Negativity Abounds at This Years Burning Man

Share your views on the policies, philosophies, and spirit of Burning Man.

Postby MissNev » Fri Sep 05, 2003 10:31 am

My first burn was in 1997, and I have loved every burn since...with the exception of this year. I'm very saddened that this event has turned into yet another commercialized, overblown frat/sorority party. Costumes??? We don't need no stinking costumes! (just writing that phrase makes me ill.) I've always liked the burning man environment because it was the place where I could relax and be myself, not a costumed facade. I stayed in my camp for the most part, only because my ventures out were very dissapointing. My first bike ride about town on Tuesday evening, I encountered a floating bar and band. When I asked if I could get something to drink, I was told that they were serving only the camp participants because this was their maiden voyage. I, rather annoyed at this point, offered that my camp also runs a very large bar (The Liver's End), and we would gladly serve any patron who happened by. The drummer offered that I could come back later with a donation and perhaps I could get a drink. I told him that our bar and lounge, in keeping with true Burning Man tradition, was no barter, simply come in and we will gladly serve whatever you desire. I then left those shitheads and set out for other adventures.

The negativity seemed to last through to the burn of the man. The assholes standing directly behind me kept screaming things like: " This is ridiculous, what are they waiting for, burn it already!" and "They probably don't really burn anything, this is just a bunch of hype." <sigh> I miss the older days when people who mattered were prevalent.
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Postby Booker » Fri Sep 05, 2003 11:05 am

ANYONE who offers a negative comment on your stomach can answer to me


Word! For the record, Tempest is a slender, athletic, Amazon type person. I'm betting she could grab her own shovel & deal with the situation, though, if she felt moved in that direction. That yahoo doesn't know half of the risk he took!! What an idiot.

Any negativity I felt was what I brought with me. Had a great group to work with at the GBB, good folks to hang out with elsewhere. I might have chosen different actions/reactions for some I encountered, but I seemed to successfully ride past it without internalizing it.

Tell ya what, though. If you want a dose of positivity in your burn, go volunteer to greet. The energy of the people rolling in will just fuckin' fill you up, or that was my experience, at least. (Didn't hurt to be on a crew with a buncha gods & goddesses, either, nor to have Unimog show up to brighten the evening . . . )
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Postby ravenluv » Fri Sep 05, 2003 12:33 pm

Thanks to hipechk for starting this thread and to all who have contributed to it!

Thoughts I've had as a result of this forum....

We should not be afraid of the negativity. It must be dealt with in our journey to a higher positivity. Most of the negativity is born of fear or anxiety. Coming to a place like Burning Man, where we are encouraged to be ourselves, means that we will also learn something about ourselves. We may learn, for example, that we aren't as positive as we'd imagined we'd like to be.

In spite of the turmoil I felt while there - all of it coming from my personal life - I am still left with the memories of how thoroughly the universe gifted me on this journey. The weather was almost nearly superb (especially the cloud-filled Tuesday, which allowed us to set up camp in the afternoon without completely frying our bodies), our randomly 'assigned' traveling partners could not have been a better match, I ended up exactly where I wanted to be for the burn, food and other gifts came to us precisely when needed and I never felt any resistance or judgement from anyone there, no matter what my mood.

And now, through this forum, I am finding greater insight into how people interact with this event. I am heartened to hear that I am not the only one to see a profound connection between inner self and outer reality while on the playa.

It's actually likely that such a connection exists no matter where we are, but that the stress induced by normal world circumstances is enough to move us more thoroughly into the negative. Since we all generally like to see ourselves as basically positive people, the difference we see between our inner self and the outer world may seem apparent, even if it doesn't exist. This may be so because we cannot see, or are afraid to see, our own inward negativity.

Maybe...maybe not. All I know is that yesterday I went downtown to walk around in our smallish city's once-a-week-for-a-month festival and I felt clear and positive inside. Everywhere I looked, people were smiling at me. And then a remarkable moment of synchronicity occured, thus showing me what I already knew - the magic doesn't end when I leave the playa.

As for the future of this event, I've had an intuition that something is going to interrupt BM at some point, but that it will come back. That could just be my fear talking, though I find that I am not nearly as attached to BM as I once was. I love the event and think it is important, but my life can go on without it. If BM is interrupted, then it will most assuredly be due to those forces which are utterly incapable of embracing or sharing the positive within it.

