EL wire cheapest place to buy?
EL wire cheapest place to buy?
Where 's the cheapest place to find EL wire and accessories?
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sparkletarte
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If you search for el wire on the eplaya you'll come up with more than a couple suggestions.
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I'm interested in your bus and the biodiesel. I have a 2003 Dodge diesel (Cummins) truck that I am interested in converting to biodiesel once the warrantee expires on the engine. Cummins has done studies on it but they don't cover any damages caused by it, and they don't say yes or no as to the use of it.
It sounds like it works well for your bus. I'm concerned about how it reacts to the engine, as new diesel engines are very expensive. have you had any residue build-ups or anything like that, and effects on the seals? Also, are you in a cold part of Michigan? Do you have the whole pre-heater system hooked up to your tank, line, and carb (or whatever it is that diesels have)? Do you mix the oil with that additive that suggested to make it work better? What year is your engine?
Sorry for the hijack- I think other people may be interested in biodiesel as well, so I posted rather than pm'd.
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I'm interested in your bus and the biodiesel. I have a 2003 Dodge diesel (Cummins) truck that I am interested in converting to biodiesel once the warrantee expires on the engine. Cummins has done studies on it but they don't cover any damages caused by it, and they don't say yes or no as to the use of it.
It sounds like it works well for your bus. I'm concerned about how it reacts to the engine, as new diesel engines are very expensive. have you had any residue build-ups or anything like that, and effects on the seals? Also, are you in a cold part of Michigan? Do you have the whole pre-heater system hooked up to your tank, line, and carb (or whatever it is that diesels have)? Do you mix the oil with that additive that suggested to make it work better? What year is your engine?
Sorry for the hijack- I think other people may be interested in biodiesel as well, so I posted rather than pm'd.
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Mister Jellyfish Mister
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Re: EL wire cheapest place to buy?
Hello, back-stabber (inside joke).lapeer20m wrote:Where 's the cheapest place to find EL wire and accessories?
Here's the link where we are talking about el wire and the deals that come and go:
http://eplaya.burningman.org/viewtopic.php?t=3514
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the bus actually runs on used waste veggie oil, which is very different than biodoesel.
Waste veggie oil or WVO is simply that. Basically, its' just used french fry grease that is filtered prior to being put in the tank. WVO conversions require two separate fuel tanks, one tank for diesel, the other for veggie. The veggie tanks also needs to be heated. Placing a small heater core inside the veggie tank with engine coolant to heat the oil is the most common method.
Biodiesel on the other hand is far more labor intensive. Biodiesel requires a refining process with chemicals added to the mix, and a waste product left over after you've finished the batch. The advantage is that biodiesel will run in an unmodified vehicle with single tank.
My bus runs on wvo. However, i pretty much gave up on using oil in the winter. It's too labor intensive to get the now solid oil from the restaurant. Winter is the off season for the bus. The oil is liquid above about 30 degrees.
I have burned about 1,000 gallons of oil so far. When i find the replacement for this engine (my current engine is a 1991 6.6 liter brazilian made ford rated @ 180 hp. It's too wimpy for the bus) The diesel mechanic instructor at one of the local schools wants to tear down my engine and see if there's been any damage.
WVO is generally not happy with computer controlled diesels.
Waste veggie oil or WVO is simply that. Basically, its' just used french fry grease that is filtered prior to being put in the tank. WVO conversions require two separate fuel tanks, one tank for diesel, the other for veggie. The veggie tanks also needs to be heated. Placing a small heater core inside the veggie tank with engine coolant to heat the oil is the most common method.
Biodiesel on the other hand is far more labor intensive. Biodiesel requires a refining process with chemicals added to the mix, and a waste product left over after you've finished the batch. The advantage is that biodiesel will run in an unmodified vehicle with single tank.
My bus runs on wvo. However, i pretty much gave up on using oil in the winter. It's too labor intensive to get the now solid oil from the restaurant. Winter is the off season for the bus. The oil is liquid above about 30 degrees.
I have burned about 1,000 gallons of oil so far. When i find the replacement for this engine (my current engine is a 1991 6.6 liter brazilian made ford rated @ 180 hp. It's too wimpy for the bus) The diesel mechanic instructor at one of the local schools wants to tear down my engine and see if there's been any damage.
WVO is generally not happy with computer controlled diesels.
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sparkletarte
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Thannks for the excellent info! I was using wvo and biodiesel interchangably but I see they are not so much. There's no where to buy it around here that I know of, although I have heard about some folks nearby making some, trying to turn it into a business. I thought you could just take the wvo and add some -thing- to it, mix it and you'd have biodiesel. I didn't know about the issues with computer controlled engines and wvo- that would be a big concern. So I guess I'll let that idea sit for a while.
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