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Post by Token » Sun Nov 03, 2024 10:32 am

The latest and greatest from The Glitterati

TL;DR - Paraphrasing Marion with a touch of cynicism :
We blew $20 million more than the gate receipts “saving the world” and being a “force for good”. We want you to pay us monthly to cover the balance so I can continue to play the visionary with my presidential-level salary and live the glamour of the San Francisco lifestyle.
“Hey man, spare some change”?

https://journal.burningman.org/2024/10/ ... rning-man/

Time to face the new reality and reorganize your priorities MM.

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Post by Jackass » Sun Nov 03, 2024 11:35 am

They need to turn it back to how things were originally done and quit with all of this excessive "outreach" horseshit... If they want to globe-trot spreading the word all the while flying, eating and lodging, they need to find another income vehicle for that venture and completely separate the finances from the event. They're creating a financial deficit of their own doing...

If you don't have money to go eat out, you don't go. That's it.
Sooner or later, it will get real strange...

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Post by ygmir » Mon Nov 04, 2024 6:18 am

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Post by ygmir » Mon Nov 04, 2024 6:22 am

Jackass wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2024 11:35 am
They need to turn it back to how things were originally done and quit with all of this excessive "outreach" horseshit... If they want to globe-trot spreading the word all the while flying, eating and lodging, they need to find another income vehicle for that venture and completely separate the finances from the event. They're creating a financial deficit of their own doing...

If you don't have money to go eat out, you don't go. That's it.
spot on.
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Post by ygmir » Mon Nov 04, 2024 6:23 am

Token wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2024 10:32 am
The latest and greatest from The Glitterati

TL;DR - Paraphrasing Marion with a touch of cynicism :
We blew $20 million more than the gate receipts “saving the world” and being a “force for good”. We want you to pay us monthly to cover the balance so I can continue to play the visionary with my presidential-level salary and live the glamour of the San Francisco lifestyle.
“Hey man, spare some change”?

https://journal.burningman.org/2024/10/news/global-news/the-future-of-burning-man/

Time to face the new reality and reorganize your priorities MM.
perfectly put Token:
yeah, I think they've gotten a little, or a lot, of the narcissistic/god complex, where "they" can "save the world", and will be worshiped for doing so. And even if they don't save the world, still want to be admired and adored for trying....
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Post by Molotov » Mon Nov 04, 2024 2:57 pm

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Post by Token » Mon Nov 04, 2024 6:07 pm

I wouldn’t be so jaded with MM’s shenanigans if they actually opened the books and showed the real data instead of the heavily obfuscated nonsense they post on their 990s.

If you look at the two $20M years when no event was held, kind-of points to where the fat really is. 1/3 of gate goes to management overhead, and that right there is a problem.

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Chief Culture Officer

I’m pretty sure this lard could be trimmed at every level of the bureaucracy.

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Post by Token » Sat Nov 09, 2024 5:28 pm

I’m a be honest and offer a heartfelt: “ Fuck NO”!

Email title: Burning Man 2025 by Heineken (PBR would have been more on point with the culture )

Friends — apologies for the subject line, but it begs the question: why not? Wouldn’t a cushy co-branding deal solve Burning Man’s money problems in a hot minute?

After all, it’s standard practice in the festival business to make a big percentage of your revenue from corporate sponsorships. Along with additional income streams such as merchandise sales, food and drink vending, and premium VIP services, it’s how festivals stay profitable despite rising production costs.
But here’s the thing: we’re not a festival. And we’re not here to make a profit. Sure, Burning Man Project is a business, but our business is culture: creating spaces for art, innovation, connection and joy, and making the potentially life-changing experience of Burning Man available to anyone who’s willing to take the ride.

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Back in the 90s when Burning Man’s early organizers were first figuring out what we wanted Burning Man to be, we used to joke about this. Who could we persuade to write us a big fat sponsor check? Home Depot? Bic lighters? Mercifully it stayed a joke, with enough cringe factor that it ended up being directly addressed in the principle of Decommodification.

As was so often the case in our history, we made a good cultural decision that was maybe not the best business decision. Would we be asking you for money right now if we had chosen otherwise? Perhaps not. But we wouldn’t be Burning Man anymore, either.
The other thing any sensible festival would do in the face of soaring costs is to jack up ticket prices, which we’re also not going to do if we can possibly help it. We are way behind the profitability curve when it comes to pricing tickets to the event, and have been for years. The actual per-person cost of producing the 2023 event was $749. Which means we are effectively losing $174 on every $575 ticket, $524 on every reduced price $225 ticket sold through the Ticket Aid Program, and the full $749 on every one of the more than 1,300 gift tickets we distribute to artists.

So what’s to be done?

I’m looking at you, Burner. Because we need your help.

In some respects, the current money challenges are predictable growing pains rooted in our transition from an event production company with a nonprofit side-hustle to an arts and culture nonprofit that also performs the annual magic trick that is Black Rock City. We are taking a cue from other cultural nonprofits, such as orchestras and theater companies, and swinging the finance needle away from ticket sales and deeper into philanthropic support now and into the future.

