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Post by theCryptofishist » Fri Sep 17, 2004 9:14 am

geekster wrote:Yahoos on ice?
Talk about your Disneyfication.

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Post by anticdevices » Fri Sep 17, 2004 2:07 pm

Badger wrote:BTW, given the amount of booze fueled, tit-groping, assholiness exhibited by the yahoos this year, I'm thinking the theme ought to be based on Milton's Paradise Lost.
". . . . . . Hail horrours, hail
Infernal world, and thou profoundest Hell
Receive thy new Possessor; One who brings
A mind not to be chang'd by Place or Time.
The mind is its own place, and in it self
Can make a Heav'n of Hell, a Hell of Heav'n..."
But last year's theme was based on Paradise Lost.
"Peace is despaird,
For who can think Submission? Warr then, Warr
Open or understood must be resolv'd.
He spake: and to confirm his words, out-flew
Millions of flaming swords, drawn from the thighs
Of mighty Cherubim; the sudden blaze
Far round illumin'd hell: highly they rag'd
Against the Highest, and fierce with grasped arm's
Clash'd on their sounding shields the din of war,
Hurling defiance toward the vault of Heav'n."

- Milton, Book I 660-669
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Post by theCryptofishist » Fri Sep 17, 2004 2:23 pm

I'm pushing for Urbi et Orbi To the city and to the world. And name the streets after the 7 hills of Rome. Everyone will forget them all anyway.

Or just do a back formation from the street names. If we went with: Kingdom, phylum, class, order, family, genus, species--what's the theme?

Africa, Asia, Australia, Europe, South America, North America, Antartica?

Still working on a set that starts with Pre-Cambrian as the outermost road, goes through The Mesosoic, The Modern Era and ends with The Future is Here!

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Post by diane o'thirst » Fri Sep 17, 2004 3:36 pm

The Elements:

Theme art including fountains for water, fire (gotcha covered), kites/aeolean pipes/windspinners for air, and sculptures for earth.

Streets: Esplanade, Salt, Earth/Prithivi, Metal, Mercury, Water/Apas, Wood, Antimony, Fire/Agni, Sulphur, Lightning, Air/Vayu, Æther, Akasha. Give the spoke streets alternate names for the Periodic Elements.
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Post by theCryptofishist » Fri Sep 17, 2004 3:38 pm

diane o'thirst wrote:Give the spoke streets alternate names for the Periodic Elements.
No no never. Too much of a hassle for Emergency Services to get to calls.

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Post by kikidelosfeliz » Fri Sep 17, 2004 4:02 pm

We're thinking of basing our camp on Hieronymous Bosch's Garden of Earthly Delights (credit to Shaman for that one), which just about covers everything no matter what the theme, and makes for great costumes and camp activities.

Love the "Still working on a set that starts with Pre-Cambrian as the outermost road, goes through The Mesosoic, The Modern Era and ends with The Future is Here!" idea. Tyrannosauruses in F-14s!
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Post by geekster » Fri Sep 17, 2004 5:04 pm

I kind of like the theme of that camp from 2002 where they made the documentary ...

Nothing Without You

If it is true that 50% of the community in '04 were newbies and a lot of long-time burners are complaining about the lack of a sense of community, maybe an inward focus would get us focused back on what we are there for ... each other.

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Post by shitmouse » Sat Sep 18, 2004 11:27 am

i think the perfect theme would be "DEATH". there's a lot that encompasses it. the break down of physical entity, the visuals, the reflection, the disease, etc. the phoenix.

think of all the cool 'dark' installations, costumes, etc. it could bring back some energy and very interesting art. turn the city into a funny and spooky place for a week. (mental images of Elvis fallen of pot, scooby doo, etc. -- well, maybe not scooby doo)...

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Post by Tiahaar » Sat Sep 18, 2004 10:34 pm

Boo on death, necessary though it is in the cycle of life. How about Immortality instead? There's both the light side (eternal life, Godhood etc.) and the dark side (the undead, vampires, etc.) to that.
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Post by AntiM » Sun Sep 19, 2004 5:05 am

Immortality? Oh yeah, everyone with a kilt and a sword report to Thunderdome for Highlander outtakes ...

(sorry, too many reruns last night)

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Post by Badger » Sun Sep 19, 2004 5:18 am

mmortality? Oh yeah, everyone with a kilt and a sword report to Thunderdome for Highlander outtakes ...
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Post by Discosybil » Sun Sep 19, 2004 7:41 am

I think it should be something like lost on Gilligan's Island. It would bring back ships, island attire, fish again, palm trees, dust storms would work, tiki huts. This could be a fun one where everybody is abandoned on an island (playa) and acts lost or take control. The fashion show could be alot of fun too with "this is what I looked like after my ship sank" "What's that smell" Amazing what you can make out of leaves or fruit, "Hey this island I came from only has snow" etc.

Once again, It could be fun!

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Post by kikidelosfeliz » Sun Sep 19, 2004 7:57 pm

"lost on Gilligan's Island" - already in the works as a Survivor episode.
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Post by BAS » Sun Sep 19, 2004 8:56 pm

kikidelosfeliz wrote:"lost on Gilligan's Island" - already in the works as a Survivor episode.
Now that's an episode of Suvivor I might actually be interested in watching! (Or even being on, since I am kind of built like the Skipper!) :)


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Post by AntiM » Mon Sep 20, 2004 6:59 am

Too much like TV, survivor or not. There's a new network show premiering soon, "Lost" about a plane which crashes on a desert island. Silly premise.