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Re: Negativity Abounds at This Years Burning Man

Postby jaywalker » Fri Sep 05, 2003 12:52 pm

hipechk wrote:The night of the temple burn, usually a night of reverence, was especially disturbing. <snip> Meanwhile, a young woman with a megaphone stood behind me showering the crowd with a barrage of magnified "F@ck Off!" variances.


Hmm....wonder if that was us. Each person has there own way of dealing with things. If that was us, she was dealing with a loss from a few months ago. Someone asked nicely, and we turned it off. The assholes in the United Rentals stakebed truck that started threatening with paintballs and then throwing empty beer cans (fucking litterers), well they derseved something more.

Each deals with emotions differently. That's the experience. No group think love/hug rainbow gathering. It's about experience and raw emotion. It's more like six flags over black rock. I like to be shocked, annoyed, amazed. It's the only reason I keep going. Disturbing is fine, creepy is fine, as long as when you have enough...speak up or walk away.

I fucking hate this goofy new set-up. Then again....I'm in a fucking great, yet feisty mood.
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"Burningman..it's NOT all good"

Postby Guest » Fri Sep 05, 2003 1:36 pm

This is a saying I use half-jokingly to newbies, etc, to explain burningman. Because to me, burningman is not an attempt to create a false reality of "it's all good". Instead, it is a magnifier of reality, a celebration of life as it really is. Yes, burningman is full of love and amazingly good-hearted people, but that still doesn't change the reality that life is full of both good and bad.
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Response to MissNev.. rebound from a bad year!!

Postby Guest » Fri Sep 05, 2003 2:23 pm

Just had to reply to your post. I also have attended since 97. This was my least favorite year. This is because of both internal and external reasons. But externally speaking, I really do fear what some veterans say about the real art being lost.

I love burningman. I have told myself I will attend every year for the rest of my life. I am rather shaken by all the talk of negativity. And yes, I do dislike the gawkers who show up late just to see a big fire and "titties". I try to not hate (them), but I kinda do. Now there's my own negativity coming out.

Anyway, the obvious concensus is for the artists to "bring it back". It's up to us. Ravers have it easy: bring a DJ, a system, hopefully a visual and maybe a dome. If your system is big enough it dominates an area ruining the mood for other art. The artists who allow this to deter them need to be encouraged and supported to bring their art back. Aside from dance camps the playa and the esplanade seemed realitively "dead" to me this year (with a few wonderful exceptions). Both interactively and visually. This is why I am sad.

Also, there is so much wonderful live music out there that never makes it to the burn.. why? I'm not sure.

Another reason was given to me by the person who placed my theme camp. She said it's great to see groups hauling their camps in from Portland/Seattle/far away... because a lot of Bay Area people who used to put on wonderful theme camps are now broke. It is true, economics does effect the burn. Both cyclical economics in the local community and overall. I have gone into debt for two years now to bring my art. Next year my goal is to scale DOWN the costs but scale UP the positive impact. Think INTERACTION. Read Larry Harvey's Essay VIVA LAS XMAS (on the website) about "Social Capital", loss of community, commercialism, etc. Connecting with people is one of the greatest gifts that is given thru burningman, wether it be a briefly shared gesture of positivity, a life-long friendship, a love, a sense of community, etc.

Maybe we did have a "bad year". But, I have a strong hunch next year will naturally rebound. Most social phenomenon do follow cycles. I am already looking forward to next year with an excited feeling in my heart...

And despite the lackings this year, it was still life changing for me, for the seventh year in a row!
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Postby a2^8 » Fri Sep 05, 2003 3:06 pm

is a major reason many art projects took till thursday/friday to complete. Total lack of vols this year, not those with bmorg. Usually, all an artist has to do if more hands are needed is to go to centre camp or the vol board and ask. but this year there were very few extra hands to help. i met a lot of people who got turned away at the gate cus they weren't on the list. i needed their help.
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Re: Response to MissNev.. rebound from a bad year!!

Postby Lucifer » Fri Sep 05, 2003 8:25 pm

Arousal wrote:Anyway, the obvious concensus is for the artists to "bring it back".


That is the most profound statement I've read on the eplaya in months.

Arousal wrote:It's up to us. Ravers have it easy: bring a DJ, a system, hopefully a visual and maybe a dome. If your system is big enough it dominates an area ruining the mood for other art. The artists who allow this to deter them need to be encouraged and supported to bring their art back.


