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Post by cowboyangel » Thu Jul 01, 2004 6:54 pm

cowboyangel wrote:he obviously hasn't figured that one out yet...wait till his wife finds out......

don't you think there should be some kind of playa internet assylum for us???
they could call it the "net house" oh.....boy..............not now...........

someone remind this guy that he must say "fuck" in this thread..........
heading off to Safeway....but is it safe? who knows.....with all the gmo's the woes the toes the Lo's the Ho's the shmos........
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Post by DVD Burner » Thu Jul 01, 2004 7:37 pm

cowboyangel wrote:
someone remind this guy that he must say "fuck" in this thread..........
Actually he did. He said he was getting fucking married.
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Post by cowboyangel » Thu Jul 01, 2004 8:10 pm

DVD Burner wrote:
cowboyangel wrote:
someone remind this guy that he must say "fuck" in this thread..........
Actually he did. He said he was getting fucking married.

no no I meant "me".....I was speaking in the 3rd person......


cowboyangel wrote:
he obviously hasn't figured that one out yet...wait till his wife finds out......

don't you think there should be some kind of playa internet assylum for us???
they could call it the "net house" oh.....boy..............not now...........


what did you think about the "net house" idea?
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Post by DVD Burner » Thu Jul 01, 2004 8:28 pm

cowboyangel wrote: what did you think about the "net house" idea?
On the Playa? fuck yeah, that'll fucking work.

And I was only joking about the married thing....kinda sorta. Hey I'm no comedian. :wink:
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Post by Lydia Love » Thu Jul 01, 2004 8:50 pm

Hey, Joel, congrats!!
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Post by Lydia Love » Thu Jul 01, 2004 8:51 pm

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I am, in fact, Lydia the tattooed lady.

(I'm fucking posting this here because I just plain CANNOT bump that other thread)
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Post by Tweeky » Thu Jul 01, 2004 9:31 pm

[Why the fuck is that parenthesis there and why the hell can't I fuckun get it off...get it...off..get it off :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: .fuck you![/u]

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Post by cowboyangel » Thu Jul 01, 2004 9:43 pm

Lydia Love wrote:Image

I am, in fact, Lydia the tattooed lady.

(I'm fucking posting this here because I just plain CANNOT bump that other thread)
I want to marry you lydia
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Post by Lydia Love » Thu Jul 01, 2004 10:36 pm

too fuckin late
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Post by cowboyangel » Thu Jul 01, 2004 10:48 pm

Lydia Love wrote:too fuckin late
not if we convert to Islam!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by cowboyangel » Thu Jul 01, 2004 10:51 pm

cowboyangel wrote:
Lydia Love wrote:too fuckin late
not if we convert to Islam!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
might as well make you Bambi of Finland one of my wives too
nah ha ha ha ha ha !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by cowboyangel » Thu Jul 01, 2004 11:08 pm

Fuck, finally Dick might be fucked...read on........


Dick Cheney and the $5 Million Man
by Doug Ireland



The Securities and Exchange Commission has finally opened a formal investigation into allegations that Halliburton (in partnership with French petro-engineering company Technip) funneled $180 million into a slush fund to pay bribes in the construction of a $6 billion Nigerian gas refinery--a scandal that French authorities have been probing for a year (for background, see Doug Ireland, "Will the French Indict Cheney?" December 29, 2003).

The energy conglomerate formerly headed by Dick Cheney disclosed the SEC probe (as it was required to do by law for any legal action potentially affecting the company's stock) on June 11. The timing of the disclosure was no accident--it was a Friday, the last day of the interminable Reagan funeral ceremonies, and Wall Street was thus closed. The national press corps focused on little else but the burial, so the SEC investigation got scant attention in the weekend papers (even the New York Times ran only a brief AP dispatch on its website).


Although the US media have shown little interest in the story, the investigation of the Halliburton Nigeria scandal by France's most celebrated investigating magistrate, Judge Renaud Van Ruymbeke, has continued making headlines in Paris--where the latest revelations bring the scandal right to the front door of Halliburton's Houston headquarters.

