COUNTDOWN to the APOCALYPSE

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Re: COUNTDOWN to the APOCALYPSE

Postby Simon of the Playa » Thu Oct 25, 2012 10:13 am

what? Me Worry?
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Postby pinemom » Thu Oct 25, 2012 10:13 am

her nipples made my nipples blink. J/S
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Re: COUNTDOWN to the APOCALYPSE

Postby ygmir » Thu Oct 25, 2012 10:31 am

ok, so........yeah, I get the Empire thing, I do, but there's a reason no one lived there, before mining......ya gotta have reliable water. yup, there's springs, I know. but it's so dependent on seasonal water, and the mineralization of some of the water out there makes it unusable. Out there, the winter is "way" colder than over here, and that's huge when you don't have firewood after the first year or so. and yeah, hot springs...but they require maintenance and piping...both vulnerable and eventually need materials for repair.
The soil there is gonna be marginal in most areas, though there will be very good soil in spots. Again, though, it's gotta be close and protectable.
No matter where you set up, if there is a number of folks, others will show up, some helpful, some not......so no matter where, you gotta defend.

But, finding ample water and fuel, and if you can have the added benefit of elevation differences for water (gravity) for power, you reduce drastically the need for fuel.

IMHO, you(we) find a place, and fight to take/keep it. but a good sustainable place........northern CA, southern OR.
There may well be isolated areas anywhere, but considering long term needs and vulnerabilities, it's best to try to use weather and climate to your advantage.
Not too hot, not too cold.
gravity
sun
trees/water for renewable.
soil

Also consider where lots of animals live. Not only do they know wheres best, but, they themselves are a source of raw material and food.....some very essential. Protein in the desert might get pretty scarce.


and no, I don't think or or plan for this as a life long hobby obsession
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Re: COUNTDOWN to the APOCALYPSE

Postby Ugly Dougly » Thu Oct 25, 2012 10:36 am

If the world is going to end soon, doesn't that mean that you don't have to stock up that much firewood? ;)

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Re: COUNTDOWN to the APOCALYPSE

Postby Simon of the Playa » Thu Oct 25, 2012 10:36 am

you pack what you want, i'll pack what i want...



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Postby theCryptofishist » Thu Oct 25, 2012 10:45 am

ygmir wrote:and no, I don't think or or plan for this as a life long hobby obsession

Okay, if I weren't trying to die as quickly and painlessly as possible, I'd go to ygmir. I might still go to ygmir, because his reasoning is lucid. And I'm sure he could improvise something.
Although, he forgot to mention that the hotsprings can be lethal.
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Postby pinemom » Thu Oct 25, 2012 10:54 am

I meant a meet up...(new empire) till we get our poop in a group. Then we can set out in mass(safety 3rd dontcha know) to go where what makes the most sense and probability.....
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Re: COUNTDOWN to the APOCALYPSE

Postby lucky420 » Thu Oct 25, 2012 11:05 am

So we're meeting at the Hof? :?
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Postby theCryptofishist » Thu Oct 25, 2012 11:05 am

That does depend on being able to fuel up at gas stations... They will be unattended and without power to pump up the fuel. I think. And there's no way of being sure which do and do not have fuel. Although, if you're mad maxing it, you might need a school bus. Or two. Or twenty.
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Re: COUNTDOWN to the APOCALYPSE

Postby theCryptofishist » Thu Oct 25, 2012 11:05 am

lucky420 wrote:So we're meeting at the Hof? :?

Still under debate.
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Postby Simon of the Playa » Thu Oct 25, 2012 11:08 am

well at least we'll all be together this christmas...
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Re: COUNTDOWN to the APOCALYPSE

Postby ygmir » Thu Oct 25, 2012 12:01 pm

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ygmir wrote:and no, I don't think or or plan for this as a life long hobby obsession

Okay, if I weren't trying to die as quickly and painlessly as possible, I'd go to ygmir. I might still go to ygmir, because his reasoning is lucid. And I'm sure he could improvise something.
Although, he forgot to mention that the hotsprings can be lethal.


and Fishy, I'd do what's right, and what you want........and you'd be safe with us!! it's not all about "big strong swing ax".......we also need people who can think clearly (your mind is beyond compare), and proposed alternate ideas........and cuss in German and make pluot vodka.
and yeah, I didn't mention the lethality of some hot springs.......gotta leave something for Darwin, and "the Walking Dude".
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lucky420 wrote:So we're meeting at the Hof? :?

Still under debate.


true. the Hof, is more a "zombie Apocalypse spot.....it'd not be good long term, high elevation and all.......unless all we wanted to do was eat meat.

I have several portable generators, for fueling.......and know the little secret, that, fuel stations run on 3 phase power, so a regular genny won't do it, anyway. but I do know how to convert single to 3 phase mechanically.
one interesting thing about the county I live in, is, we have tons of hydroelectric dams, and as projected could way over supply our own power needs.

I also have a 2500 watt solar array, just in case.
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Re: COUNTDOWN to the APOCALYPSE

Postby graidawg » Thu Oct 25, 2012 12:27 pm

I learnt to fly some 25 years ago, actually before i started planning for the apocolypse. So all in all wherever we gather i need somewhere flat to land. Also, a list of people to collect along the way (airport names will do) after all a jumbo jet can't be any more difficult than a cesna can it?
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Re: COUNTDOWN to the APOCALYPSE

Postby burner von braun » Thu Oct 25, 2012 12:37 pm

Yep, those jumbo jets practically fly themselves..