Specifically, I would encourage them to place their art out of the reach of the crowds and the sound systems. In 2004, the Golden Cafe will be operating one interactive space in the heart of the city, and another out in the desert well beyond the Temple...and we're working to coordinate an underground network of other camps who similarly aim to serve that portion of the citizenry that seeks something more than mainstream trance played loud.

Arousal wrote:Also, there is so much wonderful live music out there that never makes it to the burn.. why? I'm not sure.


Our approach to music and art was to provide an inviting space, deep in the city where consumer traffic was minimal, and to let the Black Rock community deliver what we need. Within two days of operation, our little sidewalk bistro was swathed in more live music, classical paintings, and interesting conversation than we knew what to do with.

Arousal wrote:Maybe we did have a "bad year". But, I have a strong hunch next year will naturally rebound. Most social phenomenon do follow cycles. I am already looking forward to next year with an excited feeling in my heart...


IMHO, it is up to us to make it rebound. I had a ball in 2003, but if this year was evidence of anything, it was that the BMORG has their hands full providing the basic city infrastructure, and it falls on the creative citizens of BRC to provide everything else - including the large scale interactive dynamics that make the city fun.
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Postby TestesInSac » Sat Sep 06, 2003 11:33 am

I think Lucifer has it pretty right, especially WRT us, rather than the BMorg, making things happen.

One topic of discussion among some of my campmates was the favorable comments we got about the music we played, which included some Grateful Dead, worldbeats, etc. We were very light on the electronica, and intend to make our music sexier and loungier and in general not thumpy.
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Postby Ivy » Sat Sep 06, 2003 1:16 pm

I totally agree.

I personaly found a lot of my week disappointing and filled with negativity, but when I was thinking about it on the drive home, the only thing i came up with was that if I didn't like it it, it's up to me to change it. If I don't like the vibe of the Esplanade thme camps, it's up to me to create one with a vibe I like. If I was disappointed that there wasn't enough art out on the playa, it's up to me to put something there.

I feel more inspired right now that I have in probably the past 5 years. I'm almost glad for the negative parts, that they helped steer me this way.

I really want to create art this year.

Lucifer, the Golden Cafe sounds cool.
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Postby Lydia Love » Sat Sep 06, 2003 1:20 pm

I feel more inspired right now that I have in probably the past 5 years.


I'm experiencing some of this feeling as well. And I'm actually working on some of my inspirations instead of just thinking about it (I do this too often).
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Postby cobwebbywings » Sat Sep 06, 2003 2:26 pm

I am so glad to see that others felt the negativity this year, that it wasn't just me. It's good to know that I wasn't imagining that nothing was finished for the first three days, that there was too much rude behavior and drunken energy, that the whole thing was more rave (although I am not one of those who objects to Tecno blasting all night long, as long as it's good) and less art. I had thought that it was just because this was my second year and I expected it to somehow be as perfect as my first. Having said that, I also agree that if we see Burning Man becoming something we don't enjoy, it's up to us to create the kind of experience we want. I think part of the reason there was so much that was negative this year is because too many people were expecting to sit back and be entertained, rather than participating. My friend and I were some of the many people who collided with poles in the dark, we both injured our hands. (I had a light too) My first reaction was, why don't they make those more visible for us? Now I am thinking why didn't we go around and light them up for ourselves and for others? I think the problems that many of us noticed this year are a sign that we all need to participate rather than expecting someone else to make it work for us.
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Postby Kinetic » Sat Sep 06, 2003 10:36 pm

I was warned...the second time around has a tendency to be unpleasant at BM. From stolen bikes to actually swearing back at the rudest individual I have ever met working at Playa Info, this year was rough. I brought things to give to the bars so I could get drinks and I still felt excluded. I felt the Esplanade was a big dance camp, I'll just shut up now, I could go on and on.

I had more fun after the event as I took Dragontear on to San Francisco where we tried to swim in the cold Pacific and we visited Baker Beach where it all began. Then we finished up with a stop at Moab, Utah, a climb to the top of Mount Evans in Colorado where it began snowing, and overall the week after the burn was better than BM itself.

I need time to decompress as we just got home, but I think I will go back next year. I'm still realizing the lessons and discovering the gifts that BM offered me this year. I'm also thinking of going back next year and being a Ranger...Badger and Tiara left me so inspired that I want to do it.

