Segways in Burning Man

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Segways at Burning Man?

Let them be
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Let them be
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Fuck the segways
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Fuck the segways
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Segways in Burning Man

Postby ethaniel » Mon Nov 20, 2017 7:07 am

Frankly, I feel uncomfortable around people who bring segways to Burning Man. It's such a stupid display of wealth.
Poor or rich, aren't we supposed to unite in the dust for at least a week in a year leaving all social differences behind?
It feels as if we're a zoo (or a show) that they fly in to enjoy without actually preparing to or participating in.
Get on the bike or just walk, interact with other people! Don't just roam around and look at everyone from above your soulless segway.

Turnkey camps, google/facebook/other "fuckyourstartup" employees that order air deliveries of fresh oysters, I get it, we can't exclude the rich people. Let them stay in their walled-off camps in the outskirts of the K-line. But when they get out of there, they need to blend in. Otherwise it just spoils the fun for the rest of us.

Probably my envy talking right now. But whatever.

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Re: Segways in Burning Man

Postby Token » Mon Nov 20, 2017 10:42 am

How exactly are people on Segues interfering with your experience?

You get run over?

Your last paragraph pretty much sums up the real answer and should have been the third option in your survey:

Egalitarian envy.

In the grand scheme of things, the smelly loud stand-up gas scooters are way more annoying and cannot really stick to the speed limit. Now those are a good target for your ire.

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Re: Segways in Burning Man

Postby TT120 » Mon Nov 20, 2017 11:31 am

I don't really care one way or the other. If I could afford one, I sure as hell wouldn't take it to Burning Man. Shit gets fucked up out there.
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Re: Segways in Burning Man

Postby AntiM » Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:01 pm

I like seeing some of the more radically decorated Segways. They're fun. I've only seen one person being terrible, a clueless girl all in silver sparkles and feathers, who rode right through the DPW parade. I'm surprised they didn't eat her heart.

Personally, if I could afford one, and one which I wouldn't mind getting fucked up by the dust, I'd have one. I can't walk far or ride a two wheeled bike. The trike is okay, but usually I depend on MyLarry to move me around with the rhoadescar. A Segway would mean freedom to me. Meh, I can't even afford an electric trike.

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Re: Segways in Burning Man

Postby torrey.smith » Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:12 pm

Just sayin'.

I saw I guy on one of these in 2016 and had the following thought processes:

1) Wow!
2) F*** that entitled bastard
3) But damn that's cool and silent and he's actually riding it, with all the risk that entails.
4) I'm getting one!

So I got one, took it to Juplaya and it rocked. Took it to BM17 and it rocked. It's practically replaced my car back home.

One final thing: F*** those gas scooters. They're just stupid.

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Re: Segways in Burning Man

Postby Captain Goddammit » Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:35 pm

You probably don’t wanna know what it costs to bring a decent Mutant Vehicle.
Segways are cheap.
Burning Man on the whole isn’t cheap. It’s a damn expensive party.
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Re: Segways in Burning Man

Postby Sham » Mon Nov 20, 2017 4:48 pm

A camp mate brought a low Segway. I borrowed it a few times and it was a blast. It took just a few minutes to master.
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Re: Segways in Burning Man

Postby BBadger » Tue Nov 21, 2017 2:53 am

As echoed above, I'd rather have those Segways than those noisy, motorized scooters. I'd also rather have them than those bikes that are abandoned without lights in the middle of the playa; I assume people would take care of their $3000 ride better than that $30 bike.
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Re: Segways in Burning Man

Postby Captain Goddammit » Tue Nov 21, 2017 10:52 am

Those things actually cost about twice that!
But compared to the huge sound camps, big art, RV rental, etc. that’s nothing
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Re: Segways in Burning Man

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Re: Segways in Burning Man

Postby BBadger » Wed Nov 22, 2017 1:22 am

Ouch! I don't know where I got that figure. Maybe that was 10-15 years ago or something. Rather just stick with a bike and not ruin something that costs that much.
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Re: Segways in Burning Man

Postby Popeye » Wed Nov 22, 2017 4:20 am

Looks like there are new models out, from about $500.00 to $1500.00
https://www.google.com/search?q=buy+segway

Of course it is probably a lithium battery and you can't get it on a plane.
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Re: Segways in Burning Man

Postby AntiM » Wed Nov 22, 2017 5:00 am

Segway minis are under $1K, the beefed up off road models run closer to $7k.
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Re: Segways in Burning Man

Postby some seeing eye » Wed Nov 22, 2017 2:01 pm

Burning Man is all about ostentatious display of identity.