The Journal du Dimanche (JDD, a large Sunday paper) revealed on June 13 that Judge Van Ruymbeke's investigation has uncovered how Albert "Jack" Stanley, the president of huge Halliburton subsidiary Kellogg Brown & Root (KBR) at the time of the alleged bribery, received so-called "commissions" of 3 percent of the deal from the slush fund. The total amount Stanley received is some $5 million, according to reports in the International Herald Tribune and elsewhere. The Nigerian oil minister at the time, Dan Entete, got $2.5 million, reported the JDD. The slush fund was set up with Halliburton money by a London lawyer, Jeffrey Tesler--who worked for Halliburton at the same time he was financial adviser to the notoriously corrupt late Nigerian dictator Gen. Sani Abacha--as a shell-company front called TriStar, which Tesler established in the British tax haven of Gibraltar. Stanley, the 5 Million Dollar Man, is a close friend and associate of Dick Cheney.

In mid-May, after Judge Van Ruymbeke threatened to issue an international warrant to bring Tesler to France to testify, Tesler "voluntarily" came to Paris for two days of testimony under oath. Confronted by Van Ruymbeke with documents obtained through international search warrants targeting banks in Switzerland, Monaco, Madeira and elsewhere, Tesler admitted having made the highly unusual payments from the slush fund to then-KBR president Stanley, which Stanley had sent to a numbered bank account in Zurich baptized "Amal" (according to the French weekly Le Canard Enchaîné). Another huge payment of $350,000 was made to a top KBR executive, William Chaudran, which Chaudran had routed to an anonymous bank account in the island fiscal paradise of Jersey, Tesler testified. (Stanley, who is retired from KBR but maintains an office and secretary in Halliburton-KBR's Houston headquarters, did not return calls requesting comment, and neither did Halliburton-KBR's flack, Wendy Hall.)

The obvious question is: If the payments to the KBR execs were legitimate, why route them through secret foreign bank accounts? And where did the rest of the $180 million go? To the dictator Abacha, whose money adviser Tesler was, and other Abacha cronies?

Statements given by Halliburton to Le Figaro and other French papers covering the scandal claim the conglomerate had no knowledge of the payments to the KBR execs--and appeared to be setting up Stanley as the fall guy. Then, late on June 18 (another Friday), Halliburton abruptly announced it was severing all ties with Stanley, who was still a consultant to the company, accusing him of "receiving improper personal benefits." While this is a valiant attempt to keep the scandal from touching Cheney, it begs the question: Where did the rest of the $180 million go, and how could Cheney ignore the setting up of the slush fund with so much of the conglomerate's money--and its use?

The final contract for construction of the Nigeria refinery, one of the world's largest, was signed in 1999, on Cheney's watch (Cheney was CEO of Halliburton from 1995 to 2000). Bribes of the sort under investigation by the SEC and the French are illegal under statutes of the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development, of whose international conventions both the United States and France are signatories-members; and under the US Foreign Corrupt Practices Act. In disclosing the SEC investigation, Halliburton said it did not believe it had violated the FCPA, while adding, "There can be no assurance that government authorities would not conclude otherwise."

Indeed.
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Post by Simply Joel » Fri Jul 02, 2004 6:01 am

Yes, Yes, Yes

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By William F. Buckley Jr.

Conservatives pride themselves on resisting change, which is as it should be. But intelligent deference to tradition and stability can evolve into intellectual sloth and moral fanaticism, as when conservatives simply decline to look up from dogma because the effort to raise their heads and reconsider is too great.

The laws concerning marijuana aren't exactly indefensible, because practically nothing is, and the thunderers who tell us to stay the course can always find one man or woman who, having taken marijuana, moved on to severe mental disorder. But that argument, to quote myself, is on the order of saying that every rapist began by masturbating.

General rules based on individual victims are unwise. And although there is a perfectly respectable case against using marijuana, the penalties imposed on those who reject that case, or who give way to weakness of resolution, are very difficult to defend. If all our laws were paradigmatic, imagine what we would do to anyone caught lighting a cigarette, or drinking a beer. Or -- exulting in life in the paradigm -- committing adultery. Send them all to Guantanamo?

