tatonka wrote:Sandstorm sling some of the poo back , this place will let you hollar out . Sometimes it just teaseing , so dont let it get you down . You feel whatever you want to feel about stuff , dont let any words mess with ya. Let your skin become thick like the leather skin of a burner ")
: This year I unexpectedly became a frequent poster over in the FB BM group. That experience truly elevated my SNARK GAME. That said, I'm just not a poo slinger. I'm a lover not a fighter.
Eric wrote:I will try to be clear as possible, but everyone reads through their own filters (ie: me with Sandstorms mention of the airport)
(note: the tl;dr version is highlighted in the first paragraph)...
: Great post. I actually agree with everything your wrote.
The only issue that I have about the place where you and I crossed paths in recent days is that whether or not you intended to you lumped me with a mob to which I don't belong and to which I've never belonged. As much as I like your above quoted post you still haven't addressed the fact that the other day you lumped me in with the US VS. THEM crowd. I'm not trying to hammer you for that fact; I just want to point out the fact that if you don't see that you mistakenly lumped me in with said mob you're going to do the same thing to someone else down the line. I'm a big boy, I can handle snark and jabs. Sometimes people write stupid sh*t in here about something I wrote and I just ignore what they wrote. I don't feel a need to respond to every negative remark that someone sends my way. That said, when someone questions my values or motivations or incorrectly assigns behavioral patterns or POVs to me that's when I speak up for myself.
The simplest thing that I can say about my take on what you wrote about me the other day is as follows. Imagine that you and I are in a bar and we're hanging out with a group of people who are all there for a specific type of gathering. At some point during the evening I say something to someone and you take issue with what I said. Rather than addressing me directly about what I said you instead turn to the other people in the group and say "Can you believe that guy Sandstorm? He's just like those other irrational people I don't like." As you say that I'm standing a foot to your left and feeling a bit taken back and dumbfounded by your remarks and behavior.
I get that this is the Internet and I get that this a Burner hangout. However, I'm old, old fashioned and emotionally healthy enough to think that etiquette is a good thing in both the real world and online. You are 100% entitled to your opinions. I don't need them to be the same as mine. I just think that it's lame when people intentionally or unintentionally act as though there's not a human being with feelings and an intellect on the other side of a username. Separately, you're a mod and when you very publicly label someone such as me as being a perpetually dissatisfied whiner it sets a poor example for this board.
As for my take on Larry & Co.'s lesser behavioral patterns vargaso
summed them up perfectly in his below quoted post.
vargaso wrote:...My concern is that the focus of the BMORG seems to be moving from the burn to whatever it is the Burning Man Project is doing. And that the culture of the Burning Man Project is very different than what I consider the culture of Burning Man. And that that will bleed over into decisions about the desert burn itself, as I believe it did with the commodification camps. So, while the goings on at Fly Ranch may not be officially related to the burn, I think it's indicative of where Burning Man decision makers are turning towards. And I think others share this concern.
I don't see demons and disasters in every corner of THE BORG. What I do see is a severely dysfunctional organization that has a recent track record of major mistakes and a reputation for fostering hostile and draining work environments. I see the leaders of that organization deciding that the BMP now needs to become Evangelicals for BURNING MAN CULTURE. Here's the thing: Those same leaders have a track record of: pissing and sh*tting on ticket buyers, volunteers and artists; peddling access to BM tickets and influence with people within the BM power structure; running their Public Relations in a manner that is incompetent at best.
I'm not looking to physically assault Larry & Co. or the ComCamps. I'm not looking to tell anyone how to burn. I simply no longer have any ability or willingness to trust Larry & Co. Full stop. End of story. There's no pitchforks or torches or Molotov Cocktails or sniper rifles hiding out in my Playa Infrastructure. There's also ZERO trust in my heart or mind for Larry & Co. I have endless respect for the folks who build, maintain and break down BRC and I have endless respect for those who fill BRC with creative content. I just have no trust or faith in Larry & Co. The End. That's actually a VERY simple and adult way of looking at this situation.
I'm a nobody in the Burner community. I'm also someone with a long history of putting on live events and doing audio-visual work. Up until a couple of years ago I thought that I'd join THE BORG or one of the big art crews. Larry & Co could give a f*ck if I stopped going to BM. The thing is that there are a lot of other Burners who, like me, are very maturely saying "WTF?" about Larry & Co.'s lesser behavioral patterns. Those burners are people who are talented and totally attuned with the 10 Principles. I think that it's very telling that those people are saying "No mas" or "Uno mas" about their relationship with BM. I know for a fact that the blow back about the ComCamp Controversy has deeply shaken people within THE BORG. I was told that by a Regional Rep and that person has repeatedly told me about the dysfunctional nature of THE BORG. I'm not some tinfoil hat wearing dude sitting in his basement writing baseless screeds about Larry & Co . In recent months I've had many people reach out to me to say that they share my POV about Larry & Co. Many of those same people have told me about the disillusionment with the event due to their lesser interactions with THE BORG. Those people tend to have been Burners for twice as long as I have.
The bottom line for me is that I've reached a new stage in my relationship with BM and with Larry & Co.. As I said in my previous post in this thread:
"Not my monkeys, not my circus."
If I go back to BRC next year I'll probably have a REALLY GREAT TIME because the ComCamp Controversy has burnt out the Evangelical passion that I had for event. If I go next year it will be just for THE FUN OF IT ALL!!! It's way easier to have fun when you don't believe in the uppermost people who are (meant to be) running the event.
In a weird way I'm thankful for the fact that ComCamp Controversy has burned out my zeal for Burning Man. My passion for the event was in some ways burdensome to me even as the event itself was life affirming and changing. I truly believe that in the future I'll find ways to bring the Burner spirit and ethos to various corners of the default world and I don't need to keep going to BM to be able to do so.