"Uh, Fred, wasn't it YOUR turn to pack the black box?"

Too bad the vault of heaven didn't include more Lost in Space reruns. No palm trees, less cross dressing, but way more cool explosions and alien costumes.

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Post by Simply Joel » Mon Sep 20, 2004 7:35 am

Discosybil wrote:I think it should be something like lost on Gilligan's Island. It would bring back ships, island attire, fish again, palm trees, dust storms would work, tiki huts. This could be a fun one where everybody is abandoned on an island (playa) and acts lost or take control. The fashion show could be alot of fun too with "this is what I looked like after my ship sank" "What's that smell" Amazing what you can make out of leaves or fruit, "Hey this island I came from only has snow" etc.

Once again, It could be fun!
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Post by kikidelosfeliz » Mon Sep 20, 2004 10:40 am

"Lord of the Flies?"

Hmmm, wonder what they would do at "You are that Pig" camp...
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Post by chineseobelisk » Mon Sep 20, 2004 12:53 pm

How about "When We Were Six"? yes an obvious tip o' the hat to AA Milne, but it could conjure up lots of ideas about the innocence of youth and how we reacted to stuff as wide eyed carefree children before social conditioning reared its ugly head. ('sides I'd love to visit Camp Honeypot")
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Post by theCryptofishist » Mon Sep 20, 2004 1:11 pm

Kudos to any camp that can create a "Pooh Sticks" course!

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Post by theCryptofishist » Mon Sep 20, 2004 1:13 pm

Same theme, different name "the Thousand Acre Wood"

And then there's the North Pole.





(The fishy is a little bit Eeyore at heart.)

But then we're really in for Disneyfication.

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Post by chineseobelisk » Mon Sep 20, 2004 1:33 pm

theCryptofishist wrote:Kudos to any camp that can create a "Pooh Sticks" course!
I'l take that on as my personal mission. (although the water may be a little skanky by sunday)
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Post by kikidelosfeliz » Mon Sep 20, 2004 2:21 pm

Surreal Lush bar Pooh moment: meeting guy in Tigger costume, talking, then another guy in Tigger costume comes up, says there's not room for two Tiggers on the playa. I think they went off to Thunderdome for a catfight.

Pooh sticks with no water??

Original Milne much funnier and more subversive than disneyfied version.
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20th

Post by Savior69 » Mon Sep 20, 2004 4:52 pm

Next year will be the 20th anniversary, so i'm sure it will be a grand theme.

Sad thought:

What if it was "Last Burning Man Ever, Thanks for 20 years" :(

Lets hope not

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Post by diane o'thirst » Tue Sep 21, 2004 12:06 am

Just got the word from the author of the new book, "This Is Burning Man." They had a reading at Powell's on Hawthorne in PortlandOREGON tonight.

Someone asked him, "What's the theme this year?"

He replied: "Dreams and the Unconscious."

And immediately thereafter, three people jumped up and straight out the door, wickedly inspired grins plastered all over their kissers. :twisted: :idea:
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Post by Simply Joel » Tue Sep 21, 2004 7:00 am

chineseobelisk wrote:How about "When We Were Six"? yes an obvious tip o' the hat to AA Milne, but it could conjure up lots of ideas about the innocence of youth and how we reacted to stuff as wide eyed carefree children before social conditioning reared its ugly head. ('sides I'd love to visit Camp Honeypot")
unfortunately at six, i was walking on crutches... until i was 10 or so...

additionally, i believe most people do revert to some child-like, as well as, child-ish state at burning man... and that is fine with me.

and finally, social conditioning is actually a pretty good thing... of course, there is "good" and "bad" conditioning... yet, the lack of any social conditioning (ferrel children) isn't a desirable state of existence... for the individual or the society

Feral children are children who have lived isolated from human contact starting from a very young age. Their separation from society may be the result of being lost, abandoned, or even taken away by animals. Sometimes abandonment is apparently due to parents rejecting a child's severe intellectual impairment or physical disability. Some feral children experience child abuse or trauma before being abandoned.
There are reports of such children living with or being reared by wild animals. Legend and fiction also suggest that wolves, bears, or other normally hostile animals often adopt feral children as one of their own. Science, however, has found very few such cases to study.

http://www.webster-dictionary.org/defin ... 20children

http://www.connect.ab.ca/~mctsoul/playpen.htm

just an opinion... next year's theme "who cares"

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Post by mars » Tue Sep 21, 2004 8:36 am

Through the Eyes of a Child
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Post by geekster » Tue Sep 21, 2004 8:39 am

oooohhhh, I LIKE the eyes of a child ... maybe a related one ...

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Post by DangerMouse » Tue Sep 21, 2004 11:40 am

Uh, I imagine that someone would kill the person who shows up w/the giant vacuum cleaner that makes little popping noises and throws colored balls into the air inside a plastic dome.

Then again, where can I get a gigantic yellow dump truck at? ;)

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Post by Simply Joel » Tue Sep 21, 2004 11:46 am

DangerMouse wrote:Uh, I imagine that someone would kill the person who shows up w/the giant vacuum cleaner that makes little popping noises and throws colored balls into the air inside a plastic dome.

Then again, where can I get a gigantic yellow dump truck at? ;)
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Rumor: "Dreams and the Subconscious"

Post by zoeyburn » Thu Sep 23, 2004 10:40 am

Heard this from someone who heard it from someone:
"Dreams and the Subconscious."
Heard it from the author of "This Is Burning Man" at a reading he did
at Powell's
Books in Portland a couple nights ago.
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