Thanks for helping with that.

The moment we’re in is challenging, but it’s more than a moment. The future of Burning Man as a cultural force in the world depends on our ability to keep producing Black Rock City without compromising on our principles and not going bankrupt in the process.

Whether or not Burning Man is still your thing these days, let me ask you this: do you really want to live in a world where there’s no Burning Man anymore? Or one where it’s just another festival with a $900 ticket price and a huge branded beer tent in Center Camp, next to the merch booth and the overflowing trash cans?
Surely that is a future no one wants. And speaking of the future, that’s the Burning Man theme for 2025: Tomorrow Today. I wrote it because I want us to have a future, and for us to make it real together. Because at this point in time, our future is anything but certain.

If you have the means, and if what we do together is meaningful to you, consider a gift of $749 to cover the cost of one artist’s Black Rock City ticket. Or $524 to help one person get to BRC who couldn’t afford it otherwise. Better yet, make it a monthly gift of $62 or $44 to achieve the same results.

Honestly, your gift of any amount is going to make a difference.

Thanks for listening.


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Post by Jackass » Sat Nov 09, 2024 6:36 pm

The cush-gig speaketh...



Please help me retain this cush gig
Sooner or later, it will get real strange...

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Post by M F Bonz » Sun Nov 10, 2024 7:11 am

Well.
It’s just a camping trip to the desert.

If….You can’t save yourself.. how are you going to save the free world?

I guess that Alpha (covid) dust storm is going to blow away their tent ….contents and all. Should have tacked it down a little better. Maybe lockdown some of it in the car? Before you started burning money again.

I get the feeling they are trying to replicate some sort of mutated social media business model.

Get a little money all the time. Then if you get enough people ….then you get a lot of money all the time. For no real product to speak of.

I don’t think the draw is there anymore to support….. well to just support giving them money out of people’s monthly budgets so they can make theirs…. For what exactly?
Do we get a happy face check mark on our tickets?
Gold Burners star?

What ever happened to the virtual reality thing they did? How much was spent on that? Is….”That” not making all money back that was spent on making and maintaining it?
Who’s bright idea was that.

And with the safety risks in the world nowadays…. I don’t think I would want to be somewhere where multiple people can be a target.
Especially in the next four years.

It’s not going to be safe anywhere for anyone … in my opinion.

But that’s just me and my own risk assessment.

After the Las Vegas shooting ..I was starting to have a bad feeling about the safety of people in black rock city. I Was always glad to see the burn end with out incident,

Then Israel happened.

I still get the bad feeling with black rock city during the event. I don’t even watch the feeds anymore. Hopefully I’m wrong …but I don’t think I’m the only one thinking about this.
I’m sure it has affected sales. It’s definitely a factor they need to consider.


Year’s ago I asked a friend of mine (Barbarella) if she was interested in going to burning man. Her short answer was :
( NO. I can think of much better places and ways to spend my money.)

She was right the location and people where bump and I met her was amazing.

Cost of product wasn’t a factor. They weren’t a top heavy group. Well managed like some of the big production companies I’ve worked with.

The people who we hung out with… did the very first dome at burning man. They were doing big parties in the Bay Area at the time. I don’t think any of them go to the burn anymore. I could be wrong.


I’ll say it again:
It’s just a camping trip to the desert.
If….You can’t save yourself.. how are you going to save the free world?

I’ve been camping and playing in deserts since the mid 1970’s.
Been there done that. For me
Black Rock has lost its charm, sparkle and the people who made it something spectacular.

Maybe they can find a way.
With the new group of spectators looking for entertainment.
Unfortunately it’s been my experience spectators don’t volunteer. And current BRC model only works with volunteers.

It seems like they’re on a narrow path to get there.

If they stop wasting their money and resources. Get back to basics.
They may get past this.

Without a course change.
Highly unlikely.
Bwaaahahaha….. no.

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Post by Sporkster » Sun Nov 17, 2024 11:14 am

BMAAS. So appropos

Finally had to unsubscribe to The Jack Rabbit.
More begging, instead of looking at focusing on their financial management.
M F Bonz wrote:
Sun Nov 10, 2024 7:11 am

If….You can’t save yourself.. how are you going to save the free world?

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Post by Elorrum » Fri Nov 22, 2024 3:46 pm

Jackass wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2024 6:36 pm
The cush-gig speaketh...



Please help me retain this cush gig
That’s it. Reality distorted. Free thinking artists and master level dilly dalliers, got confused by money, and thought they were also billionaire elite. It’s a pricey life and now they are elite party planners, who were never that good at business.

When all the participants fucking brought it from home, and were a willing volunteer labor force, how come they weren’t satisfied with THAT magical blunder into an income stream? Eh… not for me at this price point. I hear you can camp in the desert for free.
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