Burners have a choice. Display identity by face to face participation/interaction/building/making art, a costume they made, a costume crafted by a single person business - etsy/local burner?

Or display identity by a machine they rented?

I am strongly, strongly, strongly against body guards on the playa. It is not what the event is for. If you think you need body guards, maybe you need to be totally anonymous, including all social media?

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Yes: walking, bicycles, stilts, licensed MV, licensed alterabled, battery-powered tricycles as many wheels as you want.

No: as many wheels as you want standing carbon combustion powered vehicle not MV licensed - eliminate the standing powered exception. There is just too much energy density and propelled mass in a liquid carbon-powered vehicle outside the MV program. Liquid combustion engines easily exceed the speed limit and crashing into a burner and injuring them we don't need.

Segways - it's just a dumb thing that came out of an LA company renting them to LA peeps to show off on the playa. Show off another way.
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Re: Segways in Burning Man

Postby alt12 » Sat Nov 25, 2017 10:24 am

Segways have no impact on my experience at BM. However, you might as well stick a huge sign around your neck with the word "Douchebag" on it.

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Re: Segways in Burning Man

Postby Jackass » Sun Nov 26, 2017 2:38 am

alt12 wrote:Segways have no impact on my experience at BM. However, you might as well stick a huge sign around your neck with the word "Douchebag" on it.



I concur, douchebag is the correct nomenclature...
Sooner or later, it will get real strange...

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Re: Segways in Burning Man

Postby ethaniel » Sun Nov 26, 2017 3:54 am

Jackass wrote:
alt12 wrote:Segways have no impact on my experience at BM. However, you might as well stick a huge sign around your neck with the word "Douchebag" on it.

I concur, douchebag is the correct nomenclature...


We need a DDV - Department of Douchebag Vehicles. Which gives out an astonishing 0 permits every year.
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Re: Segways in Burning Man

Postby Sham » Sun Nov 26, 2017 4:36 am

The one that I used was more along the lines of a hoverboard, not the large, big wheeled Segway that had handles.
The feeling of standing up and moving towards various art installations was more the sensation of walking at about the speed of a slow bicycle, but not getting tired or winded.

What I found really annoying were the bicycles that had powerful electric motors on then, that were zipping around at 25 mph and kicking up clouds of dust in their wake. In my opinion, those need to be banned or regulated.

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Re: Segways in Burning Man

Postby Captain Goddammit » Sun Nov 26, 2017 6:09 am

Electric bikes are regulated but there’s no enforcement.
There’s not really much enforcement of anything except drugs.
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Re: Segways in Burning Man

Postby BBadger » Sun Nov 26, 2017 8:09 pm

Pretty much nothing, other than emergency crews, should be allowed to travel faster than 10-15mph on the playa.
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Re: Segways in Burning Man

Postby Meat Hunter » Tue Nov 28, 2017 5:02 pm

Speaking of Segways; There are more applications for Segway technology than just for up-market and able-bodied individuals to go scooting around the Playa.

At the 2015 and 2016 Burns, I had occasion to meet a very severely disabled individual who used a lever-activated battery-powered wheelchair and he was always accompanied by someone in case he ran out of battery power.

They were always checking the battery power level to make sure that they had sufficient power to return to their camp for a recharge.

I do not know the range on a battery powered wheelchair, but it must not be all that far.

This year, I saw him tooling up the 6:00 radial in a Segway powered wheelchair and without being accompanied.

Absolutely amazing what the extended range of that Segway powered wheelchair allowed him to do -- by himself.


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