Legal practices should be informed by realities. These are enlightening in the matter of marijuana. There are approximately 700,000 marijuana-related arrests made very year. Most of these -- 87 percent -- involve nothing more than mere possession of small amounts of marijuana. This exercise in scrupulosity costs us $10 billion to $15 billion per year in direct expenditures alone. Most transgressors caught using marijuana aren't packed away to jail, but some are, and in Alabama, if you are convicted three times of marijuana possession, they'll lock you up for 15 years to life. Professor Ethan Nadelmann, of the Drug Policy Alliance, writing in National Review, estimates at 100,000 the number of Americans currently behind bars for one or another marijuana offense.

What we face is the politician's fear of endorsing any change in existing marijuana laws. You can imagine what a call for reform in those laws would do to an upward mobile political figure. Gary Johnson, as governor of New Mexico, came out in favor of legalization -- and went on to private life. George Shultz, former secretary of state, long ago called for legalization, but he was not running for office, and at his age, and with his distinctions, he is immune to slurred charges of indifference to the fate of children and humankind. But Kurt Schmoke, as mayor of Baltimore, did it, and survived a re-election challenge.

But the stodgy inertia most politicians feel is up against a creeping reality. It is that marijuana for medical relief is a movement that is attracting voters who are pretty assertive on the subject. Every state ballot initiative to legalize medical marijuana has been approved, often by wide margins.

Of course we have here collisions of federal and state authority. Federal authority technically supervenes state laws, but federal authority in the matter is being challenged on grounds of medical self-government. It simply isn't so that there are substitutes equally efficacious. Richard Brookhiser, the widely respected author and editor, has written on the subject for the New York Observer. He had a bout of cancer and found relief from chemotherapy only in marijuana -- which he consumed, and discarded after the affliction was gone.

The court has told federal enforcers that they are not to impose their way between doctors and their patients, and one bill sitting about in Congress would even deny the use of federal funds for prosecuting medical marijuana use. Critics of reform do make a pretty plausible case when they say that whatever is said about using marijuana only for medical relief masks what the advocates are really after, which is legal marijuana for whoever wants it.

That would be different from the situation today. Today we have illegal marijuana for whoever wants it. An estimated 100 million Americans have smoked marijuana at least once, the great majority abandoning its use after a few highs. But to stop using it does not close off its availability. A Boston commentator observed years ago that it is easier for an 18-year-old to get marijuana in Cambridge than to get beer. Vendors who sell beer to minors can forfeit their valuable licenses. It requires less effort for the college student to find marijuana than for a sailor to find a brothel. Still, there is the danger of arrest (as 700,000 people a year will tell you), of possible imprisonment, of blemish on one's record. The obverse of this is increased cynicism about the law.

We're not going to find someone running for president who advocates reform of those laws. What is required is a genuine republican groundswell. It is happening, but ever so gradually. Two of every five Americans, according to a 2003 Zogby poll cited by Dr. Nadelmann, believe "the government should treat marijuana more or less the same way it treats alcohol: It should regulate it, control it, tax it, and make it illegal only for children."

Such reforms would hugely increase the use of the drug? Why? It is de facto legal in the Netherlands, and the percentage of users there is the same as here. The Dutch do odd things, but here they teach us a lesson.
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Post by cowboyangel » Fri Jul 02, 2004 7:24 am

we wanta know if you have 2 wives now, Joel....eplaya and miss-x??????
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Post by dougaldutch » Fri Jul 02, 2004 9:10 am

Thank fuck it's the weekend !

