Snark, is that really something burners take pride in?

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Re: Snark, is that really something burners take pride in?

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Post by Simon of the Playa » Sat Sep 06, 2014 8:04 am

I like snark meat.


More flavor.
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Post by jneilvindy » Sat Sep 06, 2014 10:50 am

I actually noticed on the playa a complete absence of snark!

I'm so used to snark in my life, from friends calling each other out with snark to coworkers who snark on our client's all day long behind their backs.

Not once during my entire week at the burn do I remember hearing a mean cutting remark said behind someone's back, let alone to their face or in a way they could hear.

It was very eye-opening and refreshing to see people just being nice to each other.

I'm doing my best to bring that home with me and have put a few friends on snark notice since I got back. We'll see how it goes.

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Post by Simon of the Playa » Sat Sep 06, 2014 11:35 am

Snark is playful.

And meant to be.


It does not have a negative connotation to me.


Maybe its an east coast thing, but a playa WITHOUT snark is a playa i dont want to be on.
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Post by Lonesomebri » Sat Sep 06, 2014 12:49 pm

jneilvindy wrote:Not once during my entire week...
It was very eye-opening and refreshing to see people just being nice to each other.
You hang out with the wrong crowd.
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Post by Eric » Sat Sep 06, 2014 1:27 pm

Simon of the Playa wrote:Snark is playful.

And meant to be.

It does not have a negative connotation to me.

Maybe its an east coast thing, but a playa WITHOUT snark is a playa i dont want to be on.
This.
The people in both my camps snark at each-other, lots (and we're almost all West Coasters) - my Burn would be a very boring place if everyone was walking around on eggshells of politeness. The paper we publish is full of snark, and that isn't something we "put on", that's who we are - just like the bar I help tend Loves You Drunk, but is a "fuck yr Burn" kind of place as well.
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Post by lucky420 » Sat Sep 06, 2014 1:43 pm

I agree with the 3 awesome guys above me. Now fuck off :lol:

And I will say this to your face either on playa or not. But it is said with a wry sense of love, kinda
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Post by kiboy » Mon Sep 08, 2014 1:57 am

For everything there is a season. AND IT'S SNARK SEASON FUCKERS!

I don't ever make it through a day without it. Life is just too stoopid to not comment on it.

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Post by Lonesomebri » Wed Sep 10, 2014 10:12 pm

I still find it so playa surrealish that the OP here ended up sharing a camp with me......almost as if fate itself was being snarkish.

And another newbie confessed in camp that they did not get snark either, people being openly surly and rude to each other. This was before the Official Playa Open Fart Day. They went on to explain that they had been raised exposed to much culture….. In other words, casually insulting all our upbringing, in a nice polite way without being aware of it, but snark was beyond him. This explains why people who don’t get snark have to see it as insulting and evil. The camp boss eventually laughingly told him to fuck off, and I believe this, along with the spaghetti taco offered next door with the admission of an ass slap with a riding crop, made the newbie appreciate snark alittle bit more.

For me, snark is an extension of my religious beliefs, where Coyote, the Trickster, is screwing around with all of us. As I’ve said before, the howling desert wind blowing away my best made plans, no matter how hip and chill I am, is snark to me. And in that vein, the greatest, most horrible manifestation of snark out on the play is at The Temple. What could be more snarkish than; “here is someone to love and who loves you and you can invest your soul in, now they are dead, gone forever.” Ba-zinga! Or;” I love you still, even though you destroyed the entire family”. The snark an addiction plays on some victim... And on and on. What does “Fuck Cancer” mean? It isn’t written as a request for more research funding, it’s snarkish, the writer wants to take cancer out in some back alley and kick it’s fucking ass because it fucked with their friend. Looking around the Temple for any length of time and I get the feeling Life is one huge snark fest. The people who really can’t understand snark, don’t get life, it's ebbs and flows,give and takes, blood and misery. They are used to, maybe believe, that life only offers blessings, affirmations and positive assurances. Sometimes life isn’t all sweet and forever afters. It can be more snark filled than even eplaya.
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Post by kiboy » Thu Sep 11, 2014 8:58 am

yep

and really well articulated. :P

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Post by Eric » Thu Sep 11, 2014 2:06 pm

Lonesomebri wrote:Looking around the Temple for any length of time and I get the feeling Life is one huge snark fest. The people who really can’t understand snark, don’t get life, it's ebbs and flows,give and takes, blood and misery. They are used to, maybe believe, that life only offers blessings, affirmations and positive assurances. Sometimes life isn't all sweet and forever afters. It can be more snark filled than even eplaya.
This is a perfect description.
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Post by theCryptofishist » Fri Sep 12, 2014 12:24 pm

Lonesomebri wrote:And another newbie confessed in camp that they did not get snark either, people being openly surly and rude to each other. This was before the Official Playa Open Fart Day. They went on to explain that they had been raised exposed to much culture….. In other words, casually insulting all our upbringing, in a nice polite way without being aware of it, but snark was beyond him.
You know, my upbringing involved a certain amount of culture, too. Heck my mother kept me out of first grade one day so we could go to the museum and see the van Gogh, so I think we can say there's a bit of Culture Vulture in my upbringing.

My mother was a big Oscar Wilde fan. So, I'm snark-challenged as a result.

