This may be a stupid question...

bluesbob · Post by **bluesbob** » Sun Jun 27, 2010 7:58 am

I smoke.

Whenever I go hiking, camping, backpacking...I "field strip" my cigarette butts...squeeze off the burning end and any leftover tobacco...and then put the filters in my pocket to throw away later.

If I do this on the playa is it considered moop?

Post by **Elderberry** » Sun Jun 27, 2010 8:16 am

Yes.

JK

ygmir · Post by **ygmir** » Sun Jun 27, 2010 8:33 am

seconding JK again.........you are so fast and prescient..........I feel just a shadow........like an intellectual ramora........

gaminwench · Post by **gaminwench** » Sun Jun 27, 2010 9:17 am

Carry a portable ashtray with you... altoids tin, film canister... decorate as desired... I always bring extras to gift to smokers along the way...

Orchid · Post by **Orchid** » Sun Jun 27, 2010 9:26 am

Yes, an altoids tin is perfect for when you're out & about.
Bring an empty metal coffee can with a lid to keep at your camp to dump the butts in. I like to cut a small hole in the lid and use it as an ashtray too. When you're breaking camp, just put a piece of duct tape over the hole and you're ready to go.

bluesbob · Post by **bluesbob** » Sun Jun 27, 2010 9:32 am

Thanks everyone. I have a couple little butt containers, I'll carry one in the basket on my bike.

FIGJAM · Post by **FIGJAM** » Sun Jun 27, 2010 9:37 am

Im useing an empty paint can with a 2" hole in the lid cause I like the handle.

Dr. Pyro · Post by **Dr. Pyro** » Sun Jun 27, 2010 2:21 pm

I have to hand it to you Bluebob, you certainly do know a stupid question when you ask one.

Post by **Elderberry** » Mon Jun 28, 2010 9:26 am

ygmir wrote:seconding JK again.........you are so fast and prescient..........I feel just a shadow........like an intellectual ramora........

LOLOLOL

I'm really hoping we can find the time to sit and chat awhile on the playa...maybe over a beer at goat head's beer tasting?

capjbadger · Post by **capjbadger** » Mon Jun 28, 2010 3:06 pm

bluesbob wrote:I smoke.

Whenever I go hiking, camping, backpacking...I "field strip" my cigarette butts...squeeze off the burning end and any leftover tobacco...and then put the filters in my pocket to throw away later.

If I do this on the playa is it considered moop?

It's easy. If it wasn't there when you got there, it's MOOP.

-Badger

misfit · Post by **misfit** » Mon Jun 28, 2010 3:17 pm

>>>>If I do this on the playa is it considered moop?<<<<

no. its perfectly OK to field strip on the playa, as long as no paper or butt hit the ground.

capjbadger · Post by **capjbadger** » Mon Jun 28, 2010 3:20 pm

misfit wrote:>>>>If I do this on the playa is it considered moop?<<<<

no. its perfectly OK to field strip on the playa, as long as no paper or butt hit the ground.

Umm... where the fuck did you get a stupid idea like that? Last I checked tobacco doesn't exist on the playa until people bring it in. It's MOOP.

-Badger

misfit · Post by **misfit** » Mon Jun 28, 2010 3:27 pm

neither does the dick cheese you bring in, but you still spread it all over the playa. a couple sprigs of tabacco does not impail the playa surface. you have noticed the small towns that border black rock.?..... have you ever seen the man burn, that is not cosmic ash and not natural to the playa. so what is your overly sterile point.??....

misfit · Post by **misfit** » Mon Jun 28, 2010 3:36 pm

>>>>Last I checked tobacco doesn't exist on the playa until people bring it in. It's MOOP. <<<<

neither do you my friend, until you drive onto the playa. so you are MOOP.

capjbadger · Post by **capjbadger** » Mon Jun 28, 2010 3:38 pm

misfit wrote:neither does the dick cheese you bring in, but you still spread it all over the playa. a couple sprigs of tabacco does not impail the playa surface. you have noticed the small towns that border black rock.?..... have you ever seen the man burn, that is not cosmic ash and not natural to the playa. so what is your overly sterile point.??....

You're wrong on so many levels it's just pathetic.

"Oh it's just a little bit. It doesn't matter."
Selfish little shit.

Dick cheese? Really? Is that the best you can do to cover for your lame and completely incorrect "advice"?

-Badger

misfit · Post by **misfit** » Mon Jun 28, 2010 3:51 pm

>>>>You're wrong on so many levels it's just pathetic.<<<<

point out my pathetic levels of wrongness.
30k people shed alot of hair during their visit to playa,,, should everyone shave their head.?
you are whats known as a playa dick, trying to make the visitors to our city paranoid, when just a little education is needed.

capjbadger · Post by **capjbadger** » Mon Jun 28, 2010 4:12 pm

misfit wrote:>>>>Last I checked tobacco doesn't exist on the playa until people bring it in. It's MOOP. <<<<

neither do you my friend, until you drive onto the playa. so you are MOOP.

Yes, I am MOOP, thus I pick myself up and pack myself out when I leave.

-Badger

Jackass · Post by **Jackass** » Mon Jun 28, 2010 4:15 pm

I thought "field striping" was acceptable, thats how I roll. One guy tried to yell at me til he saw that the butt was still in hand. What do I know??

No paper no butt just a tiny bit of tobacco stuck to the cherry, which usual burns up anyway. Not even forensics will find that shit. I do pick up alot of other peoples butts and debris though.

capjbadger · Post by **capjbadger** » Mon Jun 28, 2010 4:18 pm

misfit wrote:>>>>You're wrong on so many levels it's just pathetic.<<<<

point out my pathetic levels of wrongness.
30k people shed alot of hair during their visit to playa,,, should everyone shave their head.?
you are whats known as a playa dick, trying to make the visitors to our city paranoid, when just a little education is needed.

