Borris wrote:... but an Engineer isn't an Artist.
I'd take great engineering over la-di-dah art anyday. And I'm an artist. At the top of any form is art, and good artist recognize that.
Tristan wrote:There may be debate on what qualifies as an art vehicle, but there is no debate that un-decorated golf carts or motorized scooters are *not* art vehicles (regardless who rides them), and they should not be allowed to circulate except on the outer street of the city (maybe).
Capthayes wrote:...Trust me, the first time a 22-year-old upper-middle class kid with well connected partents gets run over the fire will go out and the party will be over....
RESPECT THE ART VEHICLES. I know it seems like a whole lotta fun to cross the path of an art car, but when someone rides or runs out in front of a moving vehicle, the natural inclination of the pilot is to slam on the brakes. This is very dangerous when you have 14 inattentive people standing on the top deck. The people who pilot my ship, and myself, have learned in the last two years to avoid our natural inclination to hit the brakes and have learned to gently turn the ship to avoid a collision, but if people keep behaving the way they have, an accident is inevitable. If I am forced to make the choice between hitting someone and having 14 people go flying from my roof I know what decision I will make. Please don't force me to make that decision.
(Possible reasons for not getting a ride on art car)
4.You jumped on with out permission, I know other art cars allow this, but Burning Man offically considers it stealing and so do I. No thieves on the ship! If you want a ride ask myself or someone else on board. We'll either tell you we're full or invite you on-board
5.You were too FUCKED UP! If I or anyone else thinks you're going to be a danger to the other guests on-board you are not welcome. The ship is not a drunk-bus. If your are i'll I will always give you a ride to the medical tent, but if your just fucked up you can get home with the same two feet that brought you to the middle of the playa.
III wrote:so if i work hard (which i do) can i drive around in an undecorated vehicle as well? i've put in thousands of hours on my village...
i'll recognize the need for emergency vehicles. i'm not sure i'm willing to count a golfcart as one of them.
Viking wrote:Regarding flat bed trucks: some of these were not being passed off as art, they got permission to drive because they were "performance art" that required transportation as part of their performance. I for one was really happy to see that The Mutaytor was creating impromptu parades early in the week with their flatbed truck mobile stages.
Chai Guy wrote:STAFF- You have to go to a meeting? Guess what? Me Too! You work really hard to put this together? Me Too! (except I also have to work another job to afford to go to the event!). You spent months and months of planning this thing? Me Too! I have to follow certain rules about art cars and you don't? Bullshit!
I know a lot of very very busy staffpeople who take the time to decorate the hell out of their golfcarts
It should be noted though, that a lot of the pick-up trucks and such that the org uses are rented for the event and not really decoratable
Chai Guy wrote:DPW- I've never worked for DPW, I'm not totally familiar with what an average day during the event it like for them. I can say that I believe I've seen a few DPW cars that would be considered bona-fide art cars. At any rate, it would seem reasonable that Burning Man LLC could afford a few permanent vehicles and only allow those vehicles to operate during the event. I could be wrong about this.
Chai Guy wrote:Any car driving around the playa and NOT flying a flag would be subjected to a loss of air pressure or the removal of some crucial mechanical part to be returned to them on Labor Day.
I dont think staff people should have to worry if a staff car is art or not ITS A FUCKING STAFF CAR they have a lot of shit to do besides putin ribbons on a golf cart
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