I'm (like the street) still pissed.

Hell - to think I almost volunteered with them. Their loss.

[JStep]

but it seems to me like the DPW crew doesn't much want to unionize. They aren't children easily mislead, they are adults with brains that function just fine, and the ability to make rational decisions on their own.

Wow. I'd like to meet these DPW folks. Seriously. Are there more than 2 of them? I'd like to have a conversation with them about their shitty attitudes and downright hostile agressive behavior. I know, I know, part of the experience right? Well, I don't buy that. Guess cause I'm a noob, or idealistic. I've dealt with Rainbow front gate crew and Dead Lot Wrecking Crew and they are whiskey swilling, loud, rude, aggressive biker and grizzled veteran types and they are far less obnoxious than what I witnessed. My one and only negative interaction all week with any group or individual and it was disgusting. Seriously. Punching someone in the face cause he wont let you blatantly steal the camps beer? Blocking the intersection to beg and whine and cry for everyone to give you their drink? What a bunch of fucking losers. Threatening people with expulsion and black listing for just telling you to move on? (As if you have that power) When I learned what DPW does I had thought "What a cool thing to do, I might like to help sometime". Heh. Glad I never sought that out. I would never want my name associated with Department of Public Works, or as I now refer to them the Drunk Pushy Whiners.

OK /rant. I just had to get that out of my brain. I'll probably edit it out when I start getting death threats. lol.

[goathead]

LMAO

You should have meet them before they where forced to behave.
At least they are surviving on more the PBR and drugs these days.
Shit some of them even take showers now.

[JStep]

LMAO

You should have meet them before they where forced to behave.
At least they are surviving on more the PBR and drugs these days.
Shit some of them even take showers now.

Seriously? They were even more thuggish before and no one's murdered or seriously injured the lot of them? I can't believe they could have acted like that back when people were bringing automatic weapons to Burning Man without most of them getting wasted. (And I don't mean shit-faced lol I mean annihilated by someone with 60 rounds per minute and better aim)

[goathead]

JStep

would I kid you?
I could tell you stories of the old DPW, but, they actually have changed a lot.
So I won't.

About the only way to get to know them is pre/post event.

[Isotopia]

Changed or not the bottom line is that DPW is held to account for the same community standards as he rest of us.

Assault? Contact a Ranger. Any reports of assault mandates that we contact BLM/Pershing/LLC.

I know first hand of one DPW agro situation where a fist flew. Fucker was out of the event. Gone.

Assault is NOT OK at the event. Doesn't matter who the fuck is doing it or for what reason.

Period. Well, almost (see caveat below.)

Wish more people would would step up to the plate when they witness this sort of shit or are a victim of it.

And for whatever it's worth, a very large majority of the DPW folks don't abide by such bullshit.

Well, unless some hippie tries to give you a creepy, unsolicited hug. All bets are off then.

[1durphul]

Well, unless some hippie tries to give you a creepy, unsolicited hug. All bets are off then.

*hug*

*throws a patchouli smoke bomb on the ground and disappears before the cloud disperses.*

[BBadger]

Where's the expression of policy and implementation of noble ideals in concrete forms?

And what? Let more riff-raff hippies in?

[JStep]

And for whatever it's worth, a very large majority of the DPW folks don't abide by such bullshit.

As far as reporting it goes, I didn't see who threw the punch as I was directly behind the guy who got hit, and he didn't seem interested in reporting anything so there would be little for me to report other than someone on the DPW truck punched this guy in the face but I don't know who it was.

There were at least 20 DPW involved in this ugly mess, most of them stayed on the vehicles and just begged for alchohol, a couple got off the truck and one of them (a very visibly drunk girl who didn't appear to be much older than 20 but could have been as old as 26 or so) tried to steal the crate of beer, she picked it up and started running off with it, the guy who got hit grabbed it (this was before he got hit) and held it on the ground between his feet. Someone else reached in and stole some cans from the crate and jumped back on another vehicle, the drunk gril kept tugging at the crate while the rest of the crew either taunted us all for beer, begged for the beer, and a couple of them indignantly yelling "You want to come back next year?" when someone told them to move on. The guy who got hit tossed them a can at someone's urging, hoping this would encourage them to just go the fuck away. That's when he got punched. A fine thank you from the Drunk Pushy Whiner crew.

A couple of these yahoos were trying to quell their compatriots, most of them were just begging and taunting and egging the wasted girl on, and as a whole the whole group were a motley thuggish bunch of wasted losers on a mission to beg or steal whatever beer or booze they could get.

[Lassen Forge]

I remember the old DPW. I also remember a lot of them said 'la vista' when they were told to conform to the same base rules the rest of us do. No great loss, they needed to do their own thing, as did we.

I also remember when you didn't want to get caught near the ghetto. Had one start yelling bullshit at yours truly about how if I stopped (driving to work, wearing ESD yellow) he was gonna come out and kick my ass...

Yeah, they have changed. And a lot of them, yeah, won't put up with the shit that was commonplace back then. Doesn't mean they don't get yahoos that just don't get it, or think they're burnier than thou, or have their heads up their asses (like said tinkle princess)... but yeah. I look at it this way - if I have to abide by the community rules they make us, as staph, follow, you bet your ass they should.

As a closing note - had tinkle bell or someone come up and apologized for that bimbo's bladder bombardment, I woulda been supercool with it all - hey, shit happens (well, lucky for us it wasn't shit that happened...)... It's the fuck you we're entitled attatude that sucks. Because, I'll be damned if I walk into their compound and piss in the middle of it. Not out of fear, but because of the mutual respect that comes of mutual employers and mutual rules and stuff.

[A Jester]

If you have any real problems with DPW, and for whatever reason don't decide to get Rangers or the cops involved, you can always just remember their name and then contact the head of DPW (google it) and share your feedback. DPW managers are the only thing that's sure to scare drunk DPW workers.

As I understand it, the managers are pretty sick of the asshole act, too. They might just kick that person out of DPW.

[theCryptofishist]

Where's the expression of policy and implementation of noble ideals in concrete forms?

And what? Let more riff-raff hippies in?

Concrete forms sounds more like riff-raff mafioso.

[cowboyangel]

Who winds up who really?

If you 're gonna spout new age bullshit like Larry does...time to put your money where your mouth is and create that alternative society that works for all...including those who can't afford medical costs resulting from careless behavior of others at the burn. But if all you have is rotting grey matter in your cranium then you attack the messenger...oh how fucking boring...and low class.