Sure, I'll just have those 30k people dump their leftover tobacco in your camp and see how you like it. Just because it's a "little bit" doesn't mean is dissapears soon as it's out of your sight. That sort of short-sighted crap thinking is why there is a floating dump of plastics in the middle of the Pacific gyre roughly the size of the continental United States.

Yes, people shed, shit happens, etc. But that doesn't give you an excuse to make things worse just because you're lazy.

-Badger

capjbadger · Post by **capjbadger** » Mon Jun 28, 2010 4:21 pm

Jackass wrote:I thought "field striping" was acceptable, thats how I roll. One guy tried to yell at me til he saw that the butt was still in hand. What do I know??

No paper no butt just a tiny bit of tobacco stuck to the cherry, which usual burns up anyway. Not even forensics will find that shit. I do pick up alot of other peoples butts and debris though.

Agreed it doesn't added up to much in the grand scheme of things, but every little bit counts. No need to make things worse when you can easily not litter.

I'm a bit curious which would break down first, the paper or the tobac. That tobacco has so many nasty chemicals put in it, I just might bet on the paper. heh

Agreed, cig butts are just nasty.

-Badger

Jackass · Post by **Jackass** » Mon Jun 28, 2010 4:27 pm

capjbadger wrote: Sure, I'll just have those 30k people dump their leftover tobacco in your camp and see how you like it. Just because it's a "little bit" doesn't mean is dissapears soon as it's out of your sight. That sort of short-sighted crap thinking is why there is a floating dump of plastics in the middle of the Pacific gyre roughly the size of the continental United States.

Yes, people shed, shit happens, etc. But that doesn't give you an excuse to make things worse just because you're lazy.

-Badger

You could re-roll that and market it as "burners blend", bet that shit would sell like hot cakes!

capjbadger · Post by **capjbadger** » Mon Jun 28, 2010 4:44 pm

Jackass wrote:
capjbadger wrote: Sure, I'll just have those 30k people dump their leftover tobacco in your camp and see how you like it. Just because it's a "little bit" doesn't mean is dissapears soon as it's out of your sight. That sort of short-sighted crap thinking is why there is a floating dump of plastics in the middle of the Pacific gyre roughly the size of the continental United States.

Yes, people shed, shit happens, etc. But that doesn't give you an excuse to make things worse just because you're lazy.

-Badger
You could re-roll that and market it as "burners blend", bet that shit would sell like hot cakes!

**shudder** Scary but true.

"Reclaimed Eco Tobacco! With a touch of dust for that true playa experience! Burn Smooth! (tm)" lol

-Badger

Jackass · Post by **Jackass** » Mon Jun 28, 2010 4:51 pm

Who knows what other kind of goodies would turn up in that blend...Thats what keeps 'em guessing and coming back..Heck you might even get some 2010 man in there or temple or costume fuzz, thats the beauty of it all.

Token · Post by **Token** » Mon Jun 28, 2010 5:21 pm

Do I need a special altoids tin to collect my playa boogers or can I flick them at hippies like normally do?

Cmmon, with all tha motoroil that drips out of the junk burners drive out there a bit of ash and tobacco is the least of my worries.

Educate where it counts.

capjbadger · Post by **capjbadger** » Mon Jun 28, 2010 5:35 pm

Token wrote:Do I need a special altoids tin to collect my playa boogers or can I flick them at hippies like normally do?

Cmmon, with all tha motoroil that drips out of the junk burners drive out there a bit of ash and tobacco is the least of my worries.

Educate where it counts.

Just make sure they stick to the hippie. The smear technique seems to work better than the flick. They won't wash it off, so no fear of it MOOPing.

Educate everywhere. It all counts. Is the educating "costing" you something? Is there some limited resource that requires only to educate up to a set limit and then the rest has to be bullshit false info?

The motor oil info is out there and has been for years. I just have a problem with blantently incorrect info being put out there. Just because one thing is a bit less harmful than another doesn't mean it's ok to put out false info about it. By Misfit's "logic", glitter, feathers, paint chips, sawdust, burn barrel contents, couch foam (if torn up tiny enough), grey/black water, etc are also ok to dump, because hey, it's just a little thing and there are bigger things to worry about MOOPing...

-Badger

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Mon Jun 28, 2010 8:28 pm

capjbadger wrote: I'm a bit curious which would break down first, the paper or the tobac. That tobacco has so many nasty chemicals put in it, I just might bet on the paper.

Given that the playa is so caustic, and that the pieces of both are pretty small, I'm betting on crap shoot.

Token · Post by **Token** » Mon Jun 28, 2010 8:50 pm

Here Badger, you need one of these:

capjbadger · Post by **capjbadger** » Mon Jun 28, 2010 10:11 pm

Token wrote:Here Badger, you need one of these:

Nom nom nom nom...

-Badger

FjordLynn · Post by **FjordLynn** » Sat Jul 24, 2010 3:05 pm

One of the gifts we used to give were little boxes with a lighter attached as well as a strap for carrying and inside there was a mirror that you could put out your cig on and store the butts. Unfortunately our flea market stopped carrying the boxes that we started with (the rest of the stuff we added), and we have found a good/cheap replacement.

Ke'Chara · Post by **Ke'Chara** » Tue Jul 27, 2010 6:55 pm

FjordLynn, that's a fantastic idea...

*wanders off to see how many Altoids tins are laying around for doctoring*

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