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The Car Thread

Postby gyre » Sun Oct 06, 2013 6:25 am

Thoroughly engaged in suspension dynamics, the friction circle and race strategy?
Clip apexes without thinking about it?
Just like cars?
Here you go.

Rules? It has to have an engine.
Bikes and art cars are welcome.

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Re: The Car Thread

Postby gyre » Sun Oct 06, 2013 6:32 am

This is a street legal Radical RXC.
I met a burner at the Rocketship that drives a Radical, so let's start with that.
He was totally astounded that I knew what they were.
He's in southern california and said he never met anyone that had even heard of them before, an amazing thing in california.

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Re: The Car Thread

Postby gyre » Sun Oct 06, 2013 6:58 am

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Re: The Car Thread

Postby EspressoDude » Sun Oct 06, 2013 7:07 am

used to have mid engine Corvair. 327 V8 about 370 Chevrolet horsepower / 225 at the road. road hp calculated by mass/ acceleration + friction coasting hp. 1500lb front/1600 rear. That was a lot of fun, steering with the gas pedal!
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Re: The Car Thread

Postby gyre » Sun Oct 06, 2013 7:39 am

Amazing!
I came very close to buying one, with the original dealer kit.
Looked factory.
Black and chrome, beautiful.
Looked into them and there is a club.
Most of them are daily drivers.
There is a V8 wagon too.

I found the steering terrifying, as you might expect on that vintage.
How was yours?

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Re: The Car Thread

Postby gyre » Sun Oct 06, 2013 8:14 am

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There's a V8 Corvair being raced in Atlanta, and a Bonnevile Corvair.

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Re: The Car Thread

Postby geospyder » Sun Oct 06, 2013 8:29 am

Not as high powered as the cars above but it was still a lot of fun on the track...

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Re: The Car Thread

Postby Captain Goddammit » Sun Oct 06, 2013 8:38 am

An ex of mine had one of those MR2 Spyders, it was a pretty cool car - although I like my MIata better :) The MR2 was fancier and probably faster though.

This is my hot rod '55 Chevy, it's got an aluminum-head small block with dual quads, and a four speed Muncie. It's got 3.55 gears but I want 4.11s

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Re: The Car Thread

Postby ygmir » Sun Oct 06, 2013 8:43 am

my fastest H.P./weight was a CJ5 Jeep, with a 360 h.p. LT1 vette engine and 4speed with 5.20 gears.
Best top speed was 86 Mercedes 300 SDL. Took a long time to get there, but hauled ass once going.
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Re: The Car Thread

Postby Elorrum » Sun Oct 06, 2013 8:47 am

going to look at trucks soon. anybody have a feeling about a 2009 Ranger? I don't need to haul anything but camp gear, but need more volume. Shell and top rack a bonus, to my thinking. Currently drive a focus hatchback. 4 cyl, will mean o.k. gas mileage for daily commute. 30k miles
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Re: The Car Thread

Postby ygmir » Sun Oct 06, 2013 8:54 am

the people I've known that had them, loved the later model Rangers.
I had a Dakota I liked, v8 for power but still got about 20 mpg.
you drive that focus like a jeep, getting all the way to the Hof and all.......I can't imagine where you'd go with a truck.....4x4?
I've always liked trucks, willing to sacrifice some economy for safety and utility.
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Re: The Car Thread

Postby Elorrum » Sun Oct 06, 2013 9:12 am

ygmir wrote:the people I've known that had them, loved the later model Rangers.
I had a Dakota I liked, v8 for power but still got about 20 mpg.
you drive that focus like a jeep, getting all the way to the Hof and all.......I can't imagine where you'd go with a truck.....4x4?
I've always liked trucks, willing to sacrifice some economy for safety and utility.