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Post by Simply Joel » Fri Jul 02, 2004 9:15 am

What I meant to say in the above Buckly re-post... was Fuck Yeah, Fuck Yeah, Fuck Yeah!
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Post by cowboyangel » Fri Jul 02, 2004 5:16 pm

Hey happy 2cd Image July
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Post by Apollonaris Zeus » Fri Jul 02, 2004 6:26 pm

Tradition is just an illusion of permanence


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Post by Apollonaris Zeus » Fri Jul 02, 2004 6:29 pm

FUCK![color]

I though for a second that I was on the; "Politics, Everyday, All day... morning, noon and night...." thread


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Post by Wind_Borne » Fri Jul 02, 2004 9:30 pm

Simply Joel wrote:What I meant to say in the above Buckly re-post... was Fuck Yeah, Fuck Yeah, Fuck Yeah!
The most conservative people I know all agree with Buckley on this. Drug laws provide excuses for unchecked government intrusion into private life, foster huge, wasteful beauracracies, and usurp individual responsibility. All contrary to conservative values.

And my liberal friends oppose the drug laws, for the most part. Some seem a little conflicted: they trust themselves to use drugs, but they worry about the masses.

So who backs these draconian drug laws? The DEA employs a sizable portion of the U.S. population... I'm sure they want to protect their jobs. And then there are those drug screening labs that keep WalMart and OfficeMax employees in line. They need to protect their jobs, too. Lets not forget the prison industry.

Truly, subtler forces have imposed our drug laws. The current war on cigarettes echos the evolution of the drug laws. A simple vice is restricted a little here, a little there, until the vice becomes a crime. All because some zealots believe they know what is best fo everyone and cannot cotton the idea that someone, somewhere, might be having fun.

So even though I don't smoke cigarettes, I do take great pleasure every now and then in firing up a nice Partagas. Knowing it tweaks the self-appointed tobacco nannies just makes the smoke that much smoother. Fuck 'em!
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Post by Wind_Borne » Fri Jul 02, 2004 9:45 pm

And while I'm ranting...

Fuck the helmet laws. Let natural selection take its course.
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Post by cowboyangel » Fri Jul 02, 2004 10:26 pm

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...tryin for the architectural fuck
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Post by Lydia Love » Fri Jul 02, 2004 10:31 pm

huh.

looks like it's time to break out an irritating avatar again...
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...tryin for the architectural fuck


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Post by Lydia Love » Fri Jul 02, 2004 10:44 pm

The fuck is implied.

with me the fuck is *always* implied.
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Post by cowboyangel » Fri Jul 02, 2004 10:47 pm

fuck...i love you lydia!
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Post by Simply Joel » Sat Jul 03, 2004 6:13 am

There is no external fucking wilderness any longer, we can no longer move westward... maybe it is time for a little fucking introspection and internal fucking resolution...

or

Don't try this at home kids, leave it to the fucking professionals.


"Whoever we want to be"


By Alex Markels

In 1973, a year after my father committed suicide, my mother decided to reinvent our family's life. Determined to escape the pity friends and family heaped on her and to shake off the stigma of being a 36-year-old widow, she marched my two brothers and me down to Union Station in Chicago and herded us aboard a train for San Francisco. Our transformation began as soon as we saw Nebraska's cornfields give way to Colorado's Rocky Mountains. By the time we caught our first sight of the Golden Gate Bridge, our collective slate seemed all but wiped clean.

To us, California was terra incognita . Aside from an uncle who met us at the train station, we knew no one. And, more important, no one knew us. We could be whoever we wanted to be. My mom immediately decided that she would no longer be "Mike," the nickname my father had given her and, other than "Mom," the only name by which I'd ever known her. Instead, she became Marcia, her proper name, but one no one had called her since childhood. I didn't change my name, but I soon traded a hockey stick and an ice rink for a script and a stage, and joined the drama club at my middle school--something I wouldn't have been caught dead doing in my former incarnation as a Chicago street kid. When my new friends asked, as they inevitably did, what happened to my dad, I said he died of a heart attack (as my mother had told her new friends).

Our reinvention, I figured, was an outgrowth of our troubled past, but I soon discovered that re-created lives like ours were a dime a dozen in California. My new best friend's family had recently uprooted itself from Pennsylvania after a messy divorce--his mom had changed her name, too. And my mother's fresh set of friends, culled, in part, from her new job as a career counselor, was filled with tales of personal transformation: accountants turned musicians from Minneapolis, Jews turned Buddhists from Boston, straights living openly as gays from New Jersey.

