Looking for some answers to help get our community established for this year out on the playa. Can anyone with village experience help answer a couple of questions:
What is typically the size of a block in the outer rings i.e., 8:00 area, about 5 streets from the Esplanade?
If you've planned a village (official or not) how many families did your block accomodate?
thanks for your help!!
Villiage (mini-villiage) Questions
i'm looking forward to reading responses here.
my camp and another camp are looking to sorta merge, but retain our individual creative themes, and celebrate the duality along our shared camp borders.
probably share a bathroom and a kitchen, and a dance area.
does this constitute a village? it'd only be 2 camps. and we're hesitant to apply as one camp because we don't want to get jipped on space.
my camp and another camp are looking to sorta merge, but retain our individual creative themes, and celebrate the duality along our shared camp borders.
probably share a bathroom and a kitchen, and a dance area.
does this constitute a village? it'd only be 2 camps. and we're hesitant to apply as one camp because we don't want to get jipped on space.
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hi AlienFry
Yes... I'm looking forward to responses too, but have not received any. An "official" village registered with BM consist of 150 people, if your village is that size and you want to secure space in advance, registering as a village may be helpful.
We are an "unofficial" village, and much the same as your group (merge of friends), without the shared bath & kitchen. We are strickly autonomous (with some organization) but we will have a center lounge area to bring our neighbors together... the center lounge will be open to our mini-village for anyone who wants to host an activity, or just want to chill with neighbors.
We are mapping out camp location and camping space this will continue to change as we get closer to the event.
If you wanna exchange ideans/info send me an email: [email protected]
Cheers,
Yes... I'm looking forward to responses too, but have not received any. An "official" village registered with BM consist of 150 people, if your village is that size and you want to secure space in advance, registering as a village may be helpful.
We are an "unofficial" village, and much the same as your group (merge of friends), without the shared bath & kitchen. We are strickly autonomous (with some organization) but we will have a center lounge area to bring our neighbors together... the center lounge will be open to our mini-village for anyone who wants to host an activity, or just want to chill with neighbors.
We are mapping out camp location and camping space this will continue to change as we get closer to the event.
If you wanna exchange ideans/info send me an email: [email protected]
Cheers,
>>typically the size of a block in the outer rings
the blocks are generally 170 feet front to back. they are 600 feet wide at the esplanade, but grow around 45 feet wider for each block you go back (double that for the first one). so blocks back they'd be about 8-900 feet wide.
i would't expect to be able to get an entire block to yourself, unless you went maybe to 9:30 and one block from the back very early in the week.
as a rough guide, plan 150-200 sq ft per person, for everything.
the blocks are generally 170 feet front to back. they are 600 feet wide at the esplanade, but grow around 45 feet wider for each block you go back (double that for the first one). so blocks back they'd be about 8-900 feet wide.
i would't expect to be able to get an entire block to yourself, unless you went maybe to 9:30 and one block from the back very early in the week.
as a rough guide, plan 150-200 sq ft per person, for everything.
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Note to anyone doing a group kitchen —
Unless <b>all</b> of your campmates are of a single dietary persuasion — i.e. low carb, vegan, omnivore — strongly suggest you have your meals potluck style. We had a group kitchen for the past four years and every year, a different group would get snubbed or hijacked and last year we had so many food faddists in camp meal time was the biggest clusterfuck imaginable. So this year we decided to have multiple kitchens/single central dining area; it was a measure to cut back on the Whine Factor.
Second bit of advice: Don't make it too gaudy and locate it back in the camp. This way you don't get any mooches wandering in asking for (or stealing) food and nobody complains about the sight/smell of your compost.
Ask your campers ahead of time if they have compost heaps. If most of them don't, then forego the fresh fruit/veggies and go with pre-prepared meals like Trader Joe's sells. If you really want to cook from scratch, I believe Earth Guardians take camps' compost scraps, but don't quote me on it.
We had an enclosed utility trailer for our kitchen's pantry last year, and it was wonderful!
If you can afford it, get a truck or van for the general camp infrastructure, keep it accessible to the exit, and when it's unloaded, go down to Reno for your food/water run and use it as your pantry (cover the windows with tin foil and try to keep the van under reasonably deep shade). By week's end you'll have emptied it and can fill it up with the camp infrastructure again.