ygmir, if you'd seen my car packed this year, you'd understand. It's volume. I'm also considering a van or station wagon. I'd love to pull up to a camping event, and not have to shlep out the tent and cot for one night, and then pack it all in again. I'm so envious of the folks who say, "we're going." and they just get in their truck and drive off, without the requisite hour and a half of packing. That plus room for the projects I had staged, but could not fit, and things I'm dreaming up for the years to come. Plastic parts in my car are starting to fail, and I think the writing is on the wall.
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Re: The Car Thread

Postby GreyCoyote » Sun Oct 06, 2013 9:13 am

Former SCCA National competitor and instructor here. Ran the ITC/B/A classes in the late 80's, moved up to to GT4 and GT3, ran an SSGT 5.0 for a while, spent a year (and a whole fooking lot of money) driving a Formula Atlantic, wrecked it most righteously (moved a section of the old pit wall at Willow Springs 2 feet on that one!), got out of the hospital and went to play in Super Production. Wrenched on just about everything else under the sun including a Lola T700 with a Drake "mystery engine" that was still-born due to a rules change (the Cosworth boys didn't want any competition). Hung-up my nomex in 2002 to raise a family and I have missed it ever since. The smell of CAM2 with just a whiff of nitromethane brings tears to my eyes...

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Re: The Car Thread

Postby mulch » Sun Oct 06, 2013 9:41 am

I currently have a 64 comet caliente that's a lot of fun but has a wimpy 260 engine. When searching the inter web to replace my 250k mile 80s mercedes sedan I saw a way underpriced AMG, it was totalled and rebuilt. So I bought an '08 E63 with very low miles for a song. I've never had a muscle car despite doing vintage cars for 20 years until this.

I loved the 500+ HP feel so much, I'll never go back to standard cars. Just put headers and chip reprogram getting her up to 570 HP supposedly. There is surprisingly a very different feel and naturally a different sound by adding 60 HP that way. Vroom. It costs too much but I'm intrigued by a supercharger kit that can get that car in the high 700 HP, but I don't think I'll do that.

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Re: The Car Thread

Postby ygmir » Sun Oct 06, 2013 9:43 am

Elorrum wrote:
ygmir wrote:the people I've known that had them, loved the later model Rangers.
I had a Dakota I liked, v8 for power but still got about 20 mpg.
you drive that focus like a jeep, getting all the way to the Hof and all.......I can't imagine where you'd go with a truck.....4x4?
I've always liked trucks, willing to sacrifice some economy for safety and utility.

ygmir, if you'd seen my car packed this year, you'd understand. It's volume. I'm also considering a van or station wagon. I'd love to pull up to a camping event, and not have to shlep out the tent and cot for one night, and then pack it all in again. I'm so envious of the folks who say, "we're going." and they just get in their truck and drive off, without the requisite hour and a half of packing. That plus room for the projects I had staged, but could not fit, and things I'm dreaming up for the years to come. Plastic parts in my car are starting to fail, and I think the writing is on the wall.

if I didn't have to carry so much load/weight at times, and be able to load and unload with a forklift and slings, I'd have a minivan.
Talk about utility! room for sleeping and stuff, decent economy, lots of gadgets..........
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Re: The Car Thread

Postby FIGJAM » Sun Oct 06, 2013 9:58 am

Chevy astro cargo vans are eveywhere and you could customize it into a mini RV. 8)
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Re: The Car Thread

Postby ygmir » Sun Oct 06, 2013 10:02 am

I'm hoping this will by my next military vehicle acquisition:

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Re: The Car Thread

Postby gyre » Sun Oct 06, 2013 1:24 pm

From a car forum - two of the people are on the same track today.
Guy set fast lap yesterday ... Today ...