Dang, I'm liking this plan more and more!

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Re: COUNTDOWN to the APOCALYPSE

Postby ygmir » Thu Oct 25, 2012 12:40 pm

graidawg wrote:I learnt to fly some 25 years ago, actually before i started planning for the apocolypse. So all in all wherever we gather i need somewhere flat to land. Also, a list of people to collect along the way (airport names will do) after all a jumbo jet can't be any more difficult than a cesna can it?

yeah Grai.......in fact, if you need a refresher, you might just ask the school for takeoff lessons, no need to land.
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Re: COUNTDOWN to the APOCALYPSE

Postby graidawg » Thu Oct 25, 2012 12:41 pm

seriously, why didnt the apocolypse arrive like 6 weeks ago? it would of saved a lot of effort.
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Re: COUNTDOWN to the APOCALYPSE

Postby ygmir » Thu Oct 25, 2012 12:50 pm

graidawg wrote:seriously, why didnt the apocolypse arrive like 6 weeks ago? it would of saved a lot of effort.


evidently you didn't get the memo.
they wanted to give time to count hanging chads and dead voters in Chicago, so we'd know who to blame if it happens, or not.
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Re: COUNTDOWN to the APOCALYPSE

Postby theCryptofishist » Thu Oct 25, 2012 12:55 pm

ygmir wrote:
graidawg wrote:I learnt to fly some 25 years ago, actually before i started planning for the apocolypse. So all in all wherever we gather i need somewhere flat to land. Also, a list of people to collect along the way (airport names will do) after all a jumbo jet can't be any more difficult than a cesna can it?

yeah Grai.......in fact, if you need a refresher, you might just ask the school for takeoff lessons, no need to land.

Exactly what I thought.

And I'm not sure that my mind would be very clear if I was under constant pins and needles attacks. And the likeliest cure would be poppy--and I'm not sure that wouldn't be too labor intensive. But thanks for saying so.
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Re: COUNTDOWN to the APOCALYPSE

Postby Trishntek » Thu Oct 25, 2012 1:46 pm

I'm with Simon on this one. Surround myself with beauty and pleasure. Eat, Drink and Be Merry! Eat what you can't fuck.
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Postby theCryptofishist » Thu Oct 25, 2012 2:07 pm

Trishntek wrote:Eat what you can't fuck.

Hm. Some things might do for both...
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Postby Trishntek » Thu Oct 25, 2012 2:39 pm

Yeah, that did occur to me too.
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Postby unjonharley » Thu Oct 25, 2012 3:33 pm

Looks like I will have to give up my sedentary life..

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Re: COUNTDOWN to the APOCALYPSE

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Re: COUNTDOWN to the APOCALYPSE

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Re: COUNTDOWN to the APOCALYPSE

Postby FIGJAM » Fri Oct 26, 2012 6:46 am

Frankie tells me all I need to know! 8)


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Re: COUNTDOWN to the APOCALYPSE

Postby Ugly Dougly » Fri Oct 26, 2012 9:46 am

One day he will be right.
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Re: COUNTDOWN to the APOCALYPSE

Postby latchseeker » Fri Oct 26, 2012 12:00 pm

unjonharley wrote:Looks like I will have to give up my sedentary life..


:mrgreen: I've Ben So bored All my life!! Finally I can have the opportunity to utilize my inherent skills. I always knew hoop jumping and line standing weren't legitimate skillz. It's like, being a rocket scientist in a room full of Legos.
Though all of this survival talk is nonsense anyway. There will be power and supplies and all that, just not available to the public. They've already been actively making soil uninhabitable by any seed not modified to withstand a toxic amount of aluminium. Plus once you no longer receive you dose of "treated water" most folks will lose grip. Not to mention the HARPR Program, and whatever it might be that is being planned for the FEMA camps. (sidenote; is there a FEMA camp at BRC? come in, get poorly feed, possible roughed up a little bit and pushed into a room full of other sweaty naked people? :wink: )

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Re: COUNTDOWN to the APOCALYPSE

Postby Sail Man » Fri Oct 26, 2012 3:42 pm

lucky420 wrote:So we're meeting at the Hof? :?


Hmmm sounds nice, but a 2500 mile bug out sounds rather iffy at best for moi. I'm concerned just making it 250 miles up north once the walls come down and the horde flee's Detroit.
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Re: COUNTDOWN to the APOCALYPSE

Postby ygmir » Fri Oct 26, 2012 7:28 pm

Sail Man wrote:
lucky420 wrote:So we're meeting at the Hof? :?


Hmmm sounds nice, but a 2500 mile bug out sounds rather iffy at best for moi. I'm concerned just making it 250 miles up north once the walls come down and the horde flee's Detroit.

damn1 that means we'll have to let Chuck Norris in..........we need "one" and you were first choice.
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Re: COUNTDOWN to the APOCALYPSE

Postby theCryptofishist » Fri Oct 26, 2012 8:14 pm

Chuck Norris is an EMT?


Although, aggressive intubation is a good explanation for some of his behavior.
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