So yeah, it was negative for me too, but the positives still outweigh the negatives by 80 to 1.
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Postby Lydia Love » Sat Sep 06, 2003 10:43 pm

outweigh the negatives by 80 to 1.


Good.

Decompress gently, the both of ya!
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Postby PetsUntilEaten » Sat Sep 06, 2003 11:47 pm

I'm going to have to say that I had one of my best burningmans ever (despite getting some nasty 24 hour flu that almost kept me from the burn and being able to stand up all day saturday). I also had the least struggle with the changes that happen friday & saturday - but i also felt that i was able to stay more open & positive in light of the regular weirdness that arises.

This year I was emotional teflon.

Oh yeah - and I spent time day & night with the loveliest man - who I'm now missing a great deal.

Go figure.
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retrograde mercury

Postby liebling » Sun Sep 07, 2003 11:23 am

i think this applies...found on astronomyzone.com...mercury went retrograde on aug28, wont get back to normal till sept 20....gael

At several points throughout the year most of us will be bombarded with the maddening effects of Mercury in retrograde. Mercury is a planet which governs all transportation and communication issues. Mercury is not an emotional planet, but rather a highly objective, truth-seeking one. It rules intelligence, education and truth. When it is in retrograde, some of its power is held back.

When Mercury starts turning in an apparent backward motion, we will start to feel the effects of this event days or even as far as two weeks earlier. When the planet normalizes we will see the tempo of events pick up in our lives as the planet becomes "stationary" and then speeds forward.

Gemini and Virgo are signs ruled by Mercury, so if you are one of those born during those months, you will be complaining especially loudly. If you work in the industries ruled by this planet such as sales, writing, public relations, advertising, publishing, air freight, the post office or express mail, any transportation industry, from the airlines to Amtrak, you'll also be especially vulnerable to this planet's weird motions in September. (If you are a Gemini, for example, who works in publishing, it's no use calling in for a month of mental health days--you can't escape!)

What happens when Mercury retrogrades? You miss appointments, your computer equipment crashes, checks get lost, you find the car you just purchased during Mercury retrograde is a lemon. (Or, you hate your haircut, the lamp you bought shorts out, your sister hates her birthday gift.) There will be countless delays, cancellations and postponements--but know these will benefit you in the long run. Don't fight them, although your frustration level and feeling of restlessness will be hard to cope with at times.

All machinery and things with moving parts--such as computers, VCRs, camera equipment, garbage disposals, and so forth, will reveal any weak links now. It is critical that you back up your data system and be more careful and vigilant than ever. Projects will demand more time and money than anticipated this month.

In matters of the heart, if your boyfriend or girlfriend breaks up with you or says something hurtful, take a wait-and-see attitude. Since Mercury rules speech, they may not mean what you think they are saying now. Let them have some space, and wait to see if they mean in October what they said in September.

When traveling, leave early and allow for extra travel time. Have all bags double-taped closed, count your belongings, double-check addresses and reconfirm appointments. Things get lost when Mercury messes us up. Take NOTHING for granted. The sector of your chart that Mercury happens to be skating through will be effected most dramatically, so check your forecast!

Why would the Universe give us Mercury retrograde? Because to move forward it is sometimes necessary to backtrack and reconfigure our paths in life. It is important to reconsider, repair, reflect, and reconnect. Mercury forces us to slow down and fix what's broken, and in so doing, rethink things. It also gives us time to get to projects we have put on the back-burner.

Some activities are lucky or actually improve when Mercury retrogrades. You are likely to bump into old friends that you haven't seen in years. Adopted children tend to find their birth parents during Mercury retrograde periods, or people locate their long lost siblings. Prosecutors often find clues to crimes that had previously remained unsolved for years. (Although sometimes the reverse is true--there is a greater danger, or example, that police can bungle evidence during a Mercury retrograde period, for clear thinking doesn't come easy for any of us then.) Mail that went astray weeks or even years ago shows up during Mercury retrograde. Some things that were lost reappear.

Now is also a good time to dress old wounds, clean up relationships or to simply bury the hatchet. Some people have great breakthroughs in psychotherapy during a Mercury retrograde period. For salesman, it is a positive time to backtrack over previous contacts rather than call on new ones. It is a perfect time to schedule work on projects that you haven't had time to do and you've let pile up. Bring your resume or portfolio up to date, and clean out your closets. Take time to paint the house. Clear your decks.

