2022 Luck with tickys. How did it go?

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Re: 2022 Luck with tickys. How did it go?

Post by The Rod » Wed Mar 30, 2022 12:39 pm

yeah but fentanyl is very lethal, Burning man is only potentially lethal...
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Post by bdman » Wed Mar 30, 2022 12:41 pm

email link did not wot work. Said I was too early. Could not login into burner profile - "network error when attempting to fetch resource". went back to clicking the email. Finally got in 30 seconds later.. now, waiting as all items are already in other carts!

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Re: 2022 Luck with tickys. How did it go?

Post by Elderberry » Wed Mar 30, 2022 12:41 pm

Here's what my screen is saying now:

"All items are currently in people’s carts. Stick around! Until everything is sold items sometimes become available."

Looks like it's already sold out.
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Re: 2022 Luck with tickys. How did it go?

Post by elblueblazer » Wed Mar 30, 2022 12:43 pm

10,000 tickets were available, right? That's not even a drop in a bucket compared to how many dudebros want to go.

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Re: 2022 Luck with tickys. How did it go?

Post by The Rod » Wed Mar 30, 2022 12:47 pm

elblueblazer wrote:
Wed Mar 30, 2022 12:43 pm
10,000 tickets were available, right? That's not even a drop in a bucket compared to how many dudebros want to go.
I think about this every year, we got the dudebros and then every burner and their mom trying to "game" the system. 50,000 people vying for 10,000 tickets and half of them already have tickets but they're trying to get more "for camp". I bet if only the people who actually needed tickets tried then they would actually get some...
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Re: 2022 Luck with tickys. How did it go?

Post by Elorrum » Wed Mar 30, 2022 12:49 pm

The Rod wrote:
Wed Mar 30, 2022 12:39 pm
yeah but fentanyl is very lethal, Burning man is only potentially lethal...
Good point.

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Post by elblueblazer » Wed Mar 30, 2022 12:52 pm

should have a renegade burn outside the fence.

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Post by MoBo » Wed Mar 30, 2022 12:53 pm

Got nothing. The bots win again.
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Re: 2022 Luck with tickys. How did it go?

Post by trilobyte » Wed Mar 30, 2022 12:57 pm

The lottery in 2012 worked well. Too well, in fact. In the wake of 2011's first-ever sellout, and Glastonbury taking 2012 off, and a couple amazing videos whose release was poorly timed, surge in demand was BONKERS... they had demand for more than 10x the number of tickets available, which meant that fewer than 1 in 10 who wanted to go got a ticket. It was particularly challenging for theme camps, artists, and mutant vehicles who rely on experienced campmates and crews to build their stuff, which eventually evolved into what is today known as the Stewards sale.

It was known from the posting of the ticket info that the Main Sale was only going to have around 10K tickets plus vehicle passes. That sounds like a lot, but it is less than in the past. The pandemic has also played a role. While some could argue that after a couple years of people struggling with work, jobs, bills and more there would be less demand... you could also argue that after a couple years of no official Burning Man and public health finally getting to a place where it looks like the event can be held.... demand would be higher than ever.

As ticketing software evolves and server power increases, the unfortunate down side is that 10K tickets + vehicle passes sell through in less time than ever. Do stay tuned. STEP will be opening, and once I get the green light from the ticket team that the Ticket Transfer Tool is working, we will open up our own ticket boards. If you're able to go to burner events in your area, check them out. Aside from making friends or getting connected to a cool project, you may also hear of someone who can't go (plans change) or who may have a spare.

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Post by trilobyte » Wed Mar 30, 2022 12:59 pm

elblueblazer wrote:
Wed Mar 30, 2022 12:52 pm
should have a renegade burn outside the fence.
As in previous years, it would not likely be possible. The Bureau of Land Management typically enforces a wide exclusion zone for miles around the event site beginning several weeks before and continuing for several weeks after the event.

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Post by elblueblazer » Wed Mar 30, 2022 1:02 pm

I was just being silly. Now I really regret not going to one of the renegades. The no toilets things still bothers me.

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Post by some seeing eye » Wed Mar 30, 2022 1:03 pm

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Post by elblueblazer » Wed Mar 30, 2022 1:04 pm

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Post by elblueblazer » Wed Mar 30, 2022 1:05 pm

file that one under no shit there was a bottleneck at noon.