(Did I insult anyone's upbringing?)
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Post by Lonesomebri » Fri Sep 12, 2014 12:31 pm

theCryptofishist wrote:(Did I insult anyone's upbringing?)
Keep trying, practice makes perfect.
My mom once kept me out of the first grade also because of van go, so there....well....it was more me pissing my pants on the way to school in the station wagon, but same difference.
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Post by kiboy » Fri Sep 12, 2014 4:43 pm

Lonesomebri wrote:I still find it so playa surrealish that the OP here ended up sharing a camp with me......almost as if fate itself was being snarkish.


And in that vein, the greatest, most horrible manifestation of snark out on the play is at The Temple. What could be more snarkish than; “here is someone to love and who loves you and you can invest your soul in, now they are dead, gone forever.” Ba-zinga! Or;” I love you still, even though you destroyed the entire family”. The snark an addiction plays on some victim... And on and on. What does “Fuck Cancer” mean? It isn’t written as a request for more research funding, it’s snarkish, the writer wants to take cancer out in some back alley and kick it’s fucking ass because it fucked with their friend. Looking around the Temple for any length of time and I get the feeling Life is one huge snark fest. The people who really can’t understand snark, don’t get life, it's ebbs and flows,give and takes, blood and misery. They are used to, maybe believe, that life only offers blessings, affirmations and positive assurances. Sometimes life isn’t all sweet and forever afters. It can be more snark filled than even eplaya.
Been thinking a lot about this. It is death that informs snark and gives it power. ?

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Post by Oldguy » Fri Sep 12, 2014 9:12 pm

Naw, that's the snarklepony's job.

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Post by theCryptofishist » Fri Sep 12, 2014 9:23 pm

It seems to me that the burner population is disproportionately composed of wise-asses. The kids that didn't really fit in, because they were reading strange books, making strange art, having strange thoughts. And one of the ways that people like that cope is by joking about it.
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Post by ^Rhino! » Fri Sep 12, 2014 10:52 pm

Crypto, indeed we may have a large populace of wise-asses, but no more so than in the default. It's just that the quality of our tomfoolery outshines most if not all of the hurtful bullshit that they call snark in the default but which is actually insulting sarcasm. We know the difference.
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Post by goathead » Sun Sep 14, 2014 11:32 pm

if I am being polite to you, duck and cover, use excess lube, your about to get fucked hard.

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Post by gaminwench » Sun Sep 14, 2014 11:50 pm

please. fuck me hard. :twisted: 8) :mrgreen:
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Post by goathead » Mon Sep 15, 2014 1:32 am

snicker

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Post by Eric » Mon Sep 15, 2014 2:07 am

goathead wrote:if I am being polite to you, duck and cover, use excess lube, your about to get fucked hard.
One of my friends has said that you can tell when I don't like someone: I'm extremely polite to them. 90% of the time, it's true.
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Post by graidawg » Mon Sep 15, 2014 2:13 am

Eric wrote:
goathead wrote:if I am being polite to you, duck and cover, use excess lube, your about to get fucked hard.
One of my friends has said that you can tell when I don't like someone: I'm extremely polite to them. 90% of the time, it's true.

but your always nice to me.....




oh. :shock:
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Post by goathead » Mon Sep 15, 2014 2:20 am

you talking to Eric or me, you fucking pirate?

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Post by Zumaria » Wed Sep 17, 2014 12:26 pm

Lonesomebri wrote:I still find it so playa surrealish that the OP here ended up sharing a camp with me......almost as if fate itself was being snarkish.
That's why my mom raised me to be nice to everybody :P "You never know who will be your boss someday" ....

Or rather... you never know who you'll be sharing a camp with someday! LOL

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Post by RedHeaven » Wed Sep 17, 2014 12:31 pm

No snark at burning man? What kool aid bowl are you swimming in? :mrgreen:

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Post by Lonesomebri » Wed Sep 17, 2014 12:45 pm

My mom always said, if you can't take the heat.......

Snark is being nice. Saying it isn't is just plain mean. Why are all the non-snarky people being so mean?

This is why I tell everyone up front to fuck off, because once they become my boss, I won't be allowed to.

Pretty impressive Zoom, what is it now, like 5 pages of discussion on whether snark is something burners take pride in. What are your findings?
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Post by tatonka » Wed Sep 17, 2014 5:16 pm

If your friends arnt makin fun of ya , they may not be your real friends ")
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Post by Lonesomebri » Wed Sep 17, 2014 6:07 pm

I used to volunteer in Kauai, a dozen upper middle class retired folks working with a handful of local guys planting endangered plants in the jungle. One day a couple of the local dudes called me over and said they heard a wild pig up in the woods, I should go check it out. Well, another one of them was up hiding in the woods making pigs sounds, this was all a ruse pulled on me, not any of the other volunteers.

I carry it as a badge of honor to this day.
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Post by ^Rhino! » Wed Sep 17, 2014 8:17 pm

Lonesomebri wrote:I used to volunteer in Kauai, a dozen upper middle class retired folks working with a handful of local guys planting endangered plants in the jungle. One day a couple of the local dudes called me over and said they heard a wild pig up in the woods, I should go check it out. Well, another one of them was up hiding in the woods making pigs sounds, this was all a ruse pulled on me, not any of the other volunteers.

I carry it as a badge of honor to this day.
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I asked him, "Well, Chad, did you ever get to ride along in the patrol car when you were growing up?"

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