#12:30 A> i didnt make it to T1
#12:30 A> ask D... quite violent
#12:31 A> he offered to drive me home, v classy of him
#12:32 B> FFS
#12:32 B> did you invert?
#12:34 A> red flag for > 10 min
#12:35 B> so where's the video?
#12:37 A> gotta get from someone else... all i saw was what the Stewards called me in to review
#12:37 C> Yikes, A. What happened?
#12:38 A> green flag, flat out top of 4th, we were running 4 wide, car to my right sort of drifted into me
#12:38 A> caught my RR, got me up in air, i helicoptered a few times
#12:38 A> violent collision into tire wall, landed center track
#12:38 A> 20 medical responders came out of nowhere, took my vitals
#12:38 A> all i know
#12:39 C> You OK?
#12:39 A> i think i took my hands off wheel cuz nothing broke
#12:39 A> i think so... no signs of concussion
#12:39 B> sweet
#12:39 C> yikes :shock:
#12:39 A> i showed B my new Butler seat yest - wow am i glad i put that in, maybe saved my ribs? i don't know
#12:39 B> more importantly. how's the car?
#12:40 A> bodywork is gone
#12:40 A> susp damage
#12:40 A> needs some spot welding, frame looks ok
#12:40 A> radiator shot
#12:40 C> So... pretty much totalled.
#12:40 A> #13:39 B> more importantly. how's the car? >> LOL!!!!!
#12:45 C> well, sorry to hear about the incident...
#12:45 C> sounds like it could have been worse
#12:45 A> yeah thanks, oh well...
#12:46 A> got a nice shout from PA, sitting on grid, and she said Congrats to [me] for having set fast lap in yest's race
#12:46 A> the ups, the downs!!!
#12:46 C> Oh yeah.
#12:46 B> the arounds
#12:50 B> so, what did the stewards decide?
#12:51 A> it was a racing incident
#12:52 A> i suppose i could have backed out? not really the point tho
#12:52 A> if i find good view i'll show it to u B. see what u think
#12:52 B> i think i dont ever want to do w2w

#13:21 B> you went off track left in the chute, right?
#13:29 A> yest?
#13:29 A> got tapped, spun, worked the brakes and ended up off track, right
#13:29 A> fairly easy to drive back on just past T5

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Re: The Car Thread

Postby Captain Goddammit » Sun Oct 06, 2013 1:33 pm

Mulch I love the '64 Comet!
I bought my first Miata intending to build a V8 Miata... but I'd end up with a ton of money in it, and it was supposed to be my solution for an economy daily driver that didn't suck and was halfway fun. I already have a hot rod car and even an old 6.6 Trans Am, so I've just left the Miata alone, except for buying a nicer one a few years ago.

The super-fast Benz is quite bad-ass but I've come to the realization that - at least around here - a fast street car isn't really good for anything but getting in trouble! I never drive the Chevy... It pretty much just makes the garage look cool.

In fact, coming from a car building background is what made me love building Mutant Vehicles. Show cars or even just cool vintage cruisers are never good enough and you are always stressed about damage, from rock chips to door dings (if you were ever to park it anywhere!). Mutants are fun! They are made to go get dirty and spill drinks on, you don't get tickets, and they are truly custom. Take the '55 Chevy to an event and there will be 14 other '55-'57 Chevys... Even if there are other boats at BM none are at all like mine.

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Re: The Car Thread

Postby strange love » Sun Oct 06, 2013 1:52 pm

I really want a vw vanagon 8)


Nice comet mulch. I have a 1963 ford falcon convertible, such a fun car.

Ooooh.. Nice 55 Captain!
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Re: The Car Thread

Postby gyre » Sun Oct 06, 2013 2:04 pm

Elorrum wrote:going to look at trucks soon. anybody have a feeling about a 2009 Ranger? I don't need to haul anything but camp gear, but need more volume.

There are several forums for rangers.
A lot of info.
Are you looking for manual or auto?

Before 1998, the suspension was tougher, only a relative opinion.
Some criticism of the new four cylinder.
I don't know really, but suspect it is fine.
May not be as good as the old one?

