Fat SAM wrote:Marion makes it quite clear in the article to whom Burning Man belongs...
farhad667 wrote:The guy who wrote it, Chris Taylor, is a 7 time burner according to his bi-line after the article, but he got the ticket prices completely wrong in the article (i.e. $250 in January and $400 at the door... whereas it's $198 in January and $280 at the door).
melo wrote:I didn't enter this conversation to try to influence you folks, at least not anymore than you entered it to influence people.
melo wrote:Why should they (cleantech companies) deprive customers of their products in order to bring or donate them to Burning Man?
melo wrote:My daughter's an artist and a dedicated Burner. Yes, I've been to Burning Man. No, I do not pretend to understand this many-legged beast. But having spent a decade in a Zen community, I'm not a fan of rigid adherence to even the finest of philosophies.
melo wrote:And having had to make a living for my family in the corporate world, I'm pretty sure there is room at the edges to use the machine without getting gobbled up by it.
melo wrote:I don't claim that the process doesn't change me, you, Burning Man or whoever plays in the middle. But we own our own souls. I doubt that Burning Man's soul is so fragile, precisely because of people like you who question everything. I'm a fan of questioning.
(Ok, yes, I'm a Buddhist and yes, there's no such thing as a soul but, hey, you know what I mean).
melo wrote:I didn't join this thread to be preaching. I'm just standing up for my own integrity and that of my firm (I can't be quite as sure about all of our clients but on the whole they're pretty good or they'd choose a slicker PR agency). I'm perfectly willing to engage in conversation and listen to what any of you have to say.
melo wrote:By the way, I have nothing to do with the pavilion, though I hope letting BMorg use my name has helped stimulate proposals. I've done a lot of intros to companies who will be donating or loaning technology, such as the new LED event lighting. My clients and friends are mostly doing installations, like the AmoSphere dome (a glowing earth hemisphere on the playa), a solar carport that will become a glowing tree at night, a biocrude-from-algae demo, some independent films, etc. Some of the scientists will be hanging in our theme camp, the Clean Green Machine, where they will talk with anyone who bothers to seek out our outer-ring location.
melo wrote:No PP slides, no logos, just a bunch of brains who have dedicated their lives to renewable energy. None of them have gotten rich yet but I certainly hope they will.
Bob wrote:They still let you people do theme camps, after all.
Bob wrote:Bullshit. In eight years of doing DPW I didn't have a fucking ethos. That's for people in the SF office, the press, and you, apparently.
melo wrote: Anyway, I wish I'd spent more time making something beautiful than reading this thread. Signing off.
Saturnine0 wrote:The green theme does go hand in hand with a lot of the marketing right now... But what about when the theme is something weird next year?
Even if the corp presence doesn't suck this year do you really think it'll be back next year when the theme is primates?
melo wrote:Remember that some guy fucking a chimpanzee is what started the AIDS epidemic.
I'm more than a little overwhelmed with the commitments I've made to take these scientist and entrepreneur virgins to the Playa and I deeply hope they aren't insulted for their efforts.
DaBomb wrote:Fat SAM wrote:Marion makes it quite clear in the article to whom Burning Man belongs...
A direct quote from Maid Marian:
"Burning Man is more than just an event in the desert. We are all members of a greater community. It takes a great deal of work and collective coordination to bring Burning Man to fruition each year. Your role as artist, theme camp creator, pre-event or onsite volunteer, ranger or musician is critical to creating a safe, expressive and commerce-free community."
DaBomb wrote:2) Burning Man is theirs (the LLC), mine and ours.
itwazed wrote:Ive been waiting for a "donkey fucking" theme for years..Im so in...
And, yes, you guessed it, I'm Melody Haller from Antenna Group. We got into all this because Burning Man asked us to help get the cleantech community interested, not because it serves our best interest.
Anyway, see you on the Playa. If you're not interested in the whole cleantech thing, don't bother to visit the pavilion. The playa is a big place. There's room for everybody to have the Burning Man they want to have.
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