Just try not to start new things. If you have to start a job during a Mercury retrograde period know that the nature of the job is likely to change dramatically over time. Perhaps the person you report to will leave, or your responsibilities will be very different from what you thought they would be. Or your company won't be ready to take you on, and you won't have much to do until things are reorganized. But remember, if this was a position that you tried for in the past, then you've got the vibes working for you rather than against you.

Finally, what about people born with Mercury retrograde? If you are due to give birth to a baby during this period, don't fret. The ancients felt that this aspect lends a more philosophical tone to the character. Mercury rules thinking, therefore an individual born with this aspect tends to reflect deeply over events and issues throughout their lifetimes. In this case, having this aspect could be a big plus! Your astrologer was born with Mercury retrograde--so relax!
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I noticed some negativity, but.....

Postby playa_buddha » Sun Sep 07, 2003 11:50 am

This is my sixth year at Burning Man, and I did notice a little more negativity this year than perhaps the last couple of years. I did not let it ruin my experience a bit, however. The only time it really got to me was for a couple of hours after the burn itself, when it seemed especially intense, at least for me. The burn itself wasn't as good this year as the previous five years I've attended, and not because of the failure of the right arm and the neon, but because of the amount of smoke that was rising from the pyramid that obliterated the view of the man burning. Hopefully, that will be fixed next year. (Might it have been due to the canvas?)
I know not everyone will put stock in this, but being that I own an occult store and give Tarot Readings for a living, I believe that the influence of Mars being so close, and with Mercury retrograde, even the most positive and cheerful among us might have had negativity issues to deal with.
Like other people have stated, BM is not a Rainbow gathering. Radical self-expression means accepting the negative with the positive. For a lot of people with stressfull lives, this is the one week a year that they can really cut loose. This might include some belligerance. I also think that some people might interpret some tongue-in-cheek satire as negativity or meanness. (Does anyone remember the Columbine Shooting Gallery in '99? - definitely a giant leap beyond good taste, but a scathingly effective social commentary nonetheless.)
For personal reasons, this year might have been the best year for me. For one thing, even though I went alone, the people camped around me were just awesome, and by Tuesday evening we had monikered our area at Paradox and Reality "Camp Chalupacabra" - and we became the best of friends. Thanks Keri, Tain, Ron, Eric, Sophia, Brittany, John...etc!!!
For another, this year I am doing a job that I love, despite the fact that I put in 7 day 10 hour + a day weeks at my store - it's MY business, and because of the nature of the business, I meet Burner-types every day. Because of this, I didn't feel pressured to try and pack in an entire year's worth of joy into one week at BM, running around like a chicken with it's head cut off trying to see and do everything - which is impossible anyway. I felt relaxed and I got enough sleep for once.
For every negative thing I saw, I saw or experienced a thousand positive things - and I think that's a pretty good ratio. Certainly a better ratio than the outside world.
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Wow, Liebling......

Postby playa_buddha » Sun Sep 07, 2003 11:55 am

Just to let you know, Liebling, when I started writing my post, yours was not up yet....thanks for the Mercury Retrograde in-depth! - Playa Buddha
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Re: retrograde mercury

Postby PJ » Sun Sep 07, 2003 12:03 pm

liebling wrote:...Mercury is a planet which governs all transportation and communication issues...sales, writing, public relations, advertising, publishing, air freight, the post office or express mail...You miss appointments, your computer equipment crashes, checks get lost, you find the car you just purchased during Mercury retrograde is a lemon...you hate your haircut, the lamp you bought shorts out, your sister hates her birthday gift...delays, cancellations and postponements...All machinery and things with moving parts--such as computers, VCRs, camera equipment, garbage disposals, and so forth, will reveal any weak links...Projects will demand more time and money than anticipated...your boyfriend or girlfriend breaks up with you or says something hurtful...Things get lost...the person you report to will leave...



Denizens of this board believe 100% of that, but usually they blame Republicans instead of Mercury.
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Postby Lydia Love » Sun Sep 07, 2003 12:06 pm

but usually they blame Republicans instead of Mercury.


I blame both.

And the mind-control rays of the CIA.

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Postby PJ » Sun Sep 07, 2003 12:15 pm

Lydia Love wrote:Excuse me while I find my tin-foil hat.