In rugged countries, there are two primary ideal small trucks, the toyota and the ranger.
So desirable that there are counterfeit rangers.
The usa gave the mujahideen in afghanistan a number of rangers.
They came with canadian flags marking them.
Because they are prized so highly, the flag was taken as a mark of the real thing.
So there are still mujahideen running around with canadian flags tattooed on their body in red.
They probably have no idea it is a canadian flag.

A dealer mechanic I know tells me that trucks are built to a different standard than average cars, though I observe that when you get into better european cars, the ruggedness goes up equally.

I had the exhaust on my ranger snap in two enroute to the burn.
It is so heavy duty, I am having it welded back together and putting it back on.
It's the original exhaust with about 200,000 miles on it.
It's possible it was damaged by hitting something underneath at some point.
The system lacks a flex joint (like many cheaper cars) and that would have prevented the failure, and reduced noise a lot.
That can be added.

People are starting to put diesels in these trucks too.
A lot of options there.

I strongly recommend against buying from a dealer.
Laughable prices there.
Also, consider whether you want a long cab or short, long or short bed.
And there are a LOT of options.
These include many chassis and spring differences and gearing.
It can take some effort to track down what is what.

I have my eye on it, but if you want it, I know of a loaded four cylinder, low mileage truck.
Quite a story.
The couple was into gold mining.
Bought the ranger specced for that, may even have limited slip.
He died, she's getting older and can't drive.
The ranger never made it to an adventure.
What stories though.
They can't get anything like full value for it.
And it is extremely rare to see a loaded four cylinder.
They usually only add goodies to the 4 litre.

Also, a local hitch shop has nos ranger factory receivers, far superior to anything sold now, and cheap.

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Re: The Car Thread

Postby gyre » Sun Oct 06, 2013 2:10 pm

Beautiful cars, guys!

I love Lola!
I actually have a Lola Can-am intake on a car.

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Re: The Car Thread

Postby gyre » Sun Oct 06, 2013 2:17 pm

strange love wrote:I really want a vw vanagon 8)


Nice comet mulch. I have a 1963 ford falcon convertible, such a fun car.

Ooooh.. Nice 55 Captain!

Yep, nice.
Falcon is very cool.

I saw an extended Vanagon at the burn, a later model.
i don't think they are practical stock anyway.
Beautiful job.
I had photos, if I can find them.
Engine upgrades are common too.
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Re: The Car Thread

Postby tatonka » Sun Oct 06, 2013 2:26 pm

My 66 Valient , motor water lines are plugged up with rust , heater went out , wiper motor burned up , but still runs :) I have a 75 Valient motor and tranny for it , kinda waiting to see how long this one goes :)

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Postby ygmir » Sun Oct 06, 2013 2:56 pm

tatonka wrote:My 66 Valient , motor water lines are plugged up with rust , heater went out , wiper motor burned up , but still runs :) I have a 75 Valient motor and tranny for it , kinda waiting to see how long this one goes :)

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Postby FIGJAM » Sun Oct 06, 2013 3:22 pm

Fill the cooling system with vinigar and let it sit a couple of days, then flush it out with water.

It will get rid of the rust. 8)
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Postby tatonka » Sun Oct 06, 2013 3:24 pm

FIGJAM wrote:Fill the cooling system with vinigar and let it sit a couple of days, then flush it out with water.

It will get rid of the rust. 8)


done it twice now , rust still pours out of there . Last time the water pump went out .
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Postby FIGJAM » Sun Oct 06, 2013 3:32 pm

Hopefully only the parts that need replacing are desolving, but I would keep trying till the water runs clear. :lol:
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Postby TT120 » Sun Oct 06, 2013 5:14 pm

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While I do like auto racing, it seems to me there are too many wheels to haul around the track. You really only need 2.
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Re: The Car Thread

Postby MikeGyver » Sun Oct 06, 2013 5:40 pm

Newest toy, 1982 Jeep Cherokee, 258 straight 6 with a 5 speed 4x4. sat in a field for 5 years just finished going through the fuel system, hopefully gonna start it tomorrow.
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