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Post by elblueblazer » Wed Mar 30, 2022 1:05 pm

The main sale has ended. I can go fuck myself.

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Post by Elorrum » Wed Mar 30, 2022 1:06 pm

Honestly, it’s functionally an invitation only, prove you are good enough well in advance, event now. Know someone or be someone recognized as valued. Random ticket buyers can’t be trusted to provide the stuff the event must have. The borg needs to guarantee there will be art and interactive camps, so they make sure tickets go to those providers, er participants. The lottery put holes in that guarantee, so now there are only a few tickets for those not effectively “vetted.”
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Post by bdman » Wed Mar 30, 2022 1:08 pm

Main sale has ended!

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Re: 2022 Luck with tickys. How did it go?

Post by elblueblazer » Wed Mar 30, 2022 1:18 pm

If I make it out this year. I'm going to take a shit in a tech bro's hut.

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Post by Elorrum » Wed Mar 30, 2022 1:21 pm

elblueblazer wrote: The no toilets things still bothers me.
Me too. But maybe with a fraction of $820, I can figure something out. I will be thinking about camping on playa for free whenever the BLM allows it.
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Re: 2022 Luck with tickys. How did it go?

Post by elblueblazer » Wed Mar 30, 2022 1:24 pm

Elorrum wrote:
Wed Mar 30, 2022 1:21 pm
elblueblazer wrote: The no toilets things still bothers me.
Me too. But maybe with a fraction of $820, I can figure something out. I will be thinking about camping on playa for free whenever the BLM allows it.
I refuse to drive around looking for a place to dump a shit bucket. NO THANK YOU.

I would moop before I did that. so I have to take myself out of the situation.
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Post by trilobyte » Wed Mar 30, 2022 1:24 pm

I'm sorry that you're frustrated, but that is how not just Burning Man Main Sales, but most ticket onsales have been working for many years.

When demand is more than supply, there will be people who want tickets that are unable to get them. Even with pre-registration and other measures in place to try and keep ticket resellers at bay, they go fast simply because there are many times more people who want tickets than there are available tickets. As far as I'm aware the info on number of registrations for 2022 has not been published, but on a few occasions in past years they have shared it, and registrations for the main sale have been over 100K. After years of uncertainty it could have been lower, but it can also be said that after years of no event demand for the event is higher than ever.

I keep an eye on a few different art and music festivals, and I've seen some struggle to sell their ticket supply and I've seen others sell out in record time. If you are determined to go, keep at it and stay determined. Once we get clearance from the ticket team that the Ticket Transfer Tool is available, we'll open our own ticket boards. The secure ticket exchance program (STEP) will be opening up, and if you're able to connect with other burners in your area (local or regional events and meetups), try to do that. Aside from the possibility of making some friends and connections to cool projects or camps, you may get wind of someone whose plans change or whose campmate can no longer make it.

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Re: 2022 Luck with tickys. How did it go?

Post by Elorrum » Wed Mar 30, 2022 1:39 pm

I don’t know the population cap for this year, but 10,000 available main sale tickets means that what 50-60,000 people effectively got preferrential ticket access. ? My math may be wrong, but it’s the smallest main sale I’ve seen.

I don’t think this is something other big events (who may take the responsibility of building the event infrastructure by themselves at their own expense) are doing to face such high demand. They can have a lot of random attendees. I think Burning Man could have all random attendees as well. Since the Borg sees it otherwise, make the whole event private already. Quit jerking people around.
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Post by GreyCoyote » Wed Mar 30, 2022 1:47 pm

Elorrum wrote:
Wed Mar 30, 2022 1:39 pm
I don’t know the population cap for this year, but 10,000 available main sale tickets means that what 50-60,000 people effectively got preferrential ticket access. ? My math may be wrong, but it’s the smallest main sale I’ve seen.
Your math is damn-Skippy spot-on.
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Post by KrisLaw » Wed Mar 30, 2022 1:55 pm

Depressing thats how it went… i got in queue way before the person sitting next to me in the same room (i got in queue when my iphone still said 11:59 for a couple seconds i got in so early! And she couldn’t get hers to load until 12:01 !)and yet somehow she was let through to attempt to buy tickets and i wasnt (only vehicle pass were left for her by that point)… and mine just sat on the queue screen waiting and doing its reloading thing until said it finally said nothing was left. I feel if it was actually a first come first serve queue with a “place in line” system, then this should not of been possible.