Unique only in our own fiercely independent minds, we were part of a wave that brought upwards of 3 million newcomers to California in the 1970s--more than a quarter of a million people in '73 alone. Ours, in fact, was but one small ripple in a 400-year-long human tide that has washed over the nation since the Mayflower tied up at Plymouth Rock: Russian immigrants fleeing the czar; migrant farmers running from Oklahoma's dust bowl; fledgling Broadway actors bent on erasing their roots across the river in Queens. "The ability to escape the burden of the past, both collective and individual, is the central dream of the modern world," James M. Jasper writes in his book, Restless Nation: Starting Over in America. In the land where that dream is realized by someone almost every day, Jasper continues, "Americans' famous optimism comes from the confidence that you can always find a new place that is right (or at least better) for you, a place where you can start over on a better track."

Chicken feet. From the first pilgrims who came to practice their reinvented religion free from persecution to the undocumented immigrants who now trek like Moses across the Sonoran desert to an economic Promised Land, Americans new and old have always believed in the opportunity--indeed, the right--to reinvent their lives in whatever idiosyncratic ways they choose, a trait that, ironically, has come to define our commonality as Americans.

For people like Michelle Ling, it means "I get to eat chicken feet [a Chinese delicacy] when I want, where I want," the young writer recently told television journalist Bill Moyers in his documentary Becoming American: The Chinese Experience. "I get to compose my life one piece at a time--however I feel like it." Moyers says he believes Ling's proud predilection for chicken feet illustrates "the essence of the American experience. All of us feel we have the ability to compose our lives, to invent the person we want to be, and, if we want, to do it several times over."

It's an ethic the Founding Fathers embedded in the Constitution, which before they declared our right to pray and say what we like, ensured that we could declare bankruptcy and start anew without fear of going to debtors' prison. To be sure, while we like to boast that ours is the land of opportunity, it's probably more accurate to call it the land of the second chance. Walt Disney's Laugh-O-gram Films went bankrupt in 1923, long before Mickey Mouse became an American icon, and Abraham Lincoln went broke 27 years before he became president. (Honest Abe eventually paid back every dime.) "The Founding Fathers," says Harvard University law Prof. Elizabeth Warren,"believed in a culture of economic rebirth."

Indeed, in the nation's early days, perched at the edge of a vast frontier, our government-sanctioned manifest destiny encouraged us not only to put down roots most anywhere we pleased but to pick up and move somewhere else whenever we felt the urge. "An American will build a house in which to pass his old age and sell it before the roof is on," wrote Alexis de Tocqueville. "He will take up a profession and leave it, settle in one place and soon go off elsewhere with his changing desires."

For all that has changed in the 169 years since Tocqueville made that observation, he might as well have been writing about Americans today. And although our once boundless frontier has long since been subdivided into quarter-acre lots, a collection of incentives--write-offs for moving expenses, loopholes that let you sell your home tax free after just two years, corporate relocation plans, even subsidized highway construction--encourage us to keep heading for greener pastures.

Thus we continue our collective worship of the blank sheet of paper. Our literature celebrates the fresh start at every turn, from F. Scott Fitzgerald's Jimmy Gatz, who transformed himself into the great Jay Gatsby, to Jack Kerouac's Sal Paradise, who reinvented himself On the Road in a way that has become a rite of passage for young Americans. So, of course, do bulging shelves of self-help books, each title promising to help us re-create our businesses, our careers, and our bodies. (Not that the cult of self-improvement is anything new. First published in 1733, Ben Franklin's Poor Richard ' s Almanac, which spouts such proverbial advice as "Early to bed and early to rise, makes a man healthy, wealthy, and wise," was, perhaps, America's first self-help book.) And with a mass media in perpetual pursuit of the "new and improved," our celebrity heroes' commercial and artistic survival depends on their ability to remake themselves over and over again. Consider the pop star Madonna (news - web sites), whose new Re-Invention world tour mixes references to the Hebrew cabala (her religion du jour) with dance scenes of skimpily clad soldiers and women dressed in mini-burkas--all in an effort to supplant her last incarnation as a children's-book author.