You took it off? You're already in their control.
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Postby liebling » Sun Sep 07, 2003 12:20 pm

yeah, i was aware of the retrograde and of the effect of mars but i ignored it. i shoulda stayed home this year rather than agree to camp with a person i already despise and think i could deal with it appropriately.

altho this was my 5th burn i was foolish enough to believe that 'nothing' could ruin my experience, even tho the same guy fucked up 2000 for me and most of our camp.

live and learn? it takes me a few hits to my heart and soul before i get the message. i am FAR too forgiving until i reach my limit. i've had my fill.

heres to next year and a better burn

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Postby Lydia Love » Sun Sep 07, 2003 12:25 pm

You took it off?


I had to get it cleaned.


You're already in their control.


Damn. So... the CIA wants people housecleaning in the nude?
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Postby PJ » Sun Sep 07, 2003 12:28 pm

Lydia Love wrote:So the CIA wants people housecleaning in the nude?



No, that's me. The CIA wants Fidel Castro to do housecleaning in the nude.
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Planets moving backwards

Postby Peace_Tolero » Sun Sep 07, 2003 2:29 pm

What happens when Mercury retrogrades?


Mars is also transiting 'backwards'.
Given Ares close proximity to Terra, perhaps the Martian stress was interpreted as 'negativity.' Maybe. Goes direct on the 27th.
YEAY !
I can hardly wait. He is a secondary ruler of my 10th house. The third time around should give me a chance to iron out some business enterprise problems. I need three tries with politics, it seems. But it only took twice to rid myself of a destructive lover. Silver linings abound. Har!

As for Mercury, the messenger, a retrograde transit can also be an opportunity. We get three chances to say...something.

Once as Mr. Wingfoot makes aspects during the first direct transit. Again as Mr. Twinkletoes backs up over our toes, then a third time as he streaks past on the way to the phonebooth or wherever.
Here's a PDF printable Ephemeris

Has anybody done a natal chart for BM yet?
What was the date of the original burn on Baker Beach?
What was the date of the official move to BRC?
Here's a theme idea.... STARS

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Postby donna christie » Sun Sep 07, 2003 2:54 pm

being back from my true home has proved to be quite difficult, yet i will always hold to my belief in my soulmates. i'm always amazed how many of you are out there. the universe is huge and we must try to make a difference. i agree. Who cares about costumes. i had no costumes this year but flowers and lust. i had a very positive time on the playa. let us turn it all around for those of us who know the truth. 8) 8)
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Maybe not so negative

Postby The Key Man » Mon Sep 15, 2003 11:12 pm

I certainly have picked up on a lot of negativity here on the e-playa but the event itself seemed pretty positive to me, though as a newbie I have no good old day memories to get nostalgic about.

Last night I went to a deco party and chatted with about 20 others who were there 2 weeks ago. They ranged from greenie to long time vet. All seemed to have had a wonderful time, I heard a lot of raves and not one complaint.

I've travelled in China a lot, overall it's gone pretty well. If on my next trip some nicked my camera, I guess it would be easy to feel like "China's lost it, the good travel days there are over, time to move on." Easy - but wrong maybe. Perhaps less of a trend, more like luck of the draw. Same with BM I suspect/hope.
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It's in the eye of the beholder

Postby babblingfreak » Mon Sep 15, 2003 11:52 pm

I have been to Burning Man four times now, not in a row. I have to say that every time has been exactly what I allowed it to be. This is what I believe I was supposed to learn to do by going to Burning Man and I finally did. I wonder what my gift will be next year.

I have noticed every year that there are people and energies I'd rather avoid, but they have their place there, just as I do, or they wouldn't be there. If nothing else, maybe its to tell someone that they need to change or adapt to the environment. To relate: When I was in college, I was fed up with my school and all the annoying people who didn't think like me, so I transfered to another school for an exchange and most people were like me. By the time I returned to my first college, I was so grateful for the "annoying people" that I nearly cried when I saw them again.

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Postby Chai Guy » Tue Sep 16, 2003 3:46 pm

I have to say that every time has been exactly what I allowed it to be.


Very well said!

I have noticed every year that there are people and energies I'd rather avoid, but they have their place there, just as I do, or they wouldn't be there. If nothing else, maybe its to tell someone that they need to change or adapt to the environment.


Exactly! In fact I rather enjoy encountering negativity on the playa and turning it around. You would be surprised how little effort it actually takes. If I'm not successful or feel the problem is beyond my control or efforts, then I simply head off in a different direction. It's a big place, with a lot of people, it's what you make of it.

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