Its just my luck. Ive been trying to go for 15yrs since i first went in 2007 at the age of 21. Also in 2017 i had the opportunity to finally go again and was supposed to be going with the love of my life high school sweetheart i hadnt spent time with in a decade… but i had to cancel the week before and she went with someone else. :cry: I was trying to get 2 tickets and a vehicle pass this year so i could try to get her to go with me and make it up to her that i couldnt go in 2017. I truly have the worst luck. I bet i will never get the opportunity to go again… & most likely not with her i bet. So yeah pretty bummed today. :cry:

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Post by The Rod » Wed Mar 30, 2022 2:07 pm

4,000 in FOMO
35,000 in the Stewards Sale
10,000 Main Sale
5,000 in Ticket Aid
3,000 OMG

is approx 57,000 tickets with publicly disclosed destinations/allotments. ~ 40,000 of them are "preferential" in that someone gets to decide where they go and 17,000 were "up for grabs".

What we don't know is population cap and how many tickets are reserved for staff/volunteers... but we can guess based on the past that there will be at least 70, if not well over 80 thousand attendees. 23,000 or more tickets to be distributed internally?

Where are all the tickets???
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Post by Elorrum » Wed Mar 30, 2022 2:25 pm

I don’t know the specifics of the population cap, but in conversation with another burner, she mentioned the gate closure in 2019, and the ticket holders regulated at gate, one out one in, because the population cap was reached in the city. Her conclusion was that “all occupants” (includes law enforcement and staff not necessarily ticket holders) are counted in the population by health code. Still a fuzzy area there of how people get on playa and stay there.

Anybody need an RV delivered? This may be the new reserved tickets group.
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Post by The Rod » Wed Mar 30, 2022 2:38 pm

one more reason to kick all the cops out. more tickets and choco-tacos for the rest of us.
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Re: 2022 Luck with tickys. How did it go?

Post by Lexiburns » Wed Mar 30, 2022 2:43 pm

Thanks for the info. I'm honestly a bit surprised by the negativity of the feed. Don't get me wrong, I think it's important to share the disappointment and discuss the ticket allocations, but hopefully still remain optimistic and supportive. To be clear, I didn't secure tickets either, in fact no one I know did but I'm also guessing that demand is up significantly this year. I plan to keep hustling and staying positive and hopefully finding ways to contribute and support. Hand raised over here, hit me up!

Sending everyone good vibes and patience as we search for tickets and more importantly, re-connection! :D
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Wed Mar 30, 2022 1:24 pm
I'm sorry that you're frustrated, but that is how not just Burning Man Main Sales, but most ticket onsales have been working for many years.

When demand is more than supply, there will be people who want tickets that are unable to get them. Even with pre-registration and other measures in place to try and keep ticket resellers at bay, they go fast simply because there are many times more people who want tickets than there are available tickets. As far as I'm aware the info on number of registrations for 2022 has not been published, but on a few occasions in past years they have shared it, and registrations for the main sale have been over 100K. After years of uncertainty it could have been lower, but it can also be said that after years of no event demand for the event is higher than ever.

I keep an eye on a few different art and music festivals, and I've seen some struggle to sell their ticket supply and I've seen others sell out in record time. If you are determined to go, keep at it and stay determined. Once we get clearance from the ticket team that the Ticket Transfer Tool is available, we'll open our own ticket boards. The secure ticket exchance program (STEP) will be opening up, and if you're able to connect with other burners in your area (local or regional events and meetups), try to do that. Aside from the possibility of making some friends and connections to cool projects or camps, you may get wind of someone whose plans change or whose campmate can no longer make it.

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Post by some seeing eye » Wed Mar 30, 2022 2:50 pm

Aside from the problem with the email link it seems like it improved. Dr Yes, who used to post here, seems to have some inside information on demand over on Reddit. (I never have any inside information, just observations) Though no ticket, this motivated me to close several hundred open tabs in over 25 windows and I can clean out my cookies.
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Re: 2022 Luck with tickys. How did it go?

Post by trilobyte » Wed Mar 30, 2022 2:51 pm

Don't let the negativity get you, a lot of pent-up frustrations vent out in the heat of the moment.

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