Nowhere is our yearning for renewal more evident than in the ways we practice religion. While the seeds of the nation sprouted, in part, from the freedom to follow our faiths, it quickly morphed into the freedom to change religions and even create new ones. Rooted in a Protestantism that afforded each of us the democratic chance for personal communion with God, "we, more than anyone, have had the freedom to . . . find the brand of religion that fits who we want to be," says Jasper. Christian evangelicals are drawn by the promise of the ultimate comeback: to be born again. With everyone from rock stars to presidents swelling the ranks of the reborn, even those who aren't converts believe in a sort of instant karma, a chance not only to become the "new you" overnight but also to erase the "old you" with as little as a prayer or a plastic surgeon's knife. "There's this cultural notion in America now of rapid, almost traceless change that leaves no stretch marks, because whatever came before has been completely obliterated," says the satirist Harry Shearer. "Personal history becomes irrelevant." The upside, he says, "is a thriving plastic surgery industry," as well as the chance for everyone from Tammy Faye Bakker to Ahmad Chalabi to stage a comeback. But the downside is a tendency to forgive too easily and to forget too quickly. In the rush to reinvent ourselves, we may lose perspective on where we've come from--sometimes rewriting history itself.
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Post by Simply Joel » Sat Jul 03, 2004 6:15 am

Wind_Borne wrote:
Simply Joel wrote:What I meant to say in the above Buckly re-post... was Fuck Yeah, Fuck Yeah, Fuck Yeah!
The most conservative people I know all agree with Buckley on this. Drug laws provide excuses for unchecked government intrusion into private life, foster huge, wasteful beauracracies, and usurp individual responsibility. All contrary to conservative values.

And my liberal friends oppose the drug laws, for the most part. Some seem a little conflicted: they trust themselves to use drugs, but they worry about the masses.

So who backs these draconian drug laws? The DEA employs a sizable portion of the U.S. population... I'm sure they want to protect their jobs. And then there are those drug screening labs that keep WalMart and OfficeMax employees in line. They need to protect their jobs, too. Lets not forget the prison industry.

Truly, subtler forces have imposed our drug laws. The current war on cigarettes echos the evolution of the drug laws. A simple vice is restricted a little here, a little there, until the vice becomes a crime. All because some zealots believe they know what is best fo everyone and cannot cotton the idea that someone, somewhere, might be having fun.

So even though I don't smoke cigarettes, I do take great pleasure every now and then in firing up a nice Partagas. Knowing it tweaks the self-appointed tobacco nannies just makes the smoke that much smoother. Fuck 'em!
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Post by BAS » Sat Jul 03, 2004 9:42 am

As far as I can tell, it is the religious right who are imposing the drug laws..., and they are the ones who are my primary problem with the current incarnation of the Republican Party. (The problem I have with the Democrats is that they don't seem to know who they are or what they are doing..., but that could be a whole other post!)

I can see the logic in the tobacco laws with regards to second hand smoke, since that is imposing something you are doing to yourself on others, and could see rules to contain other types of smoke as well. (This is the same logic behind drunk driving laws, of course.) However, if someone is smoking in their own home, or somewhere with the consent of others, who cares? The same goes for someone taking 'shrooms or whatever. As long as they are endangering others, I consider it their own business!

Anyway, apparently under the Bush Administration, the belief "that if what someone is doing isn't hurting anyone, they should be left alone" makes you a liberal and a prossible terrorist sympathizer.

Oh shit! I forgot: FUCK!
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Post by cowboyangel » Sat Jul 03, 2004 10:18 am

There is no external fucking wilderness any longer, we can no longer move westward... maybe it is time for a little fucking introspection and internal fucking resolution...


well.....there's still Alaska.....Alaska is tremendously huge...tremendous........
there's Hawaii and there's waterworld........
interstin article for the fuck thread.......
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believe is false."- William Casey, CIA Director 1981

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