Do you know what makes BM possible?

Share your views on the policies, philosophies, and spirit of Burning Man.

How do you feel about this?

Poll ended at Wed Aug 15, 2007 2:19 pm

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Do you know what makes BM possible?

Post by eeyore » Mon Jul 16, 2007 2:19 pm

Do people at BM know what makes BM possible? I'm talking about the power of American money and power that allows hedonism, its colonial history of the Pacific - where fire spinning/performance originally comes from, or the irony of building and burning a shrine at a place people don't live because the shrine in many Asian countries represents the memory and history of the community and the place in which it resides.

People talk about BM as if it was some kind of "counterculture," but to me it epitomizes mainstream American culture that turns a blind eye to its own political context in the name of "spirituality" and "religion". It might be counterculture in the sense that it is about art, but BM art is based on American power/money, colonial history, and ignorance towards other cultures that reproduce the very mainstream American culture that it tries to critique (but ultimately cannot).

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Post by Isotopia » Mon Jul 16, 2007 2:36 pm

So, was there a point you wanted to make with your post?

If so, would you mind making it? I'm trying to limit my reading to poorly drafted opinions to 5 minutes a day.

Oh, and the 'colonial history' blurb is a particularly ridiculous assertion.

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Post by mdmf007 » Mon Jul 16, 2007 2:43 pm

eeyore -

Your post is aimless. Do I know what Makes BM possible? Fire spinners in the pacific, and american currency?

Makes as much sense as attributing it to the underground music and DJ Club spinners of which there are more than the spinners of the Pacific and as much sense as this senseless post

later
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Post by capjbadger » Mon Jul 16, 2007 3:21 pm

It's the end of the world.. Here I go agreeing with Iso again.. ;)

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Post by helitack » Mon Jul 16, 2007 3:35 pm

...Capitalism makes burning man possible...
Actively helping President Trump build the wall

Winning hearts and minds in lovely TexMexistan...

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Post by gyre » Tue Jul 17, 2007 12:15 am

Suspension of disbelief?
Wishful thinking?
"Everything is more wonderful when you do it with a car, don't you think?"
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It would be a shame if I had to resort to self-deception to preserve my faith in objective reality.

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Post by Ugly Dougly » Tue Jul 17, 2007 9:58 am

If we were a truly tribal society, we'd still be doing this.

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Post by mdmf007 » Tue Jul 17, 2007 3:50 pm

I vote for Pixie dust, and fluffy things
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Post by notonmysofa » Tue Jul 17, 2007 5:39 pm

Do people at BM know what makes BM possible?

Boredom and matches.

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Post by Apollonaris Zeus » Tue Jul 17, 2007 7:34 pm

The DEVIL!!!!

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Post by mdmf007 » Tue Jul 17, 2007 8:31 pm

Haddes?
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Post by Archantael » Tue Jul 17, 2007 9:00 pm

Bacon!

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Post by LeChatNoir » Tue Jul 17, 2007 9:12 pm

Isn't it all sponsored by PBR?
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Post by Me2 » Tue Jul 17, 2007 9:45 pm

an open mind
Consider that, all hatred driven hence,
The soul recovers radical innocence

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Post by dana » Tue Jul 17, 2007 11:36 pm

Lots of fiber makes my BM possible.

I can't see how any of that other stuff would help at all.

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Post by theCryptofishist » Wed Jul 18, 2007 9:56 am

Duct tape and WD-40.

Any more really stupid questions ou wanna ask?
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Post by gaminwench » Wed Jul 18, 2007 10:37 am

FISHY!!! YEA!!!!Wisdom and wit return to the e-playa - boy, you were missed, darlin!

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Post by bmix » Wed Jul 18, 2007 10:53 am

Burning Man is made possible each year by the gay Martians. We've been building landing strips for 'em for years.


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Post by Ugly Dougly » Wed Jul 18, 2007 11:01 am

notonmysofa wrote:Do people at BM know what makes BM possible?

Boredom and matches.
Hurrah for the post of the day!

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Post by notonmysofa » Wed Jul 18, 2007 12:54 pm

...and zip-ties. Definitely zip-ties.

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Post by mojo » Wed Jul 18, 2007 1:06 pm

Eeyore, I have no idea what your first paragraph means. The beginning, middle and end of the second sentence don't seem to have any relationship to one another. Please give another try at explaining your point.

And if your post was written at the bitter end of a 3 day hallucinogenic bender, then no harm, no foul. But otherwise, it's a bit as if you were speaking a different language - maybe you are so deep in thought you are not communicating pertinent parts of that thought.

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Post by gyre » Wed Jul 18, 2007 1:07 pm

A can-do attitude that borders on psychotic delusion.

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Post by Isotopia » Wed Jul 18, 2007 1:10 pm

I gotta second the zip-ties vote.

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Post by AntiM » Wed Jul 18, 2007 1:12 pm

Mastercard. With an occasional shot of Visa and AmEx.

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Post by trypical » Wed Jul 18, 2007 1:17 pm

bored freaks with matches?

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Post by Burp! » Wed Jul 18, 2007 7:20 pm

What about going and just having a great time? I started going to BM because it was just something different to do, that wasn't anything like anything else. The fact that it had this whole community/tribal thing going was just a plus. Then I guess I became protective of it, aka I wanted it to continue like the way I remembered it. The whole $$$ thing is simply the means to the end I felt. We fight the business side because we know it can end this all someday, maybe.

Here's a question, let me know your thoughts on this, just curious.

I know of a camp that is planning on hiring a moving company to move there stuff from reno to the playa. Turns out that financially it saves them $300+ rather than getting a truck and hauling the stuff themselves. When I heard about this, it struck me in two ways, this is both so right and so wrong, almost a paradox. I feel this is at the heart what burning man is about and again what is going to bring it down. I can't decide if I hate the idea or love it. You?

T.

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Post by Trixy » Sat Aug 04, 2007 8:40 am

Q. Do you know what makes BM possible?

A. Jesus................, yes, baby Jesus. Isn't it all a really big "camp meeting", with the burning of a perfect sacrificial lamb, on the alter, burn't to forgive our sins?

Aren't we just a bunch of right wing christians serving our lord?

Or........................is it just a collection of people, out in the desert, with enough alcohol and drugs to keep us blinded for a week?

Is BM really just a way to escape our personal realities?

"Oh,,,,,, I know this one, pick me, pick me!" "It's the BLM that makes BM possible, for without them we would be nothing!"
Chillax, dude.

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Post by Lassen Forge » Sat Aug 04, 2007 11:45 am

And lo, on the 7th day, the minions walked upon the open expanse of alkali, and there did they see, rising out of the firm cement a structure, built in the shape of an ethereal being, and to that being did they bring gifts of highly explosive and flammable shit, and on the edge of the abyss of excitement, whence all the residents of Bl-ack-rock-cit-yia did to gather in a circle, did to ignite and to, lo, detonate said explosives, to bring the ashes of the structure to the ground, yea, to begat in another year...

Now it's time for a hymn... page 2 in your Black Rock Gazette... How Great Thy Hatt...



IT'S A FUCKING CAMPING TRIP. Yeesh. People that put so much into something that ain;t there make me fucking LAUGH!!!

Have nice doom...
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Post by gyre » Sat Aug 04, 2007 11:50 am

Yet somehow you always manage to make it out there anyway, don't you?

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Post by Lassen Forge » Sat Aug 04, 2007 11:52 am

Who... me??? I work there. I ain't got much choice. Well, I do... Choice. What a concept. Maybe I won't go. THEN what ya gonna do? heh heh heh...

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