Unless <b>all</b> of your campmates are of a single dietary persuasion — i.e. low carb, vegan, omnivore — strongly suggest you have your meals potluck style. We had a group kitchen for the past four years and every year, a different group would get snubbed or hijacked and last year we had so many food faddists in camp meal time was the biggest clusterfuck imaginable. So this year we decided to have multiple kitchens/single central dining area; it was a measure to cut back on the Whine Factor.
Second bit of advice: Don't make it too gaudy and locate it back in the camp. This way you don't get any mooches wandering in asking for (or stealing) food and nobody complains about the sight/smell of your compost.
Ask your campers ahead of time if they have compost heaps. If most of them don't, then forego the fresh fruit/veggies and go with pre-prepared meals like Trader Joe's sells. If you really want to cook from scratch, I believe Earth Guardians take camps' compost scraps, but don't quote me on it.
We had an enclosed utility trailer for our kitchen's pantry last year, and it was wonderful!
If you can afford it, get a truck or van for the general camp infrastructure, keep it accessible to the exit, and when it's unloaded, go down to Reno for your food/water run and use it as your pantry (cover the windows with tin foil and try to keep the van under reasonably deep shade). By week's end you'll have emptied it and can fill it up with the camp infrastructure again.[url=http://tinyurl.com/245sagf][img]http://tinyurl.com/2bbr28j/.gif[/img][/url][url=http://tinyurl.com/23753ws][img]http://tinyurl.com/2auqebj/.gif[/img][/url][url=http://tinyurl.com/m4y82q][img]http://tinyurl.com/l56rdn/.gif[/img][/url]
>>We're a cluster of small camps that want to share space, but be responsible for our supplies, just to keep it simple and sane
that's a pretty tried and true method - gigsville and solo collective (among others) follow that paradigm. ihave to say i'm rather partial to it.
the one exception to the independence thing may me your clean up plan - more people create more mess, but don't neccesarily clean up quite so well. i've found that having a staged pullout, where say 70-80% of the people clean up *everything* they see, and leave, and then 70-80% of those people left repeat the process, getting everything that didn't get caught by the first sweep, and finally the last couple of people (should be about 3-4% of the total group, usually about 2-5 people for a moderate sized camp) go over everything witha fine toothed comb. there are other possible methods as well, but they should take the "can't see stuff when there's stuff around" effect into account, and generally require a fair amount of coordination between everyone in your camp.
that's a pretty tried and true method - gigsville and solo collective (among others) follow that paradigm. ihave to say i'm rather partial to it.
the one exception to the independence thing may me your clean up plan - more people create more mess, but don't neccesarily clean up quite so well. i've found that having a staged pullout, where say 70-80% of the people clean up *everything* they see, and leave, and then 70-80% of those people left repeat the process, getting everything that didn't get caught by the first sweep, and finally the last couple of people (should be about 3-4% of the total group, usually about 2-5 people for a moderate sized camp) go over everything witha fine toothed comb. there are other possible methods as well, but they should take the "can't see stuff when there's stuff around" effect into account, and generally require a fair amount of coordination between everyone in your camp.
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Re: Villiage (mini-villiage) Questions
I camped with Solo Collective last year. We were around 6:30pm and Faith I think. We had most of a block which consisted of several mini-camps along the streets and then a big collective in the middle. From what I heard we had about 250 people. There was a bank of porta-potties on one corner (provided by BurningMan) and the Collective rented a generator which was paid for by voluntary donations collected before the event via Paypal and such.Livka wrote:Looking for some answers to help get our community established for this year out on the playa. Can anyone with village experience help answer a couple of questions:
What is typically the size of a block in the outer rings i.e., 8:00 area, about 5 streets from the Esplanade?
If you've planned a village (official or not) how many families did your block accomodate?
thanks for your help!!
I think Solo Collective was one of the larger theme camps there from what I saw. There is a Yahoo group and some of the organizers or others who know more than I do may be on Eplaya too